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having trouble backing up the movie "the Grudge"
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gravykid
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3. February 2005 @ 11:50 |
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Hey bbmayo. I tried your method, however when I open up Shrink to re-author, it doesn't recognize the files in the folder I have created. I have only encountered this problem with The Grudge. Used this method for The Forgotten and had no problems.
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marlonmac
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3. February 2005 @ 11:54 |
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Hello, I have been backing up movies with no problem, but I tried to back up The Grudge last night. I tried it with DCDXCOPY PLAT, it failed, I tried shrink, it failed. I downloaded Decrypter, it downloaded it to my hard drive and I can watch it fine, problem is I went in to shrink, clicked open files, picked the folder with grudge in it, clicked backup, it dissapeared for like a min, then came back on and was super slow, showing like 900 hrs to finish. Is there some step I am missing. I didn't burn it as an iso file, is that the problem? Thanks!!
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Erekose
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3. February 2005 @ 14:46 |
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OK so here's a new question for you guys
How can I backup the movie The Grudge so it will
PLAY IN MY XBOX?! :P
I'm at wit's end here! Please help me!
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seadale
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3. February 2005 @ 16:14 |
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still not sure whats going, still can't copy the grudge, tried turning off AnyDVD. tried all of your instruction above, other ways. it starts to rip using decrypter then about 28% in it stops. i watch where it says errors & it keeps just trying to read over & over again. Then i get an error message on the main screen from windows. its very frustrating, can't figure out where i'm going wrong. We watched the movie on dvd & it played fine. i just don't get it. HELP
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3. February 2005 @ 16:38 |
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OK
I just did the Grudge again to make sure and if you follow my instructions exactly in the first guide here it works fine http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
Make sure you have the latest versions of Decrypter and Shrink. When it gets to the part about setting a start and end point in Shrink you need to adjust the begining of the movie because they put a lot of blank frames in there, but other than that all went smooth as a knife threw hot butter :-)
Note: I did NOT use AnyDVD with this movie and all went perfectly fine. If you follow my instructions to the "T" and still have problems then I don't what else to tell you except that maybe your original disk is faulty (tiny little scratch or something) 3 of my buddies along with myself have succesfully backed up this movie using my instructions so I know it works. :-)
Another Note: If you hitting "Open Files" in Shrink then you are not following my guide ;-)
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Murat777
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3. February 2005 @ 16:48 |
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I bought the grudge yesterday and am trying to make a backup. I tried using xcopy but that didn't work. I am now going to try to use dvd decriptor and shrink, but i want to burn the one section of the special features also. I don't want to just burn the movie and i don't want to burn the whole thing because i'm afraid that compressing it will compromise the quality. So if I burn the whole movie with decriptor does shrink allow you to pick certain titles like xcopy does?
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ScubaBud
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3. February 2005 @ 17:48 |
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Full backup time table doing the following:
DVD Decrypter took 42 minutes to decrypt 67 files to the Hard Drive. None were skipped.
DVD Shrink took 12 minutes to do it's thing and
Burned the movie at 8x in 8 minutes. Total time 62 minutes. Full backup with everything except foreign languages. Full compression on everything except Main Movie set to Auto. Plays perfect.
Did the same thing, the same way with the same settings but this time using: AnyDVD & DVD Shrink
DVD Shrink Encoding took 42 minutes and
burning the movie at 8x took 8 minutes
Total time 50 minutes.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 4. February 2005 @ 11:12
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laddyboy
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3. February 2005 @ 17:48 |
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Shrink can be used to reauthor (reauthor mode) and you can drag the titles you want. The titles will play in sequential order. You can also keep the menus by using full backup mode and setting the compression level to "still image" for the titles you don't want. The unwanted titles will be replaced with a still image, conserving space.
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luv2copy
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3. February 2005 @ 19:04 |
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Hey guys, I stumbled upon this thread while trying to figure out how to bypass the encrption on resident evil 2:Apocolypse. I was using dvd xcopy platinum ,and thought I had hit a brickwall in my dvd back-up career. After taking your combined advices, I'm happy to report I'm back on track. I took care of RE:2 with decryptor and then DVD Shrink..burned it with decryptor. Worked awesome!! You're guide was very helpful bbmayo. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!! I'm expecting AVP and The forgotten this weekend. I plan on using platinum if I can..I'll keep you posted!!
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marlonmac
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4. February 2005 @ 04:08 |
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It worked for me a well! Thanks mostly to bbmayo, I followed his instructions to the tee, worked like a champ, I did have to fast forward to the movie bacause of the blank space, then I had to hit audio because for some reason it started in the directors comments, I clicked audio one time and bang, worked like a champ. Thanks to all!
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4. February 2005 @ 08:27 |
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@marlonmac
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When it gets to the part about setting a start and end point in Shrink you need to adjust the begining of the movie because they put a lot of blank frames in there
Should of read my earlier post amd you wouldnt have had the missing frames at the begining :-0 Also should have just unchecked directors comments when doing the compression. Oh well I am glad your happy and I could help :-)
@luv2copy
You may as well stivk with using Decrypter and Shrink on the Forgotten. I'm not sure about AVP, but I know you won't have any luck using XCopy with the Forgotten or most newer movies. I guess my question to you would be why are you so dead set on using a proggy that is old and outdated when you yourself had better results with Decrypter & Shrink?
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marlonmac
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4. February 2005 @ 08:41 |
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BB, Thanks! I did see that earlier post, I just don't know enough about shrink to take out the blank frames, that can be done in re author mode? I know it's probably on here somewhere but I just joined and haven't really had a chance to look around since I have joined ( I have been at work reading,lol) But this weekend I am going looking in here hard, great reading here. Thanks again!
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4. February 2005 @ 08:49 |
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If you followed my first guide it shows you how to adjust the start and end frames.. :-) There are several movies you will need to do this on. Best bet is while you have the file in Shrink just preview it there by hitting play and see if it plays fine. If there is a lot of balnk space or wierd sounds then you should go ahead and use the start end feature in Shrink to set your start point.. :-)
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seadale
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4. February 2005 @ 23:43 |
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i too would like to thank bb for his great instruction sight, very informitive. My only complaint was i could not print out the instructions for some reason, but thats ok. Finally after many tries i had success. i came to find out it was the disc i was copying. even though i tried cleaning somewhat severel times i still had problems. The last time i thorougly cleaned the disc. think that was the problem. it worked fine. sometimes its the simple things that get ya.in a way it was good that this happened to me as i got some great help....thx again!!!
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brobear
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5. February 2005 @ 01:55 |
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Sometimes a resurfacing tool like Skip Dr is needed to remove the smudges and scratches caused by a lot of use and abuse. That's why backups should be done when the original is new. ;)
AnyDVD has become a real asset for backing up the newer encrypted movies. I let it run all the time. Most of the time I use DVD Decrypter and rip to the HD in file mode (with AnyDVD running). Then I'll encode the movie (AnyDVD still running) and burn. Shrink is a good app and AnyDVD is invaluable with the new unreadable sector encryption. AnyDVD helps Shrink process the bad sectors without stopping. I'd hate to be without AnyDVD and Decrypter. I just enter open files and use Shrink as usual. In fact, I leave the settings in both Decrypter and Shrink in default (and leave AnyDVD running in the background).
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jkghome
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5. February 2005 @ 05:46 |
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I did a full backup of the grudge but I did not have to adjust or move anything. I will say it was a little slow, but all I cared about was getting a clean burn. I used DVDdecrypter and Shrink. It was an ordeal trying different processes and stuff. My DVD X-Copy Platinum would not even try to touch this movie or the forgotten either, but i have triumphed over them with the help of this great forum.YEAH YEAH
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seadale
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5. February 2005 @ 08:48 |
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so brobear, are you saying if i did not have AnyDVD running in the background i would have not succeeded. i still have no evidence AnyDVD is doing anything. how do i know it is doing its thing. i also have DVD43 & i don't know if its doing anything either. you'll have to excuse me i'm just a newbie.
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5. February 2005 @ 13:56 |
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@ seadale
If ya PM me your email address I can send you a copy of the guide in Power point or Word format ... :-)
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brobear
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5. February 2005 @ 14:28 |
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seadale
http://www.slysoft.com Check out the product description on AnyDVD. That will clue you in on how the program operates. On some movies with the unreadable sector encryption, Shrink has a tendency to stop or run exceedingly slow. AnyDVD is very good at processing files with the structure type encryption. AnyDVD is kept up to date better than most programs. So, one doesn't have to wait very long if a new encryption system comes along. Either AnyDVD is already set to break it or it will be updated to do so in short order. If you're waiting to see it do something, you may as well give up. All you get is the info window and the red fox on the taskbar. The program does all its work in the background.
For recording programs that will record on the fly, AnyDVD is just the ticket. DVD Decrypter is an excellent tool and does movies well on its own. But with AnyDVD running, I've found the recording process to go faster and smoother; with the ripping portion with Decrypter and the encoding process with Shrink and other apps.
For a good test of what I'm trying to point out, backup the movie the forgotten. Record the entire disc, extras and all. Try DVD Shrink by itself. Then run AnyDVD in the background and open the DVD in Shrink and do the full backup (do the analysis and use the quality settings). Next rip with DVD Decrypter and use those files in DVD Shrink. Then use AnyDVD running in the background and rip and do the backup with Shrink. You'll see some processes won't work, Shrink alone, and some will work slower. These tests may be time consuming, but it'll give you an idea of what's happening if you're truly interested.
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bibione90
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5. February 2005 @ 22:02 |
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I'm still having problems with backing up the "Grudge".I followed instructions from the thread by bbmayo and after I clicked on "Open Disc" on shrink. It analyze it first, then comes up with an error that says: DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue. Failed to read file "D:\" DATA ERROR (cyclic redundancy check). Can anyone help me with this.
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seadale
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5. February 2005 @ 22:26 |
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bibione i too followed bb's guide, its very good. in his instructions i never remembed using the open disc function. mabe your haveing the same problem i did, a dirty or scratched disc. clean it very well & try it again.are you using his 1st guide? believe me it works! good luck.
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seadale
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5. February 2005 @ 22:34 |
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brobear, thanks for the info. might have to breakdown & purchase AnyDVD when my trial period ends. all that i know is between the 3 programs, it has to be unbeatable, when it comes to reproducing backup dvd's. i notice the quality of my recent burns have far exceeded that of the dvdxcopy platinum. with the platinum i noticed ghosts in dark areas at times. my recent burns almost look as if i have a HD t.v. which i don't as of yet.
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brobear
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6. February 2005 @ 12:40 |
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seadale
Cyclic Redundancy can be caused by several things, i.e. a dirty optical head in the drive, dirty discs, and structural encryptions systems using unreadable sectors (Sony ARccOS). There are other causes. As you pointed out cleaning the discs and polishing with a soft cloth is a good idea. Old cotton Ts are good for the job. Cleaning the optical head is advisable sometimes, especially if there is smoke or dust in the PC environment. Resurfacing tools help with minor scratches. I've saved a bunch of yard sale quality DVDs with my Skip Dr. AnyDVD is the best solution for dealing with encryption systems that cause the cyclic redundancy errors. The info window even tells you when you're dealing with that type encryption. That's why I leave this decryption tool running in the background all the time when I'm doing a backup.
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Leialoha
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6. February 2005 @ 19:31 |
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bbmayo, your website is the best! I found aftrerdawn.com by typing into my google search engine "can't burn grudge"...lo and behold I found your instructions. Now I can back up all my other movies that I thought were uncopyable...Mahalo!
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brobear
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6. February 2005 @ 20:43 |
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So far I haven't heard of any uncopyable DVDs. Every time the studios make it difficult to do a backup, the software writers have updated the more popular apps to break the encryption and solve our problems.
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