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wich dvd are the best
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karlai
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7. May 2005 @ 22:39 |
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WHAT BLANK DVDS SHOULD I USE FOR MY EMPREX DVD DUAL 16X?
VERBATIM DVD+R 16X(BURNING THEM AT 4X FOR NO SKIP ON THE MOVIE)?
GIVE ME UR FAV BRAND:D
PD:SHOULD I USE DVD+R OR DVD-R
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7. May 2005 @ 22:58 |
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Read the forum rules. No all caps.
And the search feature is pretty good, try it.
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karlai
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7. May 2005 @ 23:03 |
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why no caps?
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why no caps?
Ask the admins. and it's considered yelling. and it's a forum rule.
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7. May 2005 @ 23:41 |
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Plus having all caps are not very pleasing to the eyes. I have 2 of those drives and I have had 100% success with made in japan media(taiyo yuden,ricoh,sony, etc.) The majority of the discs I have been using with these drives are 8x +R fujis made in japan(ty). I have not had a single propblem with these in all 7 of my burners. Make sure to go to drvupdate.com for your firmware and bitsetting tool.
I have used the hell out of all 4 of the emprex burners (1 4x,1 8x,2 16x) I've owned over the last 3 years and they still work like champs. Can't beat the price.
As far as what format to use, it is up to what your dvd players like. If you use +R, you can change the booktype of these to DVD-Rom for better compatibility. I don't know how, but I can also change the booktype of -R media to DVD-Rom with the 16x emprex burners. Anyway, good luck.
Oh, one last thing. If you decide to experiment with DL discs, go with verbatim DL discs. I use nero and decrypter to burn these, but I like the results I get with decrypter a lot better. Even though you can burn these at 4x, burn these at 2.4x or you will get a problem 33% of the time. Also, even thoug you can burn single layer discs at 16x, burn at 8x or slower to cut down on errors.
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7. May 2005 @ 23:41 |
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there are 2 trains of thought on your question.As its complex to give you a straight answer as both sides of the coin say that plus is better than dash and vice a versa heres some info that may help you decide:
Enjoy the light reading
DVD Formats Explained
When DVD technology first appeared in households, users were simply popping DVD discs into their DVD players to watch movies - an option to the then-conventional VCR. But just as compact disc technology evolved so that users could record and erase and re-record data onto compact discs, the same is now true of DVDs. But with so many different formats -- DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-ROM -- how do users know which DVD format is compatible with their existing systems, and why are there so many different formats for DVDs? The following information sheds some light on DVD's different flavors, the differences between them and the incompatibility issues that the differing technologies have sprouted.
The crucial difference among the standards is based on which manufacturers adhere to which standards. Similar to the old VHS/Beta tape wars when VCRs first hit the markets, different manufacturers support different standards.
DVD+R and DVD+RW
DVD+R and DVD+RW formats are supported by Philips, Sony, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Ricoh, Yamaha and others.
DVD+R is a recordable DVD format similar to CD-R. A DVD+R can only record data once and then the data becomes permanent on the disc. The disc can not be recorded onto a second time.
DVD+RW is a re-recordable format similar to CD-RW. The data on a DVD+RW disc can be erased and recorded over numerous times without damaging the medium.
DVDs created by a +R/+RW device can be read by most commercial DVD-ROM players.
DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD-RAM
These formats are supported by Panasonic, Toshiba, Apple Computer, Hitachi, NEC, Pioneer, Samsung and Sharp. These formats are also supported by the DVD Forum.
DVD-R is a recordable DVD format similar to CD-R and DVD+R. A DVD-R can only record data once and then the data becomes permanent on the disc. The disc can not be recorded onto a second time. There also are two additional standards for DVD-R disks: DVD-RG for general use, and DVD-RA for authoring, which is used for mastering DVD video or data and is not typically available to the general public.
DVD-RW is a re-recordable format similar to CD-RW or DVD+RW. The data on a DVD-RW disc can be erased and recorded over numerous times without damaging the medium.
DVDs created by a -R/-RW device can be read by most commercial DVD-ROM players.
DVD-RAM discs can be recorded and erased repeatedly but are only compatible with devices manufactured by the companies that support the DVD-RAM format. DVD-RAM discs are typically housed in cartridges.
DVD-ROM
DVD-ROM was the first DVD standard to hit the market and is a read-only format. The video or game content is burned onto the DVD once and the DVD will run on any DVD-ROM-equipped device.
For more information, see:
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
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7. May 2005 @ 23:54 |
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I suggest you get some RW discs to experiment with. If you try something new and screw up, you can always erase them and use them again. I have always used sony RW discs with great success. I recently bought another 10 pk of Sony +RW discs(couldn't pass up the price) that were made in japan and have AccuCORE. These seem to work a little better(run quieter than my older ones and play smoother when fast chapter skipping and 128x search) than the old sony RW I've been using, but the old ones still work fine.
Whoa, cold medication and alcohol seem to be taking effect, night, night.
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8. May 2005 @ 01:06 |
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wolfniggr,
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but I can also change the booktype of -R media to DVD-Rom with the 16x emprex burners.
Not to raise a stink but this is impossible and can not be done. The place on the disc that allows you to set the booktype to dvd-rom on +r/rw media is prewritten on -r/rw media and can not be written over. You can only change the booktype to dvd-rom on +r/rw media.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150
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karlai
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8. May 2005 @ 02:07 |
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Verbatim or Sony dvds(DVD+R 16X) at 4x on Nero or decryper=D And that should be succesfull right?no skips and stuff like that..Cuz i have been using HP (DVD+R 8X) at 4x and i had 2 skips per movie but they are perfect only for those skips.. IHATE THEM.. so im using verbatim and sony know to see if those HP DVDS are the problem..TNX
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8. May 2005 @ 13:58 |
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Not to raise a stink but this is impossible and can not be done.
I used to think that, too. I don't know how or why but the last -R I used to back up Appleseed for my brother mysteriously has a DVD-Rom booktype. I'm still looking into it, but I have had 3 of my friends take a look at it on their systems and they all confirm that the booktype on the -R disc shows up as DVD-Rom. I remember someone else on this site saying the same thing and naturally I was thinking that was impossible. Well, I'm glad I didn't reply to it and make a complete ass of myself since I was also able to do it. Right now, a buddy of mine is looking to see why and how it was possible. I will definitely reply back or start a new thread once I find out how this happened.
Oh, btw if you read that article on the site you posted earlier,
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150
you will see that under the DVD-R bitsetting heading, it is not impossible to change the booktype on -R. And if you follow the link at the end of it,(where it says "here") you will see that others are able to do it, also. Emprex dvd burners are really BTC drives, one of the mentioned burners that have this capability.
Again, I will post my findings when I have figured out how it does this for you non believers.
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8. May 2005 @ 14:23 |
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karlai
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8. May 2005 @ 17:00 |
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for ps2 backups dvd-r or dvd+r?
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8. May 2005 @ 18:27 |
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depends on ur ps2 version. 1-4 use only -r 4+ will play both. just use good media, and burn at 1x.
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karlai
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8. May 2005 @ 18:36 |
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my dvd burner doesnt burn at 1x:S just 4x,8x,12x,16x:S its ok burnin at 4x?
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8. May 2005 @ 21:06 |
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karlai, you burner will burn single layer dvds at any speed from 1x to 16x. You can use Nero DriveSpeed to set your burners speeds.
I will edit this tomorrow(in 12hrs) once I get home, but for now I will leave a pic of the tool I use for changing the booktype on my discs.
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karlai
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8. May 2005 @ 21:20 |
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so.. with that i can change my burner speed?
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8. May 2005 @ 21:25 |
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wolfniggr,
I read through that whole thread at cd freaks, and I will no longer say that booktyping dvd-r to dvd-rom is impossible but it is written to a different part of the disc and is still identified as dvd-r format since the area on the disc that stand-alone players identify what format the disc is has not been changed where as with dvd+r media booktyped dvd-rom the disc is identified by stand-alone players as dvd-rom (same as new pressed dvd's) so there is no reason to booktype a dvd-r to dvd-rom as it will make no difference and not improve compatability. Booktyping a dvd-r to dvd-rom is worthless and does not have the same positive affect as booktyping a dvd+r to dvd-rom (no harm intended only stating the facts).
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8. May 2005 @ 21:32 |
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how do i put images in here? hey i am on nerodrivespeed what sholud i mark or unmark?:O
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8. May 2005 @ 21:42 |
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Tell you what I'll do, I will give the disc to a friend of mine and see if it will play on his old dvd-rom drive. If I remember correctly it only reads +R media. I will let you know if it is able to play it without a problem. Since all the dvd players I have(9 of them) play every format, I figured testing it on my friend's DVD-Rom will be a good way to see if it is worth changing the booktype on -R discs.
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8. May 2005 @ 21:48 |
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C:\Documents and Settings\Karla Ivonne\Mis documentos\Mis imágenes/nerodrvespeed.jpg
:S this is were i can change my burner speed to 1x?
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9. May 2005 @ 01:02 |
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Interesting, what are the credentials of those authors at CDFreaks? Wonder if they're any better than yours or mine and where did they get their info. One of those heres did have an interesting article I'd seen referenced before. It did include some sources. http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113 Says DVD +R/RW is the better format.
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Although you will understand that it?s not possible to change the booktype field for DVD-R discs there still excists a DVD-R bitsetting. Some claim that this increases the compatibility but this has not been independently confirmed by anyone and as it?s technically impossible to change the booktype field it will still be possible for the hardware to find out that a disc is a DVD-R. The booktype setting for DVD-R discs seems to be based on a workaround that has not been proven to be working.
It appears the author of the piece being used in this thread supporting booktyping -R doesn't seem to think it enjoys that high a success.
As for the need of booktyping, unless one is using an antique standalone, there is no need. With the new players, there are few compatibility problems due to + or -R formats. As wolfniggr pointed out, there isn't a -R only drive in the house and an old one of a friend needs to be used for testing. At current prices, maybe the friend should buy a new player that plays multiple formats. (Who knows, maybe the friend has.) One can get a player for less than what some 50 disc spindles cost.
Who said burn factory DVD ROMs? Those are pressed, not burned. The process is different from our optical burners in PCs.
Back to the original question:
karlai
Get a copy of DVDInfoPro or DVD Identifier. The only real way in many cases is to determine the manufacturer of a disc. Ricohjpn, Taiyo Yuden, Mitsubishi, Ritek, Sony, Philips, and a few others are tops in the industry and manufacture media for many of the top brands. Takes some database searching to have enough info to help for pre-sale decisions. Many times one doesn't know what they have until they get the purchase home, but it's handy to know what one is working with.
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100% success with made in japan media(taiyo yuden,ricoh,sony, etc.)
Interesting, where does Sony come from? Quote:
Sony DADC is the world?s largest producer of optical disc media with twelve facilities throughout the United States, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Austria, India, Australia, Hong Kong and China. Sony also operates two replication facilities in Japan, which report to Sony Music Entertainment Japan (SMEJ).
That from a Sony Release, http://www.sonydadc.com/americas/news.news4.go .
By the way, Sony can be made by Sony, Ricoh, or Mitsubishi.
Taiwan makes a lot of good media and Ritek is one of the most notable manufacturers. Taiwan makes a lot of excellent media, however much of the no name media comes from there as well.
So, good media can come from places other than Japan and buying Japanese doesn't always ensure the best. Learn who makes what and buy the branded media from the manufacturer that has a good track record. Also, deal with a reputable dealer who honors a good guarantee.
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karlai
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9. May 2005 @ 01:46 |
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what speed do u guys burn?and brand?and software?:D
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9. May 2005 @ 13:37 |
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Ok, here are some more screen shots of info on that disc I burned.
This next one is interesting. Usually at the top where it says Type:, you will see DVD Video and to the right of that, the physical format of the disc(+R,-R,+RW,-RW) in parenthesis even if +R/RW discs have a DVD-Rom booktype. This one for some reason doesn't show it's a -R disc, it shows up as if it was a pressed disc.
Still waiting for my buddy to get home to test out the compatibility on his +R/RW drive.
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Interesting, where does Sony come from?
Not sure what your getting at brobear, all I did was give examples of brands that are made in japan. Not to say that all brands of media are only made in one country, but to specifically look for the ones that say made in japan as opposed to ones made in taiwan for example. I myself have lots of sony +R and +RW discs that say made in japan. Can't recall the exact media code for the +R(SONY ???), but I think they are similar to the +RW(SONY S11) media code. I figured since karlai had the same burner I have, I would give her my opinion on the media I have had the most success with.
Will reply back with more info. Oh, and karlai, burning at 4x is fine. Just make sure to use good quality media. If you go to drvupdate.com like I suggested earlier, you can download a firmware update program(great little tool), a bitsetting program(great tool, too) and you will see a media compatibility chart for your burner. Good luck.
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I love Sony media:
Sony DVD-R 8X (SONY08D1) Made in Taiwan
Sony DVD+R 8X (SONY D11) Made in Taiwan
Both have given me flawless results and tested well with Nero Disk Quality Tests for overall quality and PI results.
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