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Needing help with TMPGenc and Virtualdub
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15. March 2005 @ 09:45 |
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That's it. The latest GSpot will read just about any video file format there is, and tell you the running time, any codec's needed, which ones would be used (in VirtualDub for example), frames per second (take note of that!) and a ton of other stuff, including a (very small) preview.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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Dr.Who
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15. March 2005 @ 11:21 |
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ahhh crap.....
Somethin went wrong, Jim.
As I played the movie today during lunch, I noticed Nero only burned 30 mins of the movie 1.1gbs.
After 30 mins it cuts off and goes back to a chapter screen. I noticed its only one chapter and it states the time being little over 30 mins long. Thats it.
Im not sure what may have happened. Was I supposed to setup up chapters or what? How come it only burned 30 mins of the movie?
Other than that, the 30 mins I got to watch on the movie plays and sounds perfect. No problem.
crap, CRap, CRAP!!! lol
When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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15. March 2005 @ 12:04 |
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OK, walking through this, one step at a time:
You editied the file in VirtualDub.
You frameserved it?, or loaded the whole AVI into TMPGEnc?
You extracted the audio.
You transcoded the audio to AC3.
You encoded the video.
How long, in running time, is the m2v (use GSpot to check) that TMPGEnc put out?
If it is full length, how exactly did you author it?
What program did you use to author it?
After it's authored, look in the VIDEO_TS folder, and add up the total amount of bytes. Does this approximate the total amount of bytes in the encoded m2v + AC3?
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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Dr.Who
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15. March 2005 @ 12:54 |
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Hmmm...
Errr....(covers face) I loaded the whole AVI into TMPGEnc, but you never TOLD me to do frames. How do you do that?
Ill check on the rest when I get home tonight.
I feel its just a small correction I have to do, but probably will have to redo the final dvd convert.
I used TMPGEnc DVD author to convert the AC3 file and the mp2 file to dvd.
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15. March 2005 @ 13:04 |
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Just me being confused. :)
Don't worry about frameserving just yet. That's a whole 'nother topic.
OK...
You got the audio out via VirtualDub.
You transcoded the audio in Ffmpeggui.
You loaded the TWO files into TDA....or alternatively, you loaded the .wav from VirtualDub as audio, and the AVI as video into TMPGEnc.
Set it up, encoded, authored and burned.
The only places I can see the process falling apart, are;
1.)If the AVI is corrupt and TMPGEnc didn't get all of it.
2.)Something you did in TDA, that it only authored the first chapter.
I don't know squat about TDA, hate it, never used it, so I can't help you on that one.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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15. March 2005 @ 13:54 |
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Well, as far as I remember...
I loaded the AVI into Virtualdubmod FIRST. went to the audio screen, right clicked AVI, set to full audio proc, saved audio as wav to a folder.
brought up the GUI program to conver the wav into AC3. Ok, done. Audio is complete.
Now with the video, I did everything you asked. Took the AVI once again and opened it up in TMPGEnc 2.5 ES (video only) NRSC or whatever that format code was thats NOT PAL.
Set header to 1, gop frames to 18, etc
Did the settings you asked, 5666kbs set, did the convert to M2v.
Opened up TDA, and clicked on ADD file. Loaded up the video, clicked on add file again and loaded the audio file.
skipped the chapters, and went from add file directly to start convert and THATS when I saw the length bar in red going over 4.7gbs, but afterwards showed in Nero Burning Rom to be only 1.1gbs long when I dragged over audio and video folder over.
But results were only a 30 min segment of the movie and only 1 chapter
When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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15. March 2005 @ 14:45 |
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Yup. TDA has authored one chapter.
Because you told it to.
Either author them all, or none, but because you simply clicked NEXT...
Make sure the .vob's add up to approximately the same number of megabytes as the original m2v+ac3 and it should be ok.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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15. March 2005 @ 19:16 |
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Well, if it helps, the error or message I was getting after adding both the video and audio in TDA was....
THE CAPACITY OF THE DVD IS EXCEEDED
The estimated size of the dvd folder you are about to create is 12465mbs.
This exceeds the capacity of a 4.7gb dvd by 4437mbs
I just click on ignore error and continue which is an option.
when I click on ignore, it says
Ignorning error will result in an out-of-standard DVD. do you which to ignore and continue?
I click on yes and it converts both files to created folders in a destination drive Ive chosen
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Well, I did it again in TDA, viewed the chapter screen, choose it to load 1 chapter, all video, and I played it and it played the whole movie on one chapter.
When I converted it, it still only converted 25 mins of the movie.
I just dont know what Im doing wrong.
When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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16. March 2005 @ 06:02 |
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Something may be wrong with the AVI, and GSpot is reporting a 90 minute video, which is probably double that, or TMPGEnc is outputting a video at twice the size it should be.
I have no idea why TDA would report 12465mbs. That's just silly.
Is the final m2v +ac3 actually 12465mb, or what?
TDA may be screwing this up, although it does not re-encode anything, and I don't know enough about TDA to give more suggestions.
Post a screenshot of the folder with the m2v and AC3 in it, as well as a shot inside the finished VIDEO_TS folder (all the vobs and stuff). I need to see sizes.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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Dr.Who
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16. March 2005 @ 11:34 |
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Yah, I think it will be best if I screen shot what Im viewing and go from there and we can figure this out together...
How do you post up screen shots on here, Jim?
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16. March 2005 @ 12:17 |
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You'll need some web space. Usually your ISP gives you a few meg. Upload the pictures to there, then link from here.
If you haven't got anywhere to upload to, just email them to me. I'll put them up.
ONE TIME disposable email address: dvdeo@shaw.ca
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Cheers, Jim
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Dr.Who
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16. March 2005 @ 19:54 |
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Sounds good.
Check your email. Im just going to send you the shots via email in order and you can figure this out with me.
Will send you 2 emails or 3 depending on the amount of shots I need to send you.
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17. March 2005 @ 05:58 |
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Unfortunately, I don't have MS Office installed, so I can't view your attachments.
Save the screenshots as .jpg then send them please.
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Cheers, Jim
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Dr.Who
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17. March 2005 @ 06:42 |
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Ahh great.....
Ok.... It will have to wait until tonight as once again, Im at work lol
Good thing I didnt delete them.
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17. March 2005 @ 07:17 |
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In the mean time, I'll see if I can get something to read those...
Edit: I found a viewer, so here goes...
I managed to view the files.
In the tmpgenc settings screen, aspect ratio should be set to 4:3 for standard TV, or 16:9 for widescreen, not 1:1.
Rate control mode, should be 2 pass VBR, not CBR. Click the Settings button, and change average bitrate to 5666, leave max and min alone.
Set DC Component precision to 10, not 8.
You can leave Motion Search Precision the way it is, although "Motion Search Estimate" should be fine on a 2 pass VBR encode.
Other settings here will make it take far longer to encode.
The Advanced settings are correct. Leave them.
GOP screen is fine, leave it.
TDA clip info is fine.
TDA Movie load is where things get funny. It says the mpg is 12,466 MB.
Is it really? Open Windows Explorer, find the m2v and see how big it really is!
Audio is fine.
TDA has totally screwed up the output.
A .vob can be NO larger than 1 gig, and it's output a huge, out of spec vob.
It's supposed to cut them up automatically, and hasn't. This has nothing to do with chapters, something else is severly wrong.
The chapters screen thinks the movie is 4 hours 54 minutes and 18 seconds long. This is obviously wrong.
Do me a favor, and download the DVDLab trial from http://www.mediachance.com
Load the m2v and ac3 into that. Put the audio and video into movie 1, by drag and drop.
Click View, DVD Topology, and tell me if there's any RED circles.
Look on the far bottom right, and tell me how large DVDLab thinks it is.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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Dr.Who
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17. March 2005 @ 07:46 |
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You might be able to read them, using wordpad as every windows as it under acceseries.
You should have a word somethin in windows. Like for me, my windows 2000 came with a word program. its like the cheesy version to Microsoft Word, but it works. It reads all word files too
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17. March 2005 @ 09:01 |
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I think we posted at the same time.
FYI, Word in XP doesn't read the images.
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Cheers, Jim
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Dr.Who
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17. March 2005 @ 09:23 |
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Aight, Ill change this all around tonight.
So you think the 30 min segment burn has nothing to do abou the frames and chapters, huh?
Aight, Ill go by your instinct and figure this out tonight.
ttyl
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Dr.Who
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17. March 2005 @ 09:25 |
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0h man.... (throws up)
XP SUUUUUUCKS....... I used to work for HP/Compach support, lucky me back when XP came out and Ill tell ya, that OS POS system was crap.
Never have loved it. Its simply a costume cover put over 2000. Thats all it is, with the priviledge from Gates to modify the icons and settings around.
Pure crap. Never will buy XP. I love 2000. Its simple and straight to the point.
From what I heard, Microsoft is supposed to go in delelopment soon in creating a newer 2000 version later on. Will be pretty much the same design that 2000 was focused on with an upgrade version to networking.
So to those that are reading this, that are thinking about upgrading their OS.......PLEASE.....stay away from XP. Worse POS OS there is. Stick with NT or 2000.
When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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Dr.Who
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17. March 2005 @ 18:30 |
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TDA Movie load is where things get funny. It says the mpg is 12,466 MB.
Is it really? Open Windows Explorer, find the m2v and see how big it really is!
Audio is fine.
No, Im not sure how big the mpeg file was...
To my surprise the size of the m2v file is 11.6 GB, which doesnt seem right at all. 11 gigs big???
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17. March 2005 @ 19:13 |
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Nope not right at all.
Re-encode it, with the settings I told you to change a few posts up.
CBR is what you were using, and if the bitrate is too high you're gonna get a file this size.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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17. March 2005 @ 19:14 |
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Do me a favor, and download the DVDLab trial from http://www.mediachance.com
Load the m2v and AC3 into that. Put the audio and video into movie 1, by drag and drop.
Click View, DVD Topology, and tell me if there's any RED circles.
Look on the far bottom right, and tell me how large DVDLab thinks it is.
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Ok, I installed this dvdlabpro, loaded the audio and video files into it. Dragged them over.
No red circules viewing DVD Topology. The size of it at bottom right is 12.96 GB. wow. thats big. It says DVD 5 next to the size. *shrugs*
When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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Dr.Who
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17. March 2005 @ 19:15 |
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Yep...... I think I goof'd....... LOL
Ok, round 7.......here we come lol
Going to change the settings to what you suggested and we'll see what happens.......
When you think you are at the end of your rope, just tie a knot and hang on...
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18. March 2005 @ 04:41 |
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Dang.....
I woke up this morning and the damn thing is still running.
Its at 71% lol
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18. March 2005 @ 05:41 |
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Yes, the settings I gave you are slow to encode, but a higher quality product.
When you load this new m2v and AC3 into dvdlab, it should read about 4.6gig, not 12.8 :)
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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