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hardwoodg
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5. March 2005 @ 10:52 |
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nonething yet?
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j10
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5. March 2005 @ 11:22 |
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RemyK313
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5. March 2005 @ 13:37 |
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What they did for Xenosaga was remove the DVD9 Checks, and then they were somehow able to relink the game to work over three DVDs.
It eventually turned into 3 DVDs that booted as original games, and only held info for so many games.
How would you go about theoretically removing the DVD9 checks on the DVD?
Could it work if I burned two DVD layers to one DVD each?
I'm thinking I could use Apache to extract one entire layer, remove the DVD checks from layer 0, then whenever I switch into any mode, I'd swap discs.
Before I try this, can anyone tell me why this couldn't work? Or if I would need to edit any LBA values, or anything like that?
I'm proposing a simple DVD9 check removal, then burning each layer to one disc, and swapping discs whenever I would need to.
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Stinky_1
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5. March 2005 @ 13:54 |
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Remy what you are talking abotu has already been done. It works! but you need to swap discs a LOT! and if you dont do the intro movie at the right time it wont boot through. After that you have all the time in the world to swap discs. You can even use eject to do it as long as you have a direct boot mod chip.
"I dont know everything, but I'm pretty close"
Xzwer " are you mad? there is like 13 pages.." - When told to read through the post to find the answer to his question
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yojay
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5. March 2005 @ 14:01 |
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once u split the layer on seprate disks cant u then use a game dvdrip kit too convert them too cd then rejoin the 2 disk files then turn then bk in2 dvd and rebuild the image??
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5. March 2005 @ 15:15 |
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Actually it would only equal 2 discs,the dvd checks are not removed.They are still there in the game or the PS2 wouldn't recognize the discs.Apache is pretty good for finding good information on games,and making the images.You will want to check out Sony CD/DVD Rom Generator if you plan on rebuilding the image RemyK313.Hey Stinky_1 this process is just finding the split points of the first layer(layer 0) between the second(layer 1).Then just modifying the actual dvd checks with winhex.Hey yojay the original disc is on a Dvd9 to put that on cd-rs that would take way too many cd-rs to count,and no it wouldn't be easier it would actually make it harder.It is easier to actually go and find the end split point in the Dvd9 and then rebuild to 2 Dvds.This is what I would do first actually rebuild the image itself with Dvddecrypter.Then open up Isobuster and extract the LBA table index.txt file from the first layer.At the very end of the .txt it will tell you what file the disc should end with.Then you need to use Winhex a hex editor,and actually edit the checks.You don't get rid of the actually checks,all you do is replace the values for the start point of the next disc.Yeah it takes alot more though,than just rebuilding for this game I can tell from all the talk from it.I don't mind swapping the discs and I am pretty positive that it works.I still don't have the game to actually do the process,and am still waiting to get the game to start on it,and yes I do know how to edit and rip games for PS2 ;).I just thought this might help some of you out,that are planning on fixing this game.
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dacaz
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5. March 2005 @ 18:21 |
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just wanted to let you know that the winhex does not work either, when you think you got the thing shrunk and burned, then you get not a valid ps2 disc, and i shrunk it to 4.3 gig using winhex, tried doing it like the guy game, but it don't work, just waiting for someone to come up with a better idea, and i do have the u.s. version, legal copy, and can't back it up.any body got any better ideas, let me know.
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RemyK313
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5. March 2005 @ 18:38 |
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Very interesting. I'll try this sometime soon.
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joe33333
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5. March 2005 @ 19:29 |
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Has anyone tried burning it to a DL with Gear Pro Mastering Edition 6.05 like I mentioned a few pages back. It has an option to burn in PTP. It's a $750 program but a 20 day trail is available.
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Ikari_San
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5. March 2005 @ 19:29 |
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Apologies for my redundant comments, I didn't have the patience to wade through all 800+ posts. I have a hunch the right combination of mod chip and media could make it work. I don't know why, sounds kinda silly, and I don't know much about the structure of a PS2 game either, but it's worth a shot. I've backed up so many PS2 games that I'm full of confidence! 3 more days...
If anyone can be bothered, could you explain it again in detail how the game uses dummy data (or whatever it uses) to tell if it's an original or not? I know the full explanation is somewhere in this thread but I can't be bothered looking! Sorry! Please? I'm interested to know. And please give as much detail as possible!
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N91
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5. March 2005 @ 20:39 |
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Well, possibly good news. The torrent I posted an image of earlier finally kicked in!
I was getting 0kbps but I figured "Oh, I'll just let it go and see what happens" and lo and behold after 4 hours of nothing, i started downloading at a very slow speed. I left it on overnight, and now it's 56.8% done!
I'll let you all know if it works out.
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Gruelius
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5. March 2005 @ 21:05 |
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I havent read any of ur posts but to answer Ikari_San's question
If you 1:1 copy it WITH its protection it will detect the mod chip as being on to play the burnt disc. Ive got an infinity V4 and thats what happens when i try to burn GT3 and concept,
and the newer post i ignored:
I think the dummy data is there so pc programs disregard it as just errors and dont burn it or fail to burn it correctly
anyone who knows a way to run ps2 games off a network server please tell me!
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Ikari_San
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5. March 2005 @ 22:15 |
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Interesting...I've got an original copy of Gran Turismo 3 so I'll try and copy it now to see if it works with the Apple Pro mod, if it does then maybe GT4 will work as well? I can't understand how the disc can check to see if the mod chip is on or not, because if it was that easy all games would do it!
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Gruelius
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5. March 2005 @ 23:03 |
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something to do with sony not releasing info on it so there is no way ppl can find out about it and crack it
anyone who knows a way to run ps2 games off a network server please tell me!
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john2004x
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5. March 2005 @ 23:16 |
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The only way anybody will ever get GT4 to work is edit the IOPRP300.img with a hex editor. When I opened it I seen like dvd dual check dvd stuff like that
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Ikari_San
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5. March 2005 @ 23:18 |
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Well I just backed up my PAL Platinum Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec retail copy to Verbatim DVD-RW and it works perfectly. It actually seemed to hesitate a bit after the first warning screen, I thought it wasn't gonna load, but then it did, it was freaky!
I'm now officially getting my hopes up about GT4 :D
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john2004x
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5. March 2005 @ 23:19 |
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everybody should try to edit IOPRP300.img because that is the only way we will get it to work.
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Bar-code
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5. March 2005 @ 23:39 |
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Has anyone tried burning it to a DL with Gear Pro Mastering Edition 6.05 like I mentioned a few pages back. It has an option to burn in PTP. It's a $750 program but a 20 day trail is available.
Yes i have tried this with the original Gear pro software but it keeps saying the burner you are using doesn't support the method your trying to burn (PTP) now I have 2 burners currently Sony DRU710A and a benq DW1620 they both wont use PTP with Gear pro :)
If you need anymore trys using other suggestions I will be happy to try. BTW I'm actually trying to burn the PAL release which I downloaded in iso formatt but I have the original here as well.
So my guess is these burners going around don't support PTP.
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Gruelius
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5. March 2005 @ 23:45 |
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What program did you use?
anyone who knows a way to run ps2 games off a network server please tell me!
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Ikari_San
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5. March 2005 @ 23:46 |
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But that's a problem with getting it to a DVD5, why not work on getting a 1:1 dual layer version working, wouldn't that be easier? What are these "dual layer checks"? What are they checking?
When I get the disc I'm gonna:
1. Copy protection scan it
2. Sector scan it
If Libcrypt is the only protection found and no bad sectors then burn with DVD Decrypter + Settings{"check for structure protection", "detect mastering errors", "ignore read errors"}
If it uses any protection like DVD Securom (which Sony now offers through DADC, so it's a possibility) we're pretty much stuffed until Alcohol Soft releases a new version of Alcohol 120 with DVD Securom profile, or, try extracting a BlindWrite topology file and use that to burn.
If there are mass areas of bad sectors that slow the the drive to a halt when trying to read, I'll try to manually inspect the sectors and figure out where the bad chunk is (with ps2 games it's usually in one big chunk with empty sectors around it).
That's the battle strategy anyway!
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Ikari_San
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5. March 2005 @ 23:49 |
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Gruelius, DVD Decrypter 3.5.2.0 with abovementioned settings. Apparently the new version has even more copy protection evasion schemes in it that overcome some new protection used in some DVD-Videos. I think it's available from this website.
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Ikari_San
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5. March 2005 @ 23:55 |
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Yes i have tried this with the original Gear pro software but it keeps saying the burner you are using doesn't support the method your trying to burn (PTP) now I have 2 burners currently Sony DRU710A and a benq DW1620 they both wont use PTP with Gear pro :)
If you need anymore trys using other suggestions I will be happy to try. BTW I'm actually trying to burn the PAL release which I downloaded in iso formatt but I have the original here as well.
So my guess is these burners going around don't support PTP.
So does GT4 use PTP then? If that's the case then there's no hope in burning it I guess, since you say retail burners cant burn PTP on dual layer...
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Bar-code
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6. March 2005 @ 00:04 |
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So does GT4 use PTP then? If that's the case then there's no hope in burning it I guess, since you say retail burners cant burn PTP on dual layer...
Sorry I don't know what method it use's I only tried it cause ppl here where saying try ptp. But yes if it's burned as a ptp we have buckly's in getting this one done.
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john2004x
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6. March 2005 @ 00:10 |
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look it dosent matter if it is burned in PTP it is the IOPRP300.img the game is not protected. when you goto DVD Decrypter and put in your backup of GT4 it says its burned in PTP. but it does not matter if it was burned it ptp you guys keep on thinking "oh I need to burn it in PTP for this game to work" its all ps2 games are PTP and when you copy them it works so GT4 is just like the others. look when there is a patch releases like for swapmagic or something like that it edits the IOPRP.
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me2u
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6. March 2005 @ 00:43 |
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I have been following this thread with interest for many many pages now, I thought i might post this link to another forum which i read some interesting info on, read the post a bit down the page by "minos197"
http://www.ps2-scene.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31154&page=13&pp=15Quote:
It Has Been Done
As I said earlier my local Pirate claimed to have the GT4 US.I will resume to my previous post.My friend who was interested did not get it Since it could not play to his machine.Because I became EXTREMELY curious I went to the shop and said I was interested.This is what the Issues are.
-It is a DVD-R DL
-It works ONLY in the Slimline machines.I saw it with my own Eyes not booting on a V7 , V9 but booting without trouble to the V12
-It is NOT a HK SIlver.It is purple from the downside...
-I could not see the brand since the medioum was Unbranded
-It is written in Pionner 109 drive
-The modchip has to support it
-The Dvd5 ripped was expected but not immediatelly available.
-I do know he is downloading his games so one Release at least must be working.
-I do SUSPECT he is just copying with Nero since he had not heard it was uncopiable
What I suggest is for anyone with a slimline machine to check the boot-ability of a DRD-R DL until we find what release is not NUked.
I do have a V4 machine and a nec2500 so testing is not an option...Quote:
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-First of IT WAS NOT A DMS.He is Using Infinity for sure but he also mentioned to have crystal so it could be a crystalized psTwo.
-Secondly I asked why does it play on Pstwo only and he said that it is DVD-R DL.I told "Are you sure??They are not released yet I think but he told me where he got it from and I checked,They do Have DVD-R DL"
Now Jomaho It could be and would be downlsambled Only and only if it did not have the Layer check.But since the sollution is so simple (Buy a PTP recorder and do it)more shops will do this instead for waitng for a crack that may never work.So I do now believe it will never be cracked since there is no urgent reason.
Shadow300z offcourse a modchip can make a machine not read a certain type of media.Suppose you had a Messiah 1 or magic 1,2 there was no chance of DL reading.But most of the 4rth gen modchips that support upgrade have this ability so don't worry..Quote:
Could be rubbish tho, i dunno
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