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DVD Shrink without NERO
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Mayaboy
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29. September 2004 @ 04:52 |
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I followed the directions on afterdawn.com for using DVD-Shrink to copy my DVD, but these instructions assume I have Nero as my burning software. I don't, I have Sonic.
The directions say I have three options for saving my compressed DVD files - 1) Burn with Nero 2) Create disk image 3) Save files to HD. But in fact, if you don't have Nero, the only option is to save the files to the HD.
Now, I'm left with a Video_TS and Audio_TS folder on my HD and I don't know what to do with these. Can I burn them on a DVD as if they were data? I wouldn't think this would be properly formatted for playing in a real DVD player. Any why can't DVD-Shrink make its own disk image without Nero?
Or, I could just get Nero. Is there a version of Nero that I can get for less than the hefty pricetag of $99? Is there a "Nero-Lite" for 19.99 somewhere that would work with DVD-Shrink?
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29. September 2004 @ 12:13 |
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No.1 you can get Nero ultra 6 for about 59.00 or download it each and every month for the full month for free as long as you want. forget Nero lite. Sometimes Nero has rebates giving you ultra 6 for 30.00.
No.-2 you can use DVDdecrypter to burn and it's free. Uncheck enable burn with Nero and check use decrypter with ISO files in the target window after hitting backup.
Make sure you're using shrink 3.2
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ScubaPete
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29. September 2004 @ 13:33 |
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Mayaboy,
Welcome to aD -
Follow these directions to the letter (print them out to follow) and you'll be on your way -
Of course the main thing is to download the programs before you can think of doing anything :)
Program # 1.
(Get your DVD Decrypter?s newest version here - )
http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
Program # 2.
(Get your DVD Shrink?s newest version here - )
http://www.dvdshrink.org/
Now that we've done that ?
Get yourself nice and relaxed and follow this here, it's a step by step ? and this baby can?t fail, kweeler than a snowball down the back of your pants (Weeeee, :)
First create a folder for your HD backup work. Try to put it someplace where you won?t forget it (i.e. C:\All My DVD Work\The last New York Samurai sings Sittin' by the Dock by the Bay).
Next, lets get DVD Decrypter setup so it can burn in the background after DVD Shrink has done its thing ? Ya ready ?? Yea, I knew you were :) Right-o, open up DVD Decrypter and under mode select ?ISO, Write?. Un-tick the box that says ?verify?. Where it says ?source?, you?ll leave that blank as DVD Decrypter will find the location of your backed up DVD file automatically. Lastly, where it says ?Destination?, select the drive where your burner resides. Feel free to close DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink will open it when it needs it. (Yee I'm tired already ? this is truly a lot of work (Lol))
Next, open DVD Shrink, you have the latest version of DVD Shrink so click ?Edit?, then click ?Preferences? on this page we?re going to select ?DVD Target Size? as custom and set the size no higher than 4300MB ? If your blank discs aren't the best, drop your size to around 4260MB. We do this to make extremely sure that our disc isn?t too large. Then under the ?File I/O? tab "un-tick ?Enable burning with Nero? then click ?OK?.
Place your original DVD in your DVD-ROM drive and a DVD blank in your burner?s drive. If you have only a single drive, begin by placing your original in the drive first - When it necessary to put your blank in, you will be prompted to do so. DO USE RiData, Sony, TDK, Ritek G04, Verbatim DataLife, Verbatim DataLife Plus, media boasting ?Advanced Metal AZO", Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi are excellent bets. Other media could very well cause errors, only the very best media should be used for DVD Video backups. Now is defiantly not the time to put your, "Boy did I save money buying this crappy cheap stuff." in - )
Because DVD Shrink is so easy we're going to let it do a complete backup. That means we're going to copy the entire DVD. Everything is already set so that all we have to do is click the "Backup" button.
Now, take just a second and under ?Target Device? go to ?Select backup target? once there, select ?ISO Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter" Finally, where it says ?Select target image file?, browse till you find your created folder for your backup and click ?Save?. Now, under "Quality Settings, "tick" "Compress video with high quality adaptive error compensation" there you may adjust quality enhancements. Practicing with the settings can produce even better end products. For a no-frills DVD's like "There's something about Mary" I like Extra Smooth BUT for DVD's with a lot of special effects, I use the Extra Sharp setting. That's for me, you'll have to decide what you like :) If all the boxes are "grayed out" that's OK, it means your DVD is small enough that little will be lost from the original. That?s it ! Click ?OK? and DVD Shrink burns that ISO image to your HD. It then opens DVD Decrypter and has it burn the ISO image to your waiting blank DVD.
Don?t use your PC for anything at all while it?s working. -
I'M NOT KIDDING ! STAND BACK FROM THE COMPUTER !
* There have been issues where playing your DVD on your burner opposed to your DVD ROM may result in errors during processing :-(
When you need a guide with a personality, shop ScubaPete :P)
Pete
Hurry back, we'll be a-waiting for a full report -
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. September 2004 @ 18:02
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Mayaboy
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29. September 2004 @ 14:53 |
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Thanks to both of you. It turns out my main problem was that I didn't have DVD-Shrink version 3.2. Older versions worked only with Nero. Now that I've upgraded to 3.2, I can work with DVD-Decrypter. Great summary, btw. really helpful for all who might read it.
thanks
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bizzle93
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29. September 2004 @ 15:17 |
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"* There have been issues where playing your DVD on your burner opposed to your DVD ROM may result in errors during processing :-( "
Just wondering, what do you mean by this?
AMD Athlon 64 xp 3000
Soyo Dragon MB
80 gig HD
250 gig HD
512 ultra Ram 3200
Lite-on 1633 (switched from sohw 812)
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ScubaPete
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29. September 2004 @ 17:50 |
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Hi there bizzle93, Welcome to aD,
Quote:
There have been issues where playing your DVD on your burner opposed to your DVD ROM may result in errors during processing :-( "
Just wondering, what do you mean by this?
The explanation was pretty simple really, a DVD ROM is designed to read and only to read and can do so quickly and easily and without effort. A DVD R/W must start and stop many, many times over while reading which it wasn't designed to do as well as a DVD ROM. On occasion, there have been reports of files only partially being picked up thus resulting in excessive read errors when being read by DVD R/W drives. The majorities of these reports came from the DVD XCopy Forum and were handled by Ireland who, if memory serves correctly, was the one who made the initial recommendation about reading from a DVD ROM whenever possible. Much more importantly, the constant starting and stopping that reading entails can cause overheating and premature failure of the DVD R/W drive itself. Therefore it is heartily recommended that you read from a DVD ROM whenever possible.
I hope that helps,
Pete
de ScubaPete's reason ~>
Using your DVD-ROM to rip from is easy and timesaving and lazy (de ScubaPete doesn't have to put down his beer to change discs). You place the original in your DVD-ROM and your blank disc in your burner and you don't have to touch anything until your backup is finished :D) (and my beer is saftly in my grasp :-P)
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. September 2004 @ 18:10
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adw
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30. September 2004 @ 02:19 |
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just follow scuba and u will b sweet he does all right by me with his help in the past
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30. September 2004 @ 04:47 |
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bizzle, in addition to pete's excellent explanation i would like to add always read with your DVD ROM drive when possible because it will add life to your burner which was made to write. :)
GO VOLS !
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geddylee1
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30. September 2004 @ 09:24 |
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after using shrink if all else fails... burnatonce is free and recognizes VOB . vid /ts etc... files too.. get burnatonce and choose dvd video and add folder of VOB files and your going. i just started using Nero and am pretty happy but anyone who can't figure it out can use burnatonce. it's free. for dvd to dvd i swear by DVD Shrink .(an older one) and burnatonce. both free and real simple. for VCD i now swear by Nero to do it all. before that i used tmpge and record now max that came with my vaio pc but you can get record now max elsewhere under a similar name but i forget the name.or actually i think that is the new name. it used to be record now dx. one thing i still can't do though is dvd VOB files to VCD. but since i do dvd to dvd and AVI to VCD it really doesn't matter.
rob
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ade_95
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30. September 2004 @ 13:04 |
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dvd shrink 3.2 is better than all the older versions because it has more compression options cant wait 4 them 2 make an upgrade 2 DVD Shrink :0
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30. September 2004 @ 14:28 |
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ade_95,
cant wait 4 them 2 make an upgrade 2 DVD Shrink :0
you might be waiting awhile as Mr. Shrink has said this will be the last version of shrink. He has since gone on to work for someone in the business, or so I've been told. :)
GO VOLS !
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ade_95
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30. September 2004 @ 14:44 |
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bigorange is it true wot u herd or do u think he will make another version?
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30. September 2004 @ 14:48 |
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Unfortunately, I got this from someone very close to Mr. Shrink and I'm afraid it's true. But, hey, ya never know, people have said "never again" before and came back so we'll see. :)
GO VOLS !
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ade_95
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30. September 2004 @ 15:45 |
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yes only time will tell ;)
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ScubaPete
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30. September 2004 @ 16:27 |
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ade_95,
Would please make an effort to post in English ?
It will be appreciated by all -
Thanks,
Pete
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jdhartmjm
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30. September 2004 @ 17:42 |
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bizzle93,
Listen to ScubaPete and READ all of the instructions carefully. After using DVD X Copy and making many good discs and a LOT of coasters, I downloaded DVD Decrypter nad DVD Shrink.... Hallelujah my brothers, I am free from the binds of a program that doesn't let me decide on what to keep or throw away. I am a reborn DVD burner. Thanks to all of the knowledgeable that post here, I am in your debt. And yes, we should all try to post in English.
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ade_95
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1. October 2004 @ 03:34 |
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where havent i typed in english???? i just use text language. so far pete ur the only 1 2 complain about it
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bruwery
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1. October 2004 @ 04:42 |
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ade_95
I agree with Scooby. wut is "text language" it is hard 2 reed wut u rite
Relax, don't worry - have a homebrew.
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ScubaPete
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1. October 2004 @ 19:55 |
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ade_95,
I asked politely that you please use the English language not the Solarian Gib language, Text Language OR anything else. We ask it of everyone here. Many, many "pple" here don't speak or write English as their "Mother tongue" and "Speaking in "code is impossible for them to understand. Ask your Grandparents about the "Pig" Language spoken by the American POW's during World War II. It took the first letter of every word, placed it at the end of the word and added "ay" after it. It could be spoken rapidly and the German guards couldn't understand it so escape plans could be talked about in front of them without a problem. Try it with your "Mates" sometime. Now a days only the elderly would know it (Lol).
Anyway, the history lesson is finished, I hope you'll learn from it and consider others -
A parting note - Many members won't answer your posts as they find it too hard to read -
Cheers,
Pete
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ade_95
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2. October 2004 @ 01:46 |
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ok pete maybe my posts are a bit too hard to read so i will type in english now
ade
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2. October 2004 @ 10:37 |
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Actually, it is appreciated. :)
GO VOLS !
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asap
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2. October 2004 @ 19:54 |
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Scuba Pete,
Thanks for a great, succint, and successful rendition of how this works. I have created at least one non-coaster(worked great in my player)and just burned another, as yet unviewed. I am an absolute newbie and am grateful to have found this site.
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megamix
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3. October 2004 @ 04:19 |
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As a newbie to forums, I'm looking for advice.
Being an Englishman living on a Spanish island, I'm having trouble with an LG DVD ReWriter that I've just had installed. The shops technician installed the drive and upgraded my Nero 6 to Nero 6 Ultra Edition (v.6.3.0.0). I had downloaded a trial version of Clone DVD 2.5 and also a full version of DVD Professional. With Clone DVD the drive wouldn't even recognise an original DVD as being in the tray, but with DVD Pro (which contains DVD DeCrypter), whenever it tried to write the files to a blank disc, Nero rejects the disc as not blank?! I returned to the technician with a friend who speaks Spanish, and was told everything was correct, but Clone DVD will not work with Nero. (This I found rather strange as the info on the net says it does.) The technico suggested DVD Shrink and all would be fine.
I took his advice (the same advice as Scuba Pete's) and obtained the latest version and that of DVD Decrypter, however, when it tries to write in the latter program, I get an I/O Error. In SPTI-Microsoft mode, which was set as default, it lists the device then SCSI Status: 0x02, Interpretation: Check Condition, then CDB:followed by some numbers, Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectors:0-31, then Sense Area:followed by lots of numbers, Interpretation: Invalid address for write. Does anyone know what this means?
If I use Nero as the burning engine from DVD Shrink, I still get the same problem that Nero's Disc Information reads a blank empty disc, but when I press burn, it rejects the disc as 'not empty'. Do you think there's a problem with the drive or how it has been set up by the technician?
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Mike.
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ScubaPete
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3. October 2004 @ 17:48 |
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Hey Mike, Welcome to A/D,
It sounds like it's your media. Poor quality can do what you're experiencing :(
Even though your drive ie new it probably needs a Firmware "Flash" upgrade. Firmware is like a "tutor" for your drive telling it how and to what to burn. Mrgrs "tweek" their products all the time and gthey do it with Firmware.
As for writting to your burner, you shouldn't require an ASPI layer as Nero has one and it should now be on your PC. Here are a couple of links for straightening out your firmware -
Here's the Firmware Page:
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php
The Firmware is our burner's tutor, keeping our DVD burner "tweeked". It makes sure our burner can "speak" to as many different mfgrs of media as fast and precise as possible - We're always looking for the most recent upgrade -
To check on our firmware we'll need a little "tool" which we can get from here -
RPC-1.com/" class="korostus" target="_blank">http://flashman.RPC-1.com/
At the bottom of the page look for "What's my firmware? - Try this little tool I found," Download this tool and check out your Firmware's health (up-to-date wise). You can probably get a current upgrade there also -
Between decent discs and the above you should be fine ?
Cheers,
Pete
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ScubaPete
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3. October 2004 @ 17:58 |
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Hi there asap, welcome to aD,
Hey, I'm glad you're burning up a storm :)
Even though you just got here, consider this a welcoming in and, don't part hastily comment -
Stop on back, don't be a stranger, you're Welcome even if you don't have problems to solve -
You can just "Hang out" and read some, improve your knowledge, help others if you can spot their problem, 3 heads are better than 2 (said the Cyclops to the Ogre) Or you could hang out in the "Safety Valve," a forum for gossiping about anything and everything under the sun :)
Check de place out, you just might find a little something that'll interest you -
Me ? Hey, I'll be over there, out from under that broiling hot sun, under the "Potted" Palm, right next to the water cooler. Just chewin' the fat and waiting for the next Newbie who needs a bit "O" help - Stop by and say "Howdy" -
See ya,
Pete :P)
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