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Shrink has really slowed down!
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fishbulb
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16. May 2005 @ 19:56 |
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Has anyone else experienced shrink working slower than usual? I'm using the same one I've always used--from dvd shrink website, latest version available. I don't have nero so I don't have whatever version it uses. I shrunk a movie tonight and it took over 3 1/2 hours using only deep analysis. I've done similar and even bigger movies than this one in about an hour. Decrypter still works fine although I seem to be getting alot more CSS warnings and other errors lately but the movies always burn eventually.
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ahab336
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16. May 2005 @ 20:21 |
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I had sorta the same thing happen. It turned out my burner had been bropped down into PIO mode...which is very much slower.
You need to go to device manager, go to the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers, go to the appropriate controller and device for you burner and select the properties. The go to the advanced settings tab, and change the transfer mode from PIO only to DMA mdoe if available. Say OK, and then go back in to make sure it worked. If the "current transfer mode" still says PIO mode, then you need to uninstall the controller that your burner was located on, reboot and Windows should recognize your drive again, in the correct DMA mode.
This will give you a speed boost. for sure, as I had this exact problem 3 days ago. I did this and it worked like a charm. I had been as low as 950 KB/s while burning, and now I'm back up to 4500 again.
Hope this works for you.
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jer2911tx
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17. May 2005 @ 08:26 |
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i'm using win98, so i can't change my dma via IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers, i go through the cd rom line on device manager and check dma
but it is still taking forever to encode.
the burn time isn't awful, but never above 2.5x.
it's the encode portion that takes an hour or more, no idea why
512k memory with only the firewall running while burning.
plenty of space on the drive, and defragged recently
driving me crazy, may try to post a new thread
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webhedreg
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17. May 2005 @ 09:11 |
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Hi,
It may well be worth downloading, updating & running Ad-aware and seeing how much spyware etc... is running on your PC. It seems unlikely to be a hardware set-up as De-Crypter is working fine presumably reading from the same DVD drive. Although you have closed most applications down, it may be worth trying out Enditall2 or similar and closing every last app other than essential processes, this will allow you to do this without any accidental wrong shutdowns etc... Also have you loaded any seemingly unrelated software within the last week or 2, I had an experience with DVD profiler, where it totally screwed with Shrink and Nero, ended up having to do a clean install to correct problem.
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washy
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17. May 2005 @ 09:26 |
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Ahab 336 just to say a big thanks your suggestion's cured my freezing problem uninstalled the controller rebooted machine back to it's old self thank's again onward's and upward's
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jer2911tx
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17. May 2005 @ 10:10 |
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i'm going to try to upgrade my operating system from win98 to win2k.
the op sys is on my c drive, and my d drive is a 60 gb drive with my mp3s and other files.
if i upgrade to win2k and change my c drive from fat32 to ntfs, and change my d drive from fat32 to ntfs, will i lose files on the d drive?
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 14:09 |
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Well, everything is set to DMA so I don't know what the problem is! I'm really beginning to hate DVD Shrink! It's apparently not my drives. I have a DVD-RW drive that I had been using to rip and burn but recently got a DVD-rom drive to do the ripping. I've tried dvd's in both drives and it's the same deal. To give you an idea of what it looks like...when shrink is doing it's initial analysis, the one with the preview screen that should only take a minute or two, the picture in the preview screen will analyze for about a second and then pause for a second, then analyze for a sec and pause for a sec. Get the idea? It does this all the way to the end. and takes 2 to 3 minutes longer than it should. When I do deep analysis it does the same thing and also while encoding but it takes 2 hours or more longer than it should to finish. BTW, my new drive is set up externally through a USB port. Could this have anything to do with my problem? Should I try a different USB port?
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 14:18 |
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Tried a different USB port and didn't help. Even tried my original DVD-RW drive w/ the external turned off. Didn't help either!
I don't know what the crap is going on! I'm about to just give up on shrink and break down and buy something more reliable. At least I know I'll get a program w/ updates that way! If it's going to take over three hours just to shrink/encode a movie, what's the point?
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. May 2005 @ 14:20
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 14:23 |
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I forgot to throw this in:
During deep analysis the rate hovered around 1300-1400 KB/Sec
Analysis Frames/Sec less than 50
During Encoding the encoding rate was around 1100 KB/Sec
Buffer rate was around 50 MB.
I can't remember exactly where these numbers are supposed to be but I know these can't be anywhere close!
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ahab336
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17. May 2005 @ 15:48 |
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Well if you have DVD Shrink 3.2, I really dont think it is a problem with the program itself.
I am using that and DVD43 right now (an additional decryptor basically), and am burning with my Lite-On DVD-RW drive at 4500 or so. It takes me a total of 45 minutes or so to do a DVD. Now I was in the same boat as you guys, having it considerably slower, and I did a few things.
I first did the Ad-Aware (as suggested by someone else now). Didn't find much out of the ordinary, so I moved on.
I went into my Prefernces (Edit>>>Preferences) and changed the target size to 4360MB (drop down box>>>Custom, 4360MB). Easy enough. This just makes it so it doesn't burn all the way at the edge of the DVD where it is less consistent media. Also a simple thing.
I also checked DMA's....and it turned out that was my problem. I had my drive running in PIO mode, so I fixed it and it works fine.
Since you have it back in DMA, and it still doesnt work right, I would suggest trying the Ad-Aware, changing target size (which is really more helpful if youre getting failed burns, not slow burns), and then finally if it still doesn't work, I would suggest just uninstalling and reinstalling DVD Shrink 3.2.
Let me know what happens.
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duketown
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17. May 2005 @ 16:29 |
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I'm using Shrink on a laptop nonetheless, and having no problems. I know you think it's the program, but it could be something else. I would suggest doing a selective startup in XP. Go to Start-Run and type msconfig. The system configuration utility should pop up, and in the first windows, check the Selective Startup button. Then check off everything but the system services, and make sure to use the original boot.ini. Reboot, and try it again in that cofiguration.
Like I said, I download Shirnk a week or two ago onto my laptop, and it is working like a charm. Using AnyDVD for decrypting, and it's working great. I think it might be something different then the program fishbulb, otherise just uninstall and reinstall.
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 16:54 |
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@ahab336 & duketown
Thanks for the tips guys, but I've actually already done everything you suggested, and more.
Like you ahab336, I'm using Shrink, decrypter, and DVD43. I've uninstalled and reinstalled shrink. Both of my drives are Lite-on. I have the target size set at about where you do ahab336. I have Spysweeper running on a daily basis and nothing unusual has shown up.
I have McAfee running every other day. I also check for fragmentation regularly and defrag when necessary.
I'm at a loss unless it could be some kind of conflict with having the external drive installed. I checked for the latest firmware for it and as far as I can tell, it's up to date.
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 17:13 |
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Just tried it again and it's just as bad if not worse than before! The deep analysis rate is staying well under 1500 KB/sec.
And like I mentioned earlier, Decrypter still seems to be fine. It burns in under 20 minutes at 4x. If I don't figure out something here, I'll have to purchase something hopefully as easy to use as shrink or just leave my cpu on overnight and let shrink run then. I can't wait around for close to 4 hours at a time for a movie encode!
BTW, when I reinstalled shrink, under "Select target image file" I can't remember how to set it to my default destination. Anyone know?
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 17:22 |
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@duketown
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Then check off everything but the system services
Do you mean check everything but system services or uncheck everything but system services?
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 18:51 |
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Does anyone know if the version of shrink that comes with Nero can be used w/ decrypter or do have to use it with Nero?
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jer2911tx
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17. May 2005 @ 18:55 |
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do a search and use the scuba pete guide or any guides in bbmayo sig
you can uncheck burn with Nero and use and proggy you want to burn with, or use decrypter to burn instead of Nero.
there is a box to uncheck if you don't want to use Nero with shrink
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 18:58 |
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So are you saying that the Nero version of shrink is like the free version? Because I know you have that option in the free version, I just didn't know if it was available ever since shrink "sold out" to Nero.
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jer2911tx
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17. May 2005 @ 19:00 |
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check your version of shrink and see if it matches the latest version from the software download page
dvd shrink
check the DVD Shrink link and just download over your shrink if you want to be sure
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fishbulb
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17. May 2005 @ 20:18 |
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I've already uninstalled and reinstalled shrink from the DVD Shrink home page. Didn't help. Guess I'll give Nero a shot as a last resort before possibly purchasing something.
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webhedreg
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18. May 2005 @ 00:07 |
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You need to look at a few facts to help diagnose this problem.
Firstly as you said, the Shrink version you are using has always worked fine before on your machine, so you already know that the software is fine and it works okay. Secondly, changing Nero is not going to help, as it is the encoding and analysis that is taking forever, even if you burn speed is only 2.5X then this is still only going to be a small part of the total delay. It definitely sounds as though you have changed or introduced something onto the PC which has caused this.
If the whole problem only started when you added the second drive, then this must be the source of the problem. Try a total removal and ensure the PC has no record of the drive, maybe do a reboot.
I also had a similar problem when I put Alcohol 120 on one of my machines, the virtual drive seemed to cause Shrink a problem and slowed everything down, cured by removing 120 from that machine.Seriously avoid buying any software to replace Shrink, as in my experience they are all a waste of money, and won?t give you any benefit from what you already have.
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duketown
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18. May 2005 @ 11:13 |
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Fishbulb, just leave the system service check, uncheck everything else. Also, you might want to diable McAffee and see it that improves performance.
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fishbulb
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18. May 2005 @ 14:26 |
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@webhedreg
I was only going to dl Nero to use the latest version of DVD Shrink. I assume it is newer than the one I use. I was still going to use DVD Decrypter too. I'm going to try the complete removal of the new drive and see if that helps.
@duketown
I tried disabling McAfee a couple of months ago just to see if it helped speed things up, even though everything was working fine. All it did was allow a couple of viruses to get in. Didn't speed up at all.
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fishbulb
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18. May 2005 @ 16:40 |
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EUREKA! I've found it! Seems I had installed some sort of USB thing- I have no idea what it is or does- when I was setting up my external drive. I uninstalled it and everything seems to be back to normal, for now anyway. Thanks for all the help and suggestions everybody! You guys are great. Not to mention everyone at the DVD Shrink forum at digitaldigest.com
Thanks again!
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