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problem with friday night lights and dvd shrink
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coaltrain
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14. January 2005 @ 23:49 |
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Yeah trotter...i work at bbv, we get the new release dvds 1-2 weeks before the street date...sometimes earlier
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brobear
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14. January 2005 @ 23:58 |
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trinic1
You must have missed my post. Checking with the DVD Decrypter Forum you will find out the new version of Decrypter will handle the unreadable sector encryption used by Sony. A bunch of the new movies have it and it's not an encoding error. In fact, the new version of AnyDVD now has a window that indicates the encryption on the target disk before going to work on it. The encryption is much heavier on Little Black Book and Resident Evil than on Bourne Supremacy. DVD Decrypter had some patches for certain movies until the latest version was released. Once again you can check with the DVD Decrypter Forum. After all, lightning UK should know his own program.
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trinic1
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15. January 2005 @ 18:55 |
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nah i didn't miss it, I was replying to the original post. I did read your post and updated my copy of DVD Decrypter. The original post was about the problem with friday night lights. I had the same problem and fixed it by doing the way i mentioned. BTW thx for the info on DVD Decrypter. It helps alot.
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brobear
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16. January 2005 @ 01:22 |
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You're welcome. I've found the forum at http://www.dvddecrypter.com a handy source of info. If you like the app, you might want to check it out from time to time. The author of the program makes appearances to answer questions and give help.
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lpandgc
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16. January 2005 @ 12:38 |
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Hi everyone, I was having trouble with Decrypter but I think I got it now. Thanks.
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trotter45
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16. January 2005 @ 18:33 |
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Thanks for clearing that question up for me and your PM CUFU
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brobear
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16. January 2005 @ 19:09 |
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These threads do become enlightening...
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Bebii
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17. January 2005 @ 16:09 |
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I've copied Friday Night Lights to my harddrive using Decrypter and after opening the files in DVDShrink, when I go to backup it freezes after 1%, I've read that quite a few have fixed this problem with AnyDVD and other various sorts, but I still cannot get mine to fully backup. I have the updated version of AnyDVD and it hasn't helped with DVDShrink at all, I did get The Forgotten backup'd successfully with Decrypter and DVDShrink but I can't seem to have any luck with Friday Night Lights. I know this question has been asked a lot but does anyone have any other suggestions on how to get this to work properly. I've also tried VOBlanker and DVDShrink won't recognize due to some memory issue.
Thanks : )
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brobear
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17. January 2005 @ 18:22 |
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DVDCopy3 is a good program and comes with a 3 week trial. http://www.intervideo.com Record the ripped file with this program to see if it will backup the movie. If it does, you know the problem is with the Shrink setup. Make sure your Direct X is up to date as noted in the software requirements.
A couple of things, vague question, so I'll give some possibilities. Program files can become corrupted. I've had to reinstall DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink on different occasions. This is best done by deleting the programs, cleaning up with spyware/adware cleaners and then running a registry cleaner (Spybot, Ad-Aware SE, SpySweeper). Taking for granted anti virus software is used at least once a week. Do a quick scan here. Reboot and install the programs. Reboot before use of apps. Use latest versions.
http://www.dvdshrink.org
http://www.slysoft.com
http://www.dvddecrypter.com
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superbug
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18. January 2005 @ 13:52 |
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Thanks trinic. Thanks a ton. It seems like someone always assumes you know this one little detail and that little detail can screw up the entire process. I figured out using dvd decryptor to put it on my harddrive and such but it wouldnt work with shrink when i went to open image. That still frame thingy solved everything. Thanks for simplifying for us common folk.
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18. January 2005 @ 16:22 |
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Trinic1 had it right....i had backed up with decrypter but FNL simply would stop almost immediately after using DVD Shrink until i followed his instructions and did the unreferenced materials suggestion. Thanks. Here are his directions again!
Actually, it's a encoding error. What I did (and it works) was the same I had to do with Bourne Supremacy. Do this.
1.Use DVD Decrypter to pull it off the disk onto the hard drive.
2.Once You've done that open DVD Shrink and pull the files into it. (open files).
3.Goto "unreferenced materials", It will be on your left top. Once you click on unreferenced maaterials you will see an option on the right. By default it says "automatic", Change it to "still picture". Press Backup and your all set.
Hope this has helped.
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18. January 2005 @ 16:38 |
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I have never run into any of these problems but I belive this is why.
I dont copy any extras, just the main movie
Here is how I did Friday Night Lights, RE2, & LBB
All without an issue
Ripped with Decrypter in file mode with setting of main movie only.
- Open Shrink and use Reauthor (pull the main movie from right window to left window)
- Uncheck everything except for 5.1CH sound english
- Click back up (in ISO mode to HD)
- Burn with Nero or Decrypter (mostly Nero)
This is the way I have been doing my movies for a little while now, and I have tried them all. This way just seems to produce the best quality and no problems. :-) If you need to see pictures on how I do this check out my first guide here http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
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dawghouse
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18. January 2005 @ 16:48 |
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Okay...well...I successfully Burned friday night lights, special features and all on 1 disc. I discovered the problem to be that Little Billy Eliot thing, so I went to that 1 dvd folder the last1 Umm..Unmoutned files or somethin, found the file, went to re-author and replaced the billy eliot thing with a picture from my computer. Whole thing burned and I am watching it now
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brobear
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18. January 2005 @ 20:28 |
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I've yet to run into a problem where my software doesn't rip and record. I always run AnyDVD in the background. Often I rip with DVD Decrypter to be able to use hard drive files. (I like having my files where I can check them or work with them if the need or desire comes up.) With LBB I used AnyDVD and Decrypter to rip, I used RB/CCE to encode and burned with Nero. (I kept both versions of the movie and recorded to a DVD5 with as good or better quality than DVD Shrink with one version, keeping the extras.) Even with all the extras I had no problems and no need to edit any files.
When I did the Bourne Supremacy, I used the same ripping method. With that one I used DVDCopy3 to encode and burn the copy. No need to edit any files at all and I recorded the whole disc to DVD5. Also, I was using slightly older versions or DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD. So, just keeping my ripper software up to date and using some of the better recording software, has saved me from having to do a bunch of editing to record movies. With both LBB and Bourne Supremacy I recorded the entire disc and both came out with excellent quality and that is viewing on a 60 inch screen.
I really don't see the fuss, though I know what is happening. Sony had the decrypter software authors scrambling to catch up for a few days. Now that they have, it's simply time to upgrade and move on.
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lokilogic
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19. January 2005 @ 13:28 |
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Hey tritinic yeah this worked great by just changing that material to still image thz .... not really sure the moveis worth backing up though lol
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megabyte2
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19. January 2005 @ 13:56 |
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Hmmm I wonder whats the problem I used shrink (latest version) on friday night lights and it worked. I even burned with shrink and no problems at all perfect copy. I dont know why people rip with one program and burn with another.
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19. January 2005 @ 14:06 |
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Decrypter does rip better than DVD Shrink. I wouldnt trade Shrink for anyother program on my computer, but the fact of the manner is Decrypter will rip a movie faster and better than Shrink. If you are only doing the main movie which is what I do then you probably will not have a problem just using Shrink, but try the whole movie. :-)
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megabyte2
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19. January 2005 @ 19:05 |
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So you feel ripping with one program in this case DVD Decrypter and burning with another (shrink) is worth the hassle? Im using a 65 inch TV and I cannot tell the difference however I have noticed that shrink on 50% compression is worse than other programs. The pixelization is terriable.
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papaw
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19. January 2005 @ 23:40 |
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Man just wanted to say,
looks like most of yall shouldnt be in the noobs forums...lol..
I'm amazed reading all yall stuff..
Have no idea what your talking about though..lol
but hopefully will learn a little over time.
I'm just getting started doing this burning movies,
and making dvd's and stuff., so yall will prolly see my name in here a bunch asking yall questions,One
of yall should just come over here and sit down and show me all this stuff..lol
Thanks for the intersting reading
papaw
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brobear
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20. January 2005 @ 03:09 |
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megabyte2
The quality comes in with the encoding. Of course one has to have a good rip. Anything at 50% compression automatically goes to RB/CCE for me. No pixelation or skipping and a video that rivals the original. Anyone wanting quality at high compression needs to check this one out.
DVD Shrink is a decent app in its own right and it is free. However better can be had, for a lot of DVD recording I use DVDCopy3. As good or better quality than Shrink and a lot faster, if speed makes a difference.
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roc386
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20. January 2005 @ 04:06 |
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Try this, it worked for me when backing up Friday Night Lights.
First I used DVD Decrypter.
Had trouble using DVD Shrink 3.2 so I downloaded and used an older version of DVD Shrink, V 3.17 and everything turned out great, perfect copy.
Good Luck
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20. January 2005 @ 07:19 |
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megabyte2,
Yes I get better results this way and I have backed up over 500 movies.
First off though you dont burn with Shrink as it dosent do this.
Here is what produces great quality Backups. Give it a try you will be immpressed with the results I am sure
1. Rip Movie to HD using DVD Decrypter in File Mode (Main movie only)
2. Reauthor in Shrink (Uncheck all except for 5.1CH english sound) When backing up I choose to create an ISO image to my HD.
3. Burn the Iso with Nero
Now keep in mind this is copying the main movie only and ushually get 1:1 back up sometimes it drops to 90% or so, but thats only the longer movies. If you want to copy all the extra crap that you will probably never watch any way then you need to use RB/CCE as sugested by Brobear. Shrink does pretty good at anything at %80 or higher (If you use the enhancements), but anything more than that Would not turn out to good.
The main reason's I do only the main movie
1. Compression (ushually none)
2. Speed (much faster to just work with main movie files)
3. Never run into thse issues others run into with the newer movies
4. I might watch the extra crap once (maybe)
5. Quality (see 1 above)
I guess you have to ask yourself do you want a quality movie with little or no compression? or do you want a move squeezed to %50 just so you can look at a music video or two? Of course all this is just an opinion, but I would much rather have a movie as close to the original in quality as possible. :-)
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20. January 2005 @ 13:01 |
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Shrink does pretty good at anything at %80 or higher (If you use the enhancements), but anything more than that Would not turn out to good.
Appears you understand the limitations of Shrink and some other programs. With the enhancements, I might even give it a bit more praise than you. I've used it at 65% to 75% with good results. Before v3.2 it seemed to start breaking up at about 70% to 75% compression.
Handling encoding under compression is the task and a number of programs start to fail over 20% load, 80% compression as you say. The blockbuster movies, like Troy and Lord of the Rings, in fact any of the really long modern movies are near 8 GB for the entire disc, with the movies alone running 6 to 7 GB. With Some of those, they put the extras on a second disc. Shrink as you admit, just doesn't cut it at this level and there is nothing to edit. So there are several of the good movies that Shrink just isn't a good choice for. I've noted capable apps, no need to repeat myself.
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20. January 2005 @ 13:01 |
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I've noticed a number of people use the wrong terms when referring to the DVD recording process. Sometimes you just have to take the statement in context. If someone says they burned a movie with Shrink, we know Shrink was in the mix and not as the actual burner. For the newbies, I'll just break it into the 3 easy steps the process consists of when compression is needed; otherwise it's just a simple decrypt and record. The steps to DVD recording are:
1)Rip; this is the process of decrypting the movie and with a program such as DVD Decrypter, copying to the hard drive. One could say they ripped the Video_TS folder to the C: drive with Decrypter.
One could add editing, but that isn't a required step in all cases.
2) Encode; this is the process of compressing the movie to fit the target media.
3) Burn; the physical process of recording the DVD or CD media. This requires a software application, either part of a recording program like DVDCopy3 or a separate program like the Nero burning ROM. The recording drive is referred to as a burner, and the recording software is commonly referred to as a burner app or burner program.
So, it's Rip + Encode + Burn = DVD Backup I sometimes catch myself saying "burning" a movie when I mean doing a backup. So, I try to take things as people mean them. Sometimes though, people say things in a way as to make interpretation difficult. I try to do the best I can and hope the old hands will forgive me when I make a mistake.
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brobear
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20. January 2005 @ 13:11 |
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Here is a method of recording with Shrink that is quick and eliminates all but the Menu, which most of us like to retain. Troy, one of the blockbuster length movies, is the example here.
My method for doing Troy with Shrink:
Have AnyDVD running in the background (latest version).
Put movie in DVD ROM.
Place recordable media in burner.
Open Shrink.
Select Open Disc.
After program does initial analysis check segments under Full Disc
Backup / DVD Structure.
Large movie, so it's a good idea not to record Extras.
Click and highlight extras.
Move to right under Compression Settings,
In drop down window under Video, select Still Image with the Extras
highlighted (this inserts a still image instead of the files)
That leaves Menus and the Main Movie to be recorded.
Under Audio, select the sound tracks to keep.
Enter Backup
In window select Burn settings and set to 4X (fast burns aren't the
best)
Under Quality settings check both options.
Under DVD Region Free leave Region Free selected.
Under Target Device - Select Backup Target; in the drop down window
select your burner drive under Burn with Nero.
Click OK and proceed to record.
The above works as quickly as possible with good results. Remember
without the quality settings it is faster. Quality settings are for
the bigger movies, the smaller ones do okay without it. Learning the
difference comes with practice and analysing file size as compared to
quality. Pay attention to the compression levels. Usually about 15
to 20% and above is a good time to use the quality settings.
With the above method you get a movie only with a functional
menu. Under Re-author the menu won't function.
For PCs of questionable resources (slow and older CPUs and low RAM) it
is best to Rip with DVD Decrypter, Create a Hard Disk Folder for the
Movie, and then burn separately. That keeps the RAM expenditure at
any one time at it's lowest. Be sure to turn off any programs running
in the background with small PCs.
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