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coolsteef
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2. March 2005 @ 06:13 |
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already found it on the site where gt4volextracter originally came from :D
the program mentioned the site alucard and there I found it. Stinky you knew apache was able to extract Layer 1 in Iso format? I'm going to test the swap discs trick.. under the tools you have the option Extract Layer 1.. Layer 0 you can burn on the fly when you mount your ISO of the complete game I think.. I will try it at least.. when I extracted Layer 1 to ISO the LBA still was the same so there cant be an error.
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tom21014
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2. March 2005 @ 07:23 |
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gt 4 can be copied. people that have put each layer on a serarate disc report that it works with alot of swapping, proving that it is just the lack of good dl media and a weak laser in the ps2.
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2. March 2005 @ 07:49 |
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So if i was to burn it to a dual layer dvd which has more than 4.7 GB , will my ps2 be able to read the disc ???
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tom21014
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2. March 2005 @ 07:59 |
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no. because current dl media is not good enough. it is a reflectivity issue with the ps2. it cannot see the second layer on a dl disc.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 2. March 2005 @ 08:01
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2. March 2005 @ 08:04 |
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I have the original game that i bought from circuitcity.
So i wanna make a backup from the original, not a download off the internet.
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Stinky_1
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2. March 2005 @ 08:23 |
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rubzerk......Congradulations!
Coolsteef....... I cannot get apache to work on my WinXp PC. I keep getting errors with missing DLL's I downloaded these DLL's and put them in my windows folder but its still not working. SO I have no idea what you can or cannot do with it.
"I dont know everything, but I'm pretty close"
Xzwer " are you mad? there is like 13 pages.." - When told to read through the post to find the answer to his question
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dbldown11
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2. March 2005 @ 08:30 |
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stinky, you might just have to put the DLL in the path of th application... that or in the path of any of your environment variables.
Another thing is you might have to register the dll with windows.
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Stinky_1
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2. March 2005 @ 08:34 |
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I didnt try putting it in the same folder as the app, so I guess I can try that.
"I dont know everything, but I'm pretty close"
Xzwer " are you mad? there is like 13 pages.." - When told to read through the post to find the answer to his question
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phuqwepon
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2. March 2005 @ 08:37 |
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no. because current dl media is not good enough. it is a reflectivity issue with the ps2. it cannot see the second layer on a dl disc.
Absolute rubbish, my ps2 reads movies which i have copied to +R DL with no problems whatsoever.
The common difference is the DVD is recorded and the way in which the PS2 expects data to be read from media.
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coolsteef
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2. March 2005 @ 08:39 |
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well I cant get it to work with my 2 dvd's
I've swapped a couple of times but it just doesn't work. I can hear my PS2 read but it is just for 0.1s and then it stops. So people who say they have it work with swapping are lying just as much as the people who say the can backup to DL media. I'm thinking of making 2 DVDs eacht with system file and the drivers on it but only change GT4 vol file.
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RemyK313
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2. March 2005 @ 09:41 |
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Tom, please stop misinforming everyone.
Ever since your first post on this thread, you've done nothing but spread bad information.
And since most people who are new to the thread don't usually read through all of the posts, you're just helping to confuse the hell out of them.
Concerning Dual Layer Media :
No, there are NO reflectivity issues.
PS2s are able to read dual-layer discs.
Any PS2 will read any ORIGINALLY PRESSED DVD9.
V4s and on are the only ones that may or
may not have issues reading DVD+R or -R.
It's not due to reflectivity, it's due to the fact that a few years back, no one was burning DVD-R movies. Since the popularity of burning your own movies has increased over the last few years, Sony has decided to incorporate technologies which allow their systems to play DVD+-R burned movies.
Another point on something. You obviously haven't been paying attention to the much-talked about fact that GT4 is burned in PTP format, just like every other DVD9 game for PS2.
Movies aren't burned in this format, they're burned in OTP (Opposite Track Path) meaning that layer 0 (the first layer) is burned like any other DVD and that the second layer is burned in reverse. Doing this allows smooth layer switches while watching a movie.
DVD burners right now can only burn in OTP. They can't burn both layers in Parallel Track Path.
This is what stops us from just making a straight dual-layer back up of the movie.
It has nothing to do with reflectivity, simply the fact that we can't burn a straight copy of the game.
2.) No one has yet made a working copy of the game in any way that doesn't require the original. 2 people have said that they could somewhat play the game if they used the original as a boot disc, and even then they were doing some unusual swaps.
So you're wrong. On everything. So stop posting information that you know nothing about.
Geez, the only thing that you could do now that's worse is claim to have made a working DVD5 rip for yourself, and then disappear.
Well, the disappearing thing wouldn't be such a bad thing, would it?
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tom21014
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2. March 2005 @ 09:52 |
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you know where you can go mr. rude!!! since you know so much you figure it out.
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crashr025
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2. March 2005 @ 09:52 |
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Yeah Tom is definatly wrong all together RemyK313 got it right. However I have heard of one specific modchip that some people were having luck with w/ a 1 on 1 DL copy I believe it was DMS with the latest firmware (I could be wrong though) that was a shitload of pages back, I believe those people burned with Gear Mastering Pro and they actually had a supported DVD writer for it to force PTP. But it was the Modchip firmware that actually allowed them to boot it, forcing PTP and trying with any other chip wouldnt work from what i heard like back in December
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dbldown11
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2. March 2005 @ 09:53 |
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AGREED!
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coolsteef
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2. March 2005 @ 09:54 |
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I just chatted with I think the moderator of PS2NFO .. was PS2OWNZ and he told me some delightfull news... Did everybody read about the group which got Kessen 3 from DVD9 to DVD5? Well if not.. our friends at Paradox did it.. and the moderator told me Paradox is busy with Gran Turismo 4 too and it won't take very long for the release. So we'd better stop wasting our DVDs and wait for Paradox's WORKING release.
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crashr025
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2. March 2005 @ 09:54 |
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Hey i hate to say Tom but i have only been following it sense page 1 and the orginal Jap release date of Dec 28th 04 trying to work it out and you just happen to come across this forum 26 pages later and decided not to read the other pages. Read back a ways it's def not a reflective issue
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RemyK313
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2. March 2005 @ 09:58 |
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Really? Coolsteef.
I guess we'll all just have to believe you. If Paradox really, truly is working this one out, then they'll probably have it to us really soon.
This makes me excited.
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thehetfie
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2. March 2005 @ 10:02 |
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let's stop this ptp/otp discussion, ps2 can read both type of dual layer dvds. the point is dvd check, booting the game with original and swapping with the backup on dvd+r dl at the right time the game works flawlessly
ps: dvd-r dl standard doesn't include ptp, dont waste money in new dvd burner, it won't work either
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RemyK313
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2. March 2005 @ 10:32 |
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Really?
I didn't know, people were kind of sketchy on details.
The only detailed information that came about was the whole PTP/OTP discussion. So if it doesn't matter, then the only problem lies somewhere after the PS2 boot screen and before the intro movie, am I right?
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thehetfie
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2. March 2005 @ 10:56 |
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yes, got these info on a ps2 italian forum. at this moment some guys are trying to analyze boot up code, i'll keep on eye on it for you afterdawners ;)
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AndreaGT4
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2. March 2005 @ 10:58 |
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I'm italian and i'm a user of that forum...i'll let you know ;)
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dbldown11
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2. March 2005 @ 11:01 |
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ok, the italians have it covered... :)
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SS2006
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2. March 2005 @ 11:29 |
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guys, some ppl can play it after they swap thier original lright after the intro movie
the intro movie could be on one layer itself, cause the copy doesnt run the intro movie, BUT after the intro movie if u swap the origianl with copy it runs flawlessly, so there has to be a way. can the 2nd layer be skipped or something?
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SS2006
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2. March 2005 @ 11:30 |
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and there are DVD writers that write in PTP mode
do a google search urself. Would that resolve the issue?
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dbldown11
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2. March 2005 @ 11:30 |
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guys, some ppl can play it after they swap thier original lright after the intro movie
the intro movie could be on one layer itself, cause the copy doesnt run the intro movie, BUT after the intro movie if u swap the origianl with copy it runs flawlessly, so there has to be a way. can the 2nd layer be skipped or something?
this has been mentioned a million times.... no one has figured it out as of yet - probably what were all waiting for.
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