Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Could some one point me towards a cline server site for card sharing for dreambox 500s?
Thanks.

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check youre pm

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Hi Jackoooh

I took your advice and got a c line from the site you suggested I installed it on the dreambox and it was working well initially however tonight the signal is freezing at regular intervals making it difficult to watch any program. I have mailed the supplier and I'm waiting a reply but just wondering if you know what might be causing it as I have second box working off a local c line and it works fine while the other freezes so that rules out the broadband and telecom?

Thanks for your time.

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Could some one point me towards a cline server site for card sharing for dreambox 500s?
Thanks.

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check youre pm

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Hi Jackoooh

I took your advice and got a c line from the site you suggested I installed it on the dreambox and it was working well initially however tonight the signal is freezing at regular intervals making it difficult to watch any program. I have mailed the supplier and I'm waiting a reply but just wondering if you know what might be causing it as I have second box working off a local c line and it works fine while the other freezes so that rules out the broadband and telecom?

Thanks for your time.

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4 pod I have exactly the same problem since yesterday i also contacted them and more or less they told me that i was the only one in ireland complaining as they have many customers
in ireland i am happy that you also have complained,i suppose we wait and see what happens

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Could some one point me towards a cline server site for card sharing for dreambox 500s?
Thanks.

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check youre pm

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Hi Jackoooh

I took your advice and got a c line from the site you suggested I installed it on the dreambox and it was working well initially however tonight the signal is freezing at regular intervals making it difficult to watch any program. I have mailed the supplier and I'm waiting a reply but just wondering if you know what might be causing it as I have second box working off a local c line and it works fine while the other freezes so that rules out the broadband and telecom?

Thanks for your time.

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4 pod I have exactly the same problem since yesterday i also contacted them and more or less they told me that i was the only one in ireland complaining as they have many customers
in ireland i am happy that you also have complained,i suppose we wait and see what happens

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Thats interesting I wonder what reply I will get. I'll let you know.
How long have you been a customer and is this the first time you have had an issue with the service. My other box has a c line from a source in Cork but the telecom exchange in Carragaline is causing problems for the last few weeks with loss of signal for several minutes so this is why I'm testing this site as a provider.

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Could some one point me towards a cline server site for card sharing for dreambox 500s?
Thanks.

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check youre pm

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Hi Jackoooh

I took your advice and got a c line from the site you suggested I installed it on the dreambox and it was working well initially however tonight the signal is freezing at regular intervals making it difficult to watch any program. I have mailed the supplier and I'm waiting a reply but just wondering if you know what might be causing it as I have second box working off a local c line and it works fine while the other freezes so that rules out the broadband and telecom?

Thanks for your time.

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4 pod I have exactly the same problem since yesterday i also contacted them and more or less they told me that i was the only one in ireland complaining as they have many customers
in ireland i am happy that you also have complained,i suppose we wait and see what happens

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Thats interesting I wonder what reply I will get. I'll let you know.
How long have you been a customer and is this the first time you have had an issue with the service. My other box has a c line from a source in Cork but the telecom exchange in Carragaline is causing problems for the last few weeks with loss of signal for several minutes so this is why I'm testing this site as a provider.

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i have just joined recently on a friends recomendation,i am using homeplugs cause my box is away from the router,so i setup the box beside the router this morning connecteted the cable directly to the router results are much better glitching rather than freezing still annoying though,dont know my mates provider but it must be better than mine(eircon) it is a pain though

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Could some one point me towards a cline server site for card sharing for dreambox 500s?
Thanks.

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check youre pm

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Hi Jackoooh

I took your advice and got a c line from the site you suggested I installed it on the dreambox and it was working well initially however tonight the signal is freezing at regular intervals making it difficult to watch any program. I have mailed the supplier and I'm waiting a reply but just wondering if you know what might be causing it as I have second box working off a local c line and it works fine while the other freezes so that rules out the broadband and telecom?

Thanks for your time.

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4 pod I have exactly the same problem since yesterday i also contacted them and more or less they told me that i was the only one in ireland complaining as they have many customers
in ireland i am happy that you also have complained,i suppose we wait and see what happens

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Thats interesting I wonder what reply I will get. I'll let you know.
How long have you been a customer and is this the first time you have had an issue with the service. My other box has a c line from a source in Cork but the telecom exchange in Carragaline is causing problems for the last few weeks with loss of signal for several minutes so this is why I'm testing this site as a provider.

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i have just joined recently on a friends recomendation,i am using homeplugs cause my box is away from the router,so i setup the box beside the router this morning connecteted the cable directly to the router results are much better glitching rather than freezing still annoying though,dont know my mates provider but it must be better than mine(eircon) it is a pain though

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Mine is not freezing much this morning watched it for an hour. I'm using a netgear print server to connect to the router in the next room. Will monitor it over the next few days see how it behaves. No reply from the supplier yet. I know eircom are working on the exchange so it that is resolved I'll go back to thats c line source as my buddy is giving it to me for free.

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Just sent another mail to them it might rattle the cage a little, we'll see what happens.

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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I know don't expect much.
Actually its quiet good tonight, best yet, is yours still crappy?

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Who is your ISP I'm with smart 4mb but planning to change to Imagine Wimax when available.

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Who is your ISP I'm with smart 4mb but planning to change to Imagine Wimax when available.

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Originally posted by hooter007:

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Originally posted by 4POD:

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Who is your ISP I'm with smart 4mb but planning to change to Imagine Wimax when available.

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bad idea
always stick with "hard wired connection" if going down the c's route

**EDIT**
Imagine Breeze is good, dear but good "2mb down" "2mg up"
Never had a bad complaint when with them, with 2 laptops, 2 dodgy boxes, & son on ps.3 all going 24/7
he always hosted the games he was playing cos he never got laggin

have a look at homevision €30 for fone line and broadband (not 100% sure if there hard-wired though)
also there content ratio is very low, well it was when i was going with them 12 months ago

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Originally posted by hooter007:

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i was never with homevision
but they were an option i was considering, as the price was great at the time
€28 for fone or €29 for 2mb + 256k broadband & fone, there "contention ratio" is 1-1
also limited to a few ares their service is, you do need a fone line to switch to them
that all sounds good for the right person
but some have had "bad" experience with them
although you have a 30day opt out you still need to cancel your provider your with ie:eircom ect..

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Originally posted by rooney123:

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Originally posted by hooter007:

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i was never with homevision
but they were an option i was considering, as the price was great at the time
€28 for fone or €29 for 2mb + 256k broadband & fone, there "contention ratio" is 1-1
also limited to a few ares their service is, you do need a fone line to switch to them
that all sounds good for the right person
but some have had "bad" experience with them
although you have a 30day opt out you still need to cancel your provider your with ie:eircom ect..

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Cool thanks..I got on to eircom they gave next gen broadband wit speed to to 8mb for same price so that will do me..Thanks for the reply

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Originally posted by fintannl:

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to be honest 56kbyte dial-up internet is probably the best solution of all for sharing. the issue is not broadband speed. the issue is latency on the broadband connection. there is virtually no latency on a circuit switched dial-up connection as compared to modern packet switched networks. those who have experienced dial-up would think this as a slightly unusual viewpoint as internet is so slow on dial-up. this is only because of the limited bandwidth available to supply web pages on dial-up. 1mb, 30mb, 100mb networks are really not the issue. the number of packets transferred are in bytes, not kilobytes or megaybtes. latency is the problem

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Originally posted by fintannl:

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i miss the point. what i tried to emphasise is that within a circuit switched data network you have an end to end connection with the peer. with a packet switched data network you are at the mercy of the various protocols (RIP, BGP, OSPF) as to how data is transmitted and in what fashion. So, for example, if you were talking to a person in Germany on a circuit switched connection you would not notice latency, if you were talking to someone in australia you would seriously understand latency. so thats circuit switched covered. On data networks latency is always about the weakest link (and that is the huge difference between circuit switched and packet switched networks). anyways to simply not bore people too much all i will say is that a 1mb connection can be as good as a 100mb connection. it all depends on how the data network is set up. personally i have a 1 mb and that is just working fine. but that is because i pay for a quality 1mb solution. you can have a 100mb solution that will not be able to match it. and the crucial point is related to the service required. if you need reduced latency then you go for one solution, if you want high bandwidth for downloading huge files you go for another solution. always keep in mind what you most need

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Originally posted by jackoooh:

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Originally posted by fintannl:

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to be honest 56kbyte dial-up internet is probably the best solution of all for sharing. the issue is not broadband speed. the issue is latency on the broadband connection. there is virtually no latency on a circuit switched dial-up connection as compared to modern packet switched networks. those who have experienced dial-up would think this as a slightly unusual viewpoint as internet is so slow on dial-up. this is only because of the limited bandwidth available to supply web pages on dial-up. 1mb, 30mb, 100mb networks are really not the issue. the number of packets transferred are in bytes, not kilobytes or megaybtes. latency is the problem

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(Not my work)

Latency vs. Bandwidth
Although the theoretical peak bandwidth of a network connection is fixed according to the technology used, the actual bandwidth you will obtain varies over time and is affected by high latencies. Excessive latency creates bottlenecks that prevent data from filling the network pipe, thus decreasing effective bandwidth. The impact of latency on network bandwidth can be temporary (lasting a few seconds) or persistent (constant) depending on the source of the delays.
Latency of Satellite Internet Service
Satellite Internet service illustrates the difference between latency and bandwidth on computer networks. Satellite Internet connections possess both high bandwidth and high latency. When loading a Web page, for example, most satellite users can observe a noticeable delay from the time they enter a Web address to the time the page begins loading. This high latency is due primarily to propagation delay as the request message travels at the speed of light to the distant satellite station and back to the home network. Once the messages arrive on Earth, however, the page loads quickly like on other high-bandwidth Internet connections (DSL or cable).

Besides propagation delays, latency also may also involve transmission delays (properties of the physical medium) and processing delays (such as passing through proxy servers or making network hops on the Internet).
Measuring Network Latency
Network tools like ping tests and traceroute measure latency by determining the time it takes a given network packet to travel from source to destination and back, the so-called round-trip time. Round-trip time is not the only way to specify latency, but it is the most common.

On DSL or cable Internet connections, latencies of less than 100 milliseconds (ms) are typical and less than 25 ms desired. Satellite Internet connections, on the other hand, average 500 ms or higher latency.
Summary
Two key elements of network performance are bandwidth and latency. The average person is more familiar with the concept of bandwidth as that is the one advertised by manufacturers of network equipment. However, latency matters equally to the end user experience as the behavior of satellite Internet connections illustrates. Businesses use the term Quality of Service (QoS) to refer to measuring and maintaining consistent performance on a network by managing both bandwidth and latency in a coordinated fashion.

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