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babelfish
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13. October 2004 @ 09:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all

i recently purchased 100 of the disks mentioned here:

http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php?lang=&product_id=2034&session=47b6187440b1a3a8f14804531930ae7c

(Mitsubishi Chemicals X4 Silver DVD-R)

but when i check the disks in DVDinfoPro i get:

[code]
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID ONIDTECH
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 16
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 09
4x Speed OPC power 1C
4x Write Strategy field 1 0E 12 08 09
4x Write Strategy field 2 95 06 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 21
4x Write Strategy field 4 13 A8 87 95
4x Write Strategy field 5 99 99 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
[/code]

now, im asking are these some cheapo replacement? i seem to remember mitsubishi chemicals being pretty good from my old cd dup days... but the manufacturer on these says ONIDTECH and i havent heard of them?!?!

any ideas?

thx

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13. October 2004 @ 14:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
According to this site:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

It apperears you've been screwed. The link you provided claims tha media should have an MCC code but you recieved a load of crap Onidtech.

I'd be on the phone with them demanding to know why.



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Thread moved to appropriate forum.



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babelfish
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13. October 2004 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thx m8! i have contacted them
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14. October 2004 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could also post here to let others know what happened:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/114809

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babelfish
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14. October 2004 @ 07:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i sent them an email asking what to do and they said they could arrange some replacement riteks... even tho they are selling them on their webby still?!?!

hmmmm i have replied back saying that i want the ones they are advertising.. i wonder if they knew all along? i still dont wanna slander em until i get a second reply tho
sebbleton
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16. October 2004 @ 00:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just received 50. Same thing! Haven't dealt with these guys before, although had seen some good reviews.

Interestingly, they've now changed the Lead In Info on the website from "MC-Code" to "SKC" - still not ONIDTECH! They'd better not try and claim that they were never advertised with the Mitsubishi Lead-In Code in the first place...

Unless they can offer me something really decent, I'll be pursuing a full refund (including my return carriage costs.)

Will post back with results.
babelfish
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17. October 2004 @ 23:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i agreed to let them swap them for ritek disks... they should be swapped out today - will report back

i have bought disks from them b4 with no problems, although they often dont package stuff properly... the cd-rs i got weren't even on a spindle... just 50 lose at the bottom of the box!
babelfish
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18. October 2004 @ 01:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
got the disks...

piodata 8x dvd-r inkjet printable... unfortunately i dont have a dvd-rom in this machine (im at work) will check when i get home
babelfish
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18. October 2004 @ 04:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmmm...

just nipped home @ dinner and found the disks are:

CMC MAG. AE1 - apparently grade 4! disks! according to here: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

back on the phone again! grrrr
Siem
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18. October 2004 @ 23:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think that CMC is that bad, as stated there.
CMC makes DVDs for Memorex for example, but there was a time Verbatim was made by CMC as well. But what bigpockets is doing here, still selling these as Mitsubishi Chemicals is not fair.
babelfish
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19. October 2004 @ 00:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they will swap them out for some ritek G05 disks on wednesday :) - no extra charge! those disks are 50% more expensive than the ones i originally bought ;)
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19. October 2004 @ 09:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Persistence wins the day! :)



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19. October 2004 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just left this feedback on 'contact us' page for bigpockets.co.uk
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I have recently read on our forum ( http://www.afterdawn.com ) that you're selling discs as Mitsubishi Chemicals X4 Silver DVD-R when they are clearly not !

Item Number: DVR9064-50

I mean they are 'dirt' cheap so I'd have been sceptical myself anyway , but I have also read on that you are going to replace the user/persons DVD-Rs (good business practice)

You might want to either alter that page that has the info for that particualr media OR and I happen to think this is the best suggestion ... get rid of them full stop [and maybe let supplier know how peeved you are with them].

--Herbsman , Moderator @ aD--
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I buy media from http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk myself :-)

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19. October 2004 @ 21:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good on you herbs :)



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babelfish
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20. October 2004 @ 01:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have just received a load of traxdata 8x from them now... will test the code when i get home. the dye is a really rich & dark purple which is usually a good sign... any opinions of traxdata?

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20. October 2004 @ 07:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know Traxdata use the Ritek dye , probably G05 babelfish mate [have used Traxdata Ritek G04's a while ago & were okay] :-)

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babelfish
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20. October 2004 @ 07:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sweet.. i generally look at the dye colour to see quality... going back 10 years from writing cds n stuff
babelfish
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21. October 2004 @ 00:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yup... G05 disks... happy chappy now
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21. October 2004 @ 01:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice , glad to hear you got satisfaction (at last) !!

I've only ever purchased sale price hardware items from bigpockets , I would suggest that they not be trusted for media ... especially after this bro ; )

If I can help further , just give us a shout

babelfish
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21. October 2004 @ 01:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ITS STRANGE THO ... i have used them a few times... i know they arent the cheapest tho... but when ordering a load of cases etc they usually work out ok...

having said that the place where i usually get my ridisks from seemed to supply dodgy ones last time..

the 1st lot were 8x and you could write on the surface with a semi perm ohp pen and were ID'd as G05s - second lot were blank ID, 4x and you couldnt use the same pen... so im not sure... dodgy business indeed

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21. October 2004 @ 02:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah I hear ya babelfish , i use www.blankdiscshop.co.uk & even they once sent me a dodgy 25 pack of RiDisc X4 DVD-R (G04)

i used what i could & sent the rest back (15 of them) ... 'freepost' of course !!
they refunded the whole cost of 25 spindle though , and I've not bought RiDisc ever since

i buy the branded Ritek x4 DVD-R or Verbatim DataLifePlus x4 DVD-R w/ Taiyo Yuden dye (Verbatims come in nice pastel colours too - lol)
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22. October 2004 @ 05:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
* NOTE *

I have recieved an e-mail back from the one I sent to bigpockets.co.uk (see above) and the reply goes thus:
Quote:
Hi,

Thanks for your e-mail

We have now removed the product from our website. Our supplier still
claims these are Mitsubishi Chemicals discs, but to save any further
problems we are going to remove them and return the stock.

If anyone has these discs and would like them exchanging it will be done
free of charge by courier.


Kind Regards

Oliver Shields

Customer Service Manager

Please include this mail when replying

http://www.BigPockets.co.uk
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Have fun - HERBS

babelfish
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22. October 2004 @ 05:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
result! powah to the ppl! :D
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22. October 2004 @ 06:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hehehe

Good to see that they listened eh ? :-)

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