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PS3 Backup Theory Discussion
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RemyK313
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24. May 2005 @ 14:00 |
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How about we speculate a little about how PS3 backups will work.
I think that the immediate beginnings of PS3 backups will be hard drive based. Seeing as no one actually has a blu-ray reader/burner yet, it's probable that the first backups will be dumps from the console to a hard drive, very much the same way that Gamecubers and Dreamcast people had to do theirs.
I say this because I don't think Blu-Ray will catch on immediately. Just like DVD burners took a while to catch on, I predict that Blu-Ray will have it even harder.
The only applications that blu-ray has is for high-storage media, and the only high storage that's wanted is super high resolution movies. That's why I think companies will keep on making DVDs until the day that people DEMAND Blu-Rays.
Also, think of the industry. The industry giants are going to be all over this technology, and they'll probably make their own format to compete against it. So, it's too early to tell anyways.
I think that lot of future games will be DVD-Rips. If a boot disc can be made (which may or may not happen) the first and probably most popular thing to happen will be DVD5 rips. Because I seriously doubt that the games will be gigantic due to anything more than super hi-res movies. Just look at Xenosaga. If you rip all the movies out of those games, it boils down to a DVD5 rip no problem.
Anyways, the first tools will probably be movie/sound/music rippers, and this'll help accomplish rips for that system.
Back to Blu-Ray, I think Sony purposely chose this media simply to keep amateurs (like all of us here) from having an easy time backing up the games.
Finally, if Blu-Ray ever catches on, it'll be because of Hollywood. People will shell out money for Blu-Ray players, for super hi-res movies, just like they did with DVDs. This is specuation only. Who knows what could really happen.
But I think Sony has us beat. It won't be as easy in the future, at least not for another 5 years.
I have a lot more info, but no time to write it, so let's just discuss this, as it's probably something we're ALL wondering about.
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24. May 2005 @ 15:01 |
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ps22man
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24. May 2005 @ 16:28 |
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yeah ture, u will only be able to back up at first on a hard drive btu if blu-ray dissc are 50 gb there is no point in buying a hadr drive cause even if you forked out the money which woudl be alot for liek a 500 gb hard drive that si only 10 games. just liek double laeyr dvds are to much now blu-ray will also go down in price. they have already talkign about blu-ray burners so i dont think they'll be expensive but the discs will.
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clouser
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24. May 2005 @ 17:46 |
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i wonder (and i have no idea what the specs arebut) will it do HDTV?
I find suicide interesting because its the conscius desision to no longer exist
george carlin.
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RemyK313
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24. May 2005 @ 21:25 |
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Yes, Sony has officially said that ALL games will have support for HDTV. I think they said something like 720p at the minimum, but yeah, they definitely plan to make developers churn out games at higher resolutions.
Alkohol : Thanks a lot, that information is amazing. If Philips AND Pioneer are looking into it, then I officially am changing my position. Forget everything I said, unless for some weird reason consumers don't pick this up, I now believe that Blu-Ray will be the next big thing for movies, and that if they're going to have such huge companies behind them, then the format will at worst end up like the current DVD DL discs (expensive, that is)
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Anthony7
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25. May 2005 @ 02:47 |
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i know this is off topic but as for gaming goes
is 720p better than 1080i?
is it really noticable to the naked eye?
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25. May 2005 @ 07:34 |
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Alkohol : Thanks a lot, that information is amazing. If Philips AND Pioneer are looking into it, then I officially am changing my position. Forget everything I said, unless for some weird reason consumers don't pick this up, I now believe that Blu-Ray will be the next big thing for movies, and that if they're going to have such huge companies behind them, then the format will at worst end up like the current DVD DL discs (expensive, that is)
@RemyK313,
Yeah... this is great news indeed. I gotta agree with you, and YES.... I will end up buying one from them - money wise is not an issue for me, but on the other hand, I would love to play some back up too. Apparently, now that Philips and Pioneer are getting ready to launch their next dvd burner generation that will support to record Blu-Ray format, it sure is looking prominent to me. However, now all we need to worry about is the "cracking and modifications" method for that newly vicious PS3 that's all.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. May 2005 @ 07:37
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nrk4594
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25. May 2005 @ 10:33 |
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http://ps2.gamespy.com/articles/585/585956p2.html
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CELL is a security-enabled architecture, meaning it has security features on chip. Piracy has typically been combated by software solutions. Tom Halfill on Microprocessor Report says, "A lot of (piracy) techniques rely on one application being able to access the same memory region as another application. With CELL, you can't do that because memory regions are locked down by the application." Publishers are sure to love this feature since it's another way to protect their software, though there might be concern on the development end with how much processing power this takes. For gamers that indulge in pirated goods, it looks like the PlayStation 3 will be the toughest console to crack to date.
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RemyK313
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25. May 2005 @ 13:11 |
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Hmm, guess I'll have to look into that one.
I'm sure that a boot disc will be able to be made.
There have been boot discs for a decade now.
Anyways, security features are always something that developers falsely pride themselves on. I'm sure once enough information is gathered, our brilliant communities will have a plan of attack ready by the time the console launches.
You know how I've said piracy groups nowadays are lacking, the true titles will emerge when this new console comes out, as all the lamers who DVD Decrypt and distro over networks will be completely oveshadowed by brilliant people who are actually able to crack.
But yeah, the info on the Blu-Ray is some pretty neat stuff.
I say we all wait for people to work out solutions before we go out and buy first generation burners.
Pirates have their own testers, so we shouldn't have to do that for them, for us, we just need to wait, let them work it out, and then propagate the info to everyone we can. That's what we do :)
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Freddy_C
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20. July 2005 @ 15:54 |
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One thing about this HDTV thing I'm worried about is that it'll do nothing at all on my TV screens, I have a nice 32" widescreen TV, but not a HDTV. I know some say you don't need a HDTV to see the difference, but I think you do.
It's be a LONG time before HDTV are mainstream in the UK.
BTW, does can a projector mimic HDTV reasonably, or do you get HD projectors?
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InMaChip
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21. July 2005 @ 19:20 |
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thx 4 the awesome site
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InMaChip
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21. July 2005 @ 19:21 |
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sry wrong tread
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20. April 2009 @ 19:02 |
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SOrry if this doesnt make sence, but wasnt there a method to run PS3 backups on early Firmwares where by you insert the original game into the PS3, then you remove the PS3 hard drive freezing the PS3, almost, then u remove the PS3 disc and insert the backup, then u let it run for abit then you insert the Hard drive and press X to launch the game and it would launch because what you're doing is tricking the PS3 into thiking there is an original game in the drive so after all the security checks it standsby for the user to press play on the pS3... same thing happend when i tried to run FEAR but on a DVD, and tht didnt work because when i insterted the original FEAR Blu ray , it registered as a bluray or was using a bluray laser, not a DVD laser to read the disc, so when i inserted the DVD, the bluray laser wasnt able to read the DVD so it produced an error...Never tried backing up a bluray... wasnt there somehting like that, same thing for PS2/PS1, xcept that all got patched up ....
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DTN107
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21. April 2009 @ 05:38 |
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Whoa!
Blast from the PAST!
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21. April 2009 @ 11:37 |
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INdeed, an interesting blast from the past, tho something like that might return, tho i can guarantee that sony will think of a way to patch the " hard drive Freeze", instead of make it freeze, the system will run on some flash chip on the Mobo, so tht if u try the hard drive trick, the PS3 wont freeze, or lose concious of what its doing and whats in it, unlike today, with a game inside the PS3, remove the hard drive and when u remove the game, the game still registers on the PS3... pretty interestin... probably debug firmware runs the games like that no problem... i donno someone try that method on Debug firmware...
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