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Ridata G04 Quality
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kchev
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3. November 2004 @ 19:27 |
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I have 2 spindles of G04's. One of them gives power calibration errors on every disk in my NEC 1300A. The other spindle burns good but has a high KProbe spike at the beginning of disc. It spikes around 250-290. The rest of the burn is about 5. Are these discs anything to possibly worry about?
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qetuo
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3. November 2004 @ 22:36 |
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They considered to be good quality... Its not comparable with top brands such as TY, Ricoh, and MCC but they are decent media and I have found that have good combatibility overall.
Though, I had some average results in the past with my Plextor drive, but now with Pioneer they write at much lower errors...
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pieman
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4. November 2004 @ 08:59 |
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another example of inconsistancy.Yet again just cos it says ritek doesnt mean its any good.Nowadays it seems every bugger has a licence to use the ritek name/dye.Pay the money and use ty!
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kchev
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4. November 2004 @ 09:40 |
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They came from Rima so they should be real.
They are just bad quality from Ritek themselves.
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aut0psy
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4. November 2004 @ 11:12 |
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Have you checked the Media ID yet?
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kchev
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4. November 2004 @ 11:23 |
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Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 12
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 19
4x Write Strategy field 1 0A 0B 09 01
4x Write Strategy field 2 99 05 0C 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
4x Write Strategy field 4 18 A8 88 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
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4. November 2004 @ 13:26 |
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I think the G04's consistancy is starting to vary somewhat from batch. My last batch I had to burn at 2x and it was still no guarantee. I switched to Ridata dvd+r's (Ricohjpn R01) and burn them at 8x with no problems.
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kchev
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4. November 2004 @ 14:01 |
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I agree with you totally. I have tried G04's from meritline, rima, and newegg with not so good results. The best quality I had of the three were from meritline though. Looks like +R's from here on out for me for awhile.
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RicTheRed
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5. November 2004 @ 04:09 |
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kchev
Usually, there is no concern with high spikes at the early stage of the testing.
I do not have a link for you, but I've read this many times. There is reason and it is not related to the media.
So if the rest of the disk is good, then you must not worry with high early spikes.
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kchev
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5. November 2004 @ 17:55 |
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It has to be media associated because the scans looked the same on actually three different burners. I have a Sony DRU-510A, LiteOn SOHW-1613, and NEC 1300A that I tried them on to see if it was the burner or the media. I had some G04's from Meritline awhile back and they scanned fine.
I am just concerned about the discs eventually going bad from the high spike.
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12256180
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6. November 2004 @ 11:31 |
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Having similar trouble with recent spindle of Ritek tangos that I thought were the GO4s I've been using (with NO failures) for months now. Turns out this new batch are actually GO5s (8x media) relabelled because Ritek/whoever ran out of GO4s. I'm getting failure after failure (e.g. power calibration error) with the occasional semi-decent burn. Have followed Scuba Pete's guide to the letter, even to the point of reversing my own usual practice of doing Decrypter BEFORE Shrink. Have cut out Norton, Zonelabs, etc - just got a couple of decent burns using some Maxell -R that DVD Identifier tells me are (wait for it) Ritek GO4s!
Am using a Sony DWU-14 flashed (twice) to a DRU10A with the most recent 1.1a firmware running okay as of two days ago.
Am no expert & can't really comment on whether or not Ritek quality is diminishing, but I'm certain that my burner doesn't really get on with GO5s & seems perfectly happy with GO4s.
By the way: used to worry about my media when I was using DVD X Copy Xpress. I should've known, really...Stick with Shrink & Decrypter.
Am now scattershot ordering 25-packs of Ritek, Ridata & verbatim online - see what works best.
Last tip: my previous (excellent) Ritek tangos said 'Grade A Media' on them; the new failure-prone ones say 'Premium Grade Media'.
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ash010673
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8. November 2004 @ 05:34 |
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Sent from my supplier ,
Recently it has been highlighted on many forums and discussion groups that the quality of discs produced by certain manufacturers has gone down hill. Click here for some examples.
To further compound the problem, Ritek, who previously set the standards for 4x DVD-R have now started using an inferior dye in many of their discs - the Ritek M02 dye. Our customers have been buying discs assuming they where G04 and inside the pack is an inferior M02 mixed in!!
As a result many of the major brands have switched over to other dyes. The disc that has totally blown everyone away is the new Datawrite Printable 8X. This disc is manufactured for Datawrite by CMC magnetics using a Mitsubishi Dye (same dye as verbatim and TDK).
Hope this helps
ASH010673
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aut0psy
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8. November 2004 @ 05:36 |
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Wow very interesting....
Has anyone else used these Datawrite and can stand up to that statement?
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antons
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8. November 2004 @ 06:10 |
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Bought 150 printable DVD-R G04, they identified as G04... Tried about 20 disc's, from two spindles... ALL failed read testing.. ..not only spikes, failures!! I've been using the same brand, CloneDisk printable, for a long long time... buying about 1000 disk's. I've returned those disk's and will get refund's... Would any 1 recommend getting G05 instead?
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ispy
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8. November 2004 @ 12:49 |
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I went to a UK computer fair yesterday,several sellers said that Ritek GO4 -R are now MO2 Dye that are not that good.The price of the GO4 with the Dark dye has actually gone up!
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8. November 2004 @ 14:11 |
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ispy
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8. November 2004 @ 15:02 |
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Flash,
Yes I read that today it was very informative,In conclusion,with TY discs as good as they are,which ones would take the No.2 place for -R ? for burning on Pioneer 108 with 1.14 firmware.
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8. November 2004 @ 16:07 |
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With the current range of Datawrite it's difficult to chose between them. I use discs from the full range without any problems and providing they stick with the current dyes there should be no problems with any of the Datawrite media
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ricster
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9. November 2004 @ 02:44 |
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ash010673, was that ukdvdr ? I seem to recall getting something similar from them which had a link to some interesting pictures of flawed G04s. Can you supply the link ? I'm not sure I still have it but it made interesting reading.
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9. November 2004 @ 02:52 |
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ricster
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9. November 2004 @ 03:00 |
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Yep - that's it. I'm sure I tried your previous link before and it went somewhere else. Anyway, it makes very interesting reading.
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hm1
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9. November 2004 @ 03:40 |
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Hi all
yep
The ritek GO4 issue is on teh increase.
Bought some Ridata GO4's and i have to say that i have not been impressed.
Ritek are getting a wee bit drunk on they own success.
An alternative to GO4's is now underway as the G04 success is causing the G05 and 8x discs sales to slump.
So sabotaging the G04 make perfect business sense.
A real shame but nothing last forever i guess
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wick780
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9. November 2004 @ 03:51 |
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The batch of Ridata G04 I got to back up PS2 games work great. Its the only decent priced dvd-r's that I have found to work when backing up games. However I have never had a write error and have burnt at least a thousand dvds from cheap to high-class dvdrs. I prefer the cheapest brand for movies. I have yet to have any problems. I only use the Ridata for sensitive burns like game backup. I see no point in paying more when there is no problems.
Come on People, lets work together and reset planet earth!
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tubbylad
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9. November 2004 @ 05:54 |
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Few quick question's:
Who owns Datawrite/Datasafe?
Who owns dvd-recordable?
Who setup and actively has someone modding and spamming the said ^^ discs inc anything else e-net distribute on DW
p.s
ive tested the Datawrite yellow 8x TTGO2 dye and there crap 5 discs in a tub of 25 with dye imperfections
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antons
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9. November 2004 @ 06:29 |
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One Q.
Should I get G05 replacement disk's for my failing G04's
I've not found any bad G04 +R disk's - are they failing as well?
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