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Gran Turismo 4
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RemyK313
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28. February 2005 @ 21:19 |
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Here's the system.cnf file from the game :
BOOT2 = cdrom0:\SCUS_973.28;1
VER = 1.01
VMODE = NTSC
I simply popped in GT4 into my DVD drive, and opened it up with notepad.
Anyways, this now sounds deeper than just the system.cnf. I mean, I'm not exactly sure what it means. From what I gather, it boots using method boot2 (whatever that is) from layer 0 in NTSC.
This probably is something deep inside the SCUS_973.28 file. Possibly a hex call that can be removed so that the intro movie doesn't need to be played.
Or something? I don't really know, but I'm sure some of this information is relevant to someone in the know.
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N91
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28. February 2005 @ 22:11 |
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For comparison: A Metal Gear Solid 2 original DVD.
BOOT2 = cdrom0:\SLUS_201.44;1
VER = 1.01
VMODE = NTSC
Almost the same, and uses BOOT2 as well. As far as I know, MGS2 is not dual layer, so...
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1. March 2005 @ 00:22 |
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i thought mgs solid 2 substance is DVD-9?
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zayd500
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1. March 2005 @ 00:48 |
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you guys might be on the right track...
btw are there any other ps2 games that we cant make a backup copy using DVD Decrypter?
or is GT4 the first?
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iamsam43
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1. March 2005 @ 03:32 |
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Hi again, are you sure a v4 PS2 can read all kinds of dl disks (do I need a certain type or brand) or should I just get the cheapest ones? Also, are you sure it's not possible to simply compress the game so it will fit on a single layer? Is it possible for DVD Decrypter to burn to DVD-9? Also, thanks 4 the info u already gave me, as it really helped!
Thanx again!!!
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Stinky_1
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1. March 2005 @ 05:11 |
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if its as simple as the system.cnf, you just need to create a new one. And tell it to just start with the first layer and not even look at the second layer.
Even though the system.cnf may be encrypted (or something) it still only tells the game to start. Since we can get to the first screen it leads me to think that the game itself calls for the second layer. NOT the system.cnf.
It still may be as simple as opening the first layer and telling it not to play the intro. But I have trouble beleiving that the second layer is over 2 gb of one video.
Either way Ill give it a shot today.
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Stinky_1
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1. March 2005 @ 05:17 |
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iamsam:
You need to buy the most expensive DL discs you can find. Then use DVD Shrink Version 5.3. This is very important. it MUST be ver 5.3 as it is specially made to compress the GT4 data onto 1 DVD.
remember this game is about $50 new, so you dont want to spend any more than $60 on DL media to burn a copy of the game with. plus the cost of rental, and burning coasters, you can have your very own backup copy for less than $70. Remember its hit and miss with burning though, so there is a good chance you will use the whole 15 pack of DVD's. So take your time and make sure you have the correct file size.
"I dont know everything, but I'm pretty close"
Xzwer " are you mad? there is like 13 pages.." - When told to read through the post to find the answer to his question
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dbldown11
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1. March 2005 @ 05:20 |
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wouldnt this new information also help the people who are trying to flatten the image and put it on the hard drive?
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Stinky_1
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1. March 2005 @ 05:24 |
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I am going to try this today.
It was reported before that someone swapped in a copied version AFTER he had booted up and was playing. But it started calling to the second layer a few times IN GAME. he said there were so many times he had to swap the original in then swap back that it was laced with 2nd layer calls.
I am sure this is deliberate and NOT by accident.
The good news is that we are nearing the end of the PS2 life as the PS3 gets closer. So companies will NOT be doing this on purpose for this system. But it may be something we see a lot of in future consoles.
The good news........ By that time we shoudl have burners that support both PTP AND otp burning processes, and Dl media should be less than $1 per disc. So they really cant stop us, just slow us down.
"I dont know everything, but I'm pretty close"
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d70
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1. March 2005 @ 05:27 |
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You need to buy the most expensive DL discs you can find. Then use DVD Shrink Version 5.3. This is very important. it MUST be ver 5.3 as it is specially made to compress the GT4 data onto 1 DVD.
remember this game is about $50 new, so you dont want to spend any more than $60 on DL media to burn a copy of the game with. plus the cost of rental, and burning coasters, you can have your very own backup copy for less than $70. Remember its hit and miss with burning though, so there is a good chance you will use the whole 15 pack of DVD's. So take your time and make sure you have the correct file size.
good shit
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tom21014
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1. March 2005 @ 05:38 |
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the only version of DVD Shrink i could find is 3.2. can you post a link for 5.3 or was that a typo?
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milfzor
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1. March 2005 @ 05:39 |
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i find it VERY hard to believe that the intro movie is over 2gb alone....IF that is the case though....all one would have to do is dummy it to like a 1mb file and relink everything properly.....i dont think that the way the actual game is booting has anything to do with anything......mode 2 is probably referrring to how it boots (cd based or dvd based, i'd bet cd based is mode 1 in the system.cnf) since people CAN get to the safe driver screen, its OBVIOUSLY booting up, so its NOT the system.cnf....i PERSONALLY think that the game points to files in the second layer of the disc and specificically refers to the files as BEING on the second layer of the disc...and how the disc is written, it will take a VERY long time before anyone gets it all figured out......
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milfzor
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1. March 2005 @ 05:45 |
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the only version of DVD Shrink i could find is 3.2. can you post a link for 5.3 or was that a typo?
that was no typo...he was giving you a wise @$$ answer cuz you dont know how to read a thread before posting....
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dbldown11
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1. March 2005 @ 05:46 |
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The good news is that we are nearing the end of the PS2 life as the PS3 gets closer. So companies will NOT be doing this on purpose for this system. But it may be something we see a lot of in future consoles.
The good news........ By that time we shoudl have burners that support both PTP AND otp burning processes, and Dl media should be less than $1 per disc. So they really cant stop us, just slow us down.
That is if PS3 doesnt start using blu-ray discs for the new games....
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N91
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1. March 2005 @ 06:18 |
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i thought mgs solid 2 substance is DVD-9?
Wait... MGS Solid 2 Substance?
What the hell? I'm talking about Metal Gear Solid 2, I don't know why you're putting in extra "Solid"s and "Substance".
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Stinky_1
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1. March 2005 @ 06:20 |
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Im sure PS3 will use the blue ray, but it will HAVE to be backwards compatible with PS2 games as well as old DVD's. So it will be another dual laser. One red DVD and one Blue ray. I suspect the first games will be in regular dvd or dvd9 format for the first year or 2. It wont be until they really figure the system out that they will need the extra space. This is the same as what happened with PS2, the first games were all CD based, until they really needed the extra space for storage.
Now back onto GT4.
I agree the video file is NOT 2 gb. I am going to try something today. I am going to see if I can burn the first layer on one DVD and the second layer onto a second DVD, whenever the game freezes Ill simply swap the other DVD in. Maybe it will find the data on its own. This will still really SUCK for playing (swapping discs all the time) but I guess the swap magic guys already are feeling that pain!
As for the Boot2 in the system.cnf. boot2 is the command to tell it where to boot the file from. it is boot2 for ANY format of ps2 game that I have seen. In fact I think even the PS1 games say "boot2" so changing that number will only make the game not work.
I think the funner part it the mode numbers. I have seen
1.00
1.01
1.10
and a few other ones. I cant figure out what those really point to or mean. But I gurantee that the system,cnf file will NOT effect how it loads the second layer.
"I dont know everything, but I'm pretty close"
Xzwer " are you mad? there is like 13 pages.." - When told to read through the post to find the answer to his question
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RemyK313
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1. March 2005 @ 06:53 |
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the cdrom0 refers to loading the game from the DVD drive in the PS2 from layer 0 (the first layer)
And yes, MGS2 IS a DVD5. MGS2 Substance is DVD9. If you've never played and want to play it, I suggest getting the DVD5 version of it. Not only is it easier to find than substance (as Substance has been discontinued for a while, while they're still cranking out MGS2) it'll also give you less problems.
For anyone not familiar with the game, it's basically MGS2 and an assload of VR Missions. This is something that most people don't really care for.
I mean, you have to have started with the VR Missions way back in MGS1 to really enjoy these VR missions, as most of the ingame jokes relate back to MGS1 (like Genoma, and other fun VR stuff from then) Just like MGS3 has a lot of MGS2-related jokes ingame.
(From the very beginning, Snake's name is Jack, and he looks very much like Raiden. Then they cake it on you when they reveal that its just a mask. Sorry if I spoiled it for anyone, but it isn't a really big deal, this is the first couple cutscenes into the game)
Anyways, back to GT4.
Yeah, you're right, anyone who's ever tried to do a DVD rip to CD, a CD-to-DVD or a multi-game DVD will be able to tell you that the System.cnf file simply points the game to the game executable with boot options. Nothing more.
The really hot item is probably SCUS_973.28
But then again, any real game cracker (you know, the bigwigs who do the releases we love them for) has probably already figured this out, and is working on a solution right now.
I mean, these guys churn stuff out at an amazing rate. Paradox, Echelon, Kalisto, these guys are absolutely brilliant.
I'm sure if ANYONE is working on this, its them, because this is probably the biggest release to come along in a while. I mean, they already made an extractor, I'm sure that they're close to finishing.
Too bad we don't even have anyone in the know about this, huh? No one with connections to those kind of guys.
Anyways, opening up the MDS file that DVD Decrypter made of my image, I got a 5.3 billion byte ISO, is this the same size as anyone else's US ISO?
I need to know because there are just so many different sizes being reported.
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milfzor
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1. March 2005 @ 07:00 |
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thats a rather unique idea (ripping it to 2x dvd-r) let everyone know how it turns out....sounds like it MAY actually work, provided that ya make the discs properly......i'd also if i were you, put all the other system files onto both discs...as well as the .vol file that way if it calls other files for menus and such, it doesnt lock on ya....
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d70
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1. March 2005 @ 07:14 |
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from ps2ownz.com
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Today the GODS @ Paradox released a DVD9 Rip of Kessen 3, and those interested can grab this filelist.txt from it to make your own LEGAL back-up as well. To aid in doing this, Sonix has also shared this Kessen 3 Re-Builder utility used to extract, rebuild, and relink the files! Those interested can check out the official NFO file (the bottom is VERY interesting! *G*), and feel free to post all related feedback in THIS on-going Forum thread. Cheers!
i guess it's coming soon for gt4
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1. March 2005 @ 07:38 |
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Someone mentioned earlier that its something simple like opening the movie...if thats the case... www.ps2ownz.com found something like that you can extract files and put them on a disk and just watch them.
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Until there is a PROPER scene release, those interested can now view the cars and the intro to Gran Turismo 4 with this nice GT4 VOL Extractor utility by Darthi8nt (with help from Sonix). The utility will extract movies in PSS MPEG file format, and PSS Player (available in our Site Utilities section can be used to view them. Enjoy, and post all feedback in THIS on-going Forum thread!
so im thinking...extract this movie using the GT4 VOL extractor they have and place it back it on the one layer where it has the screen BEFORE it goes black when its burnt...and maybe that will get us farther until we see when the next part goes black...and go on from there?...just a wild guess
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is1111
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1. March 2005 @ 07:42 |
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hi i found a PAL version of GT4 on a torrent site and the person that upped it assures me he has this working on Ritek dual layer disc burned using pioneer 108 dual layer burner.
says he used CloneDVD 2 to burn this but as you can imagine i find this pretty hard to believe.
image is 5.27gb unpacked.
says up to now had no problems playing the game.
i almost tempted to waste another ritek disc with this method. anyone else heard of the PAL gt4 running on dual layer backup?
cheers
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milfzor
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1. March 2005 @ 08:01 |
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nope, there (at least as of now) is no working rip....whatever they say about it "working" is a bold face LIE....
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Stinky_1
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1. March 2005 @ 08:45 |
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"cdrom0" refers to the unit itself. If for some reason you had a second DVD player hooked up to the ps2 you could load a file off it by using "cdrom1", this is the same as "MC0" and "MC1". They refer to the mem slot 1 "0" and mem slot 2 "1"
It is not making refferance to a layer level.
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adamacb
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1. March 2005 @ 09:09 |
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will a external usb dvd-rom drive work with ps2?
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Stinky_1
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1. March 2005 @ 09:17 |
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I dont think you can use an external USB dvd drive for the ps2. You would need to create some sort of program that could boot up in the dvd tray to tell the ps2 how to use the usb device. Not to mention the custom drivers you would need to make.
Back to GT4 (again)
I am in the middle of extracting the 2 layers right now. I am using DVD decryptor. But I am not sure exactly how to use this program. I have never used it before. I think in the settings I set for it to split the 2 layers into 2 different folders for me. I have to wait "35" minutes for it to be done first though.
"I dont know everything, but I'm pretty close"
Xzwer " are you mad? there is like 13 pages.." - When told to read through the post to find the answer to his question
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