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9. June 2005 @ 04:28 |
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yeah, i've only seen positive things said of the Verb DLs so far,.
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9. June 2005 @ 09:56 |
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I really haven't had a need for DL media yet. Most my vidio folders, after editing with DVDRemake are 7000-7500 mb which RB/CCE can handle nicely without any noticeable loss in vidio quality on my 52" big screen. If some more movies come out like LOTR for example that are larger than 8000 mb then I might try some DL media. Right now I'm very content useing RB/CCE and DVD5 media. No offence to anyone, just my out look.
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9. June 2005 @ 10:51 |
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Right now dual layer media is too expensive to use very regularly, and for the most part I will stick with single layer, I do movie only and have not experienced much video quality loss, but for a large movie it is nice to know what my burner is capable of, that this format will play on my standalones, and that the media is good :~)
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9. June 2005 @ 19:20 |
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i will have to agree with my buddies here on page 2~ :) the DL media IS pricey, but, i wanted to see if they live up to their expectations/claims for the purpose of the LARGE movies~ :)
i have still managed to compress larger movies down to a single layer with very little loss of quality in terms of playback, but, would like to see personally if the video quality is noticeably better on the DL media IF compression is very high...over 50% would be my benchmark as to what i consider "high compression", i just did one of my foreign films at 55% compression on shrink and i can personally notice the difference in quality from the original to my backup~ im just curious to see if i use a DL disc in the future, would it be better quality...im sure it will, but, in the meantime, i think i will take the advice of the 3 buddies above me and wait on the DL~ :P
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20. June 2005 @ 18:51 |
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I can give a good word about verbatim too. Their DVD-R and dual layer a flawless for me so far. As far as CD-R goes, Imation CD-Rs don't seem to have the same sound quality as my TDK CD-R. It's very noticable on high powered sound systems. Both my truck and 6.1 surround at home, sound weak (bass especially) when pushing loudness off a burned Imation.
Dual layer, not neccesity. I just take the movie (title 1) off and put it, 97% of the time it's completely uncompressed in 5.1 and DTS on a 4.7GB -R. I think paying $5 for a DL so you can have special features is a joke. You can get a 100 pack spindle of Verbatim DVD-R 4.7GB for $49.50 shipped for free.
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Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
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25. June 2005 @ 05:43 |
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ok...... I read and learned lots about Verbatums and TYs..... which are the ones I use.........but I haven't heard anything about Sony..... I use those too. No they aren't the immitations and they burn real good........ never a coaster! but since I got the TYs I stick with them.When I first started I used to use Memorex and I thought it was my burner or my software that was going wrong and making he disk skip and pixilate..... but since I joined the forums I know better now. TYs are great and that's my prefered disk. Verbs are good too and so are Sony's.
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25. June 2005 @ 05:49 |
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i don't read much about Sony's, i guess for one cus they're probably pretty much very good quality so you don't see many problems with them, plus they're probably more expensive than most other stuff, and for me personally i just don't see them sold in many places/websites.
Verbatim's however, are everywhere, well talked about (and not from ppl having many problems with them), and cus they're cheap too
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25. June 2005 @ 06:15 |
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You can pick up Sony's on sale for the same price a Verbatims, usually CompUSA has them 50 for 20.00. :~)
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25. June 2005 @ 06:16 |
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cool, not round here tho :(
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25. June 2005 @ 06:38 |
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I bought mine at OfficeMax or OfficeDepot and Circut City and CompUSA. they are there if you look for them. Not one prob with any Sony disks. but I use TYs now...... they seem to be great for me! and they do have sales on them onine!
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25. June 2005 @ 11:50 |
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sonys are good. i started using them along with verbatim a few months ago. they are both sold locally. maybe ty will get something around here before long, i cant wait to try them.
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25. June 2005 @ 13:01 |
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27. June 2005 @ 21:16 |
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Howdy everyone,
I didn't have anything to add up until now BUT I was given 2, 3-packs of Memorex DL discs recently so I thought I'd try them out ~ ~
(Why, Ooohhh why, do pple always buy Memorex for gifts ?)
Ooohhh well, I can hear it now, "WoW, ScubaPete is going on a Memorex kick again."
With the cost of dual-layered discs today I wish I had something positive to add, and then again, most everyone was expecting something negative, Imagine that ?
Sorry to say, you're correct-a-mundo, . . . . .
Well, I fired up my trusty Pioneer 109 and prepared to do battle with my brand new Dual-layered Memorex in hand along with my favorite Verbatim DL in case a comparison was needed. What are the rules ? Easy enough, all DVD's were on my HD in a VIDEO_TS folder, ready to go, using my trusty DVD Shrink with the Target DVD Size set to DVD-9 or 8124MB the backup set to burn with Nero.
I'm ready, let's do it, . . . . .
First on deck in the starting position:
The Exorcist, ~ The Beginning (Which was burned without gremlin to be found giving me a perfect 1:1 copy)
Pearl Harbor ~ (Again, no bombs or anti-disc devices to stop me from getting another 1:1 copy - 2 in a row, should I should buy a lotto ticket ? :)
Alien Vs. Predator ~ (Run for the hills, I'm the man with the golden arm, Memorex delivered another good backup, God is in his Heaven and all is right with the world.)
My next project was to burn was the full (flipper) version of that classic, Goodfellows. About 14GB plus a bit between both sides. Could I have gone too far ? ~ at approx 47% my Pioneer spit out "Goodfellows" about the same point as the bartender was shot dead during a Wise-guy poker party. Could it be a problem burning violence ? I put both halves on my HD and then joined them together using DVD2One ~ it should work, right ? I tried the exact same task with a trusty Verbatim DL in hand and clicked, "OK". it burned flawlessly. Perhaps a fluke ? (No. not the fishy kind, the kind that seems more quirky :)
Let's do one I had on my shelf for awhile, Steven King's, Rose Red, a 2-disc TV Special presentation. Again, close to the same size as Goodfellows. Once again, Memorex shut down about where I would expect the second layer transition to begin. So, once again, I inserted a Verbatim and once more, I was rewarded with a picture perfect burn from beginning to end.
What's up with this ?
What is the problem with Memorex ?
Again, let's go back to the non-compression, 1:1 backups.
For my last Memorex I chose to backup National Treasure, again from my HD.
Finally, Memorex went from start to finish without a burp.
Could it be it has trouble with a compressed backup ? No, that's ridiculous, coincidence at the most. Memorex is merely demonstrating its well-deserved reputation, its inconsistent quality.
Out of the 2, 3-packs, I got 4 good burns and 2, yes 2, very, very expensive coasters. Just for the record, both DL discs failed at the 47% - 49% mark of burning process. Both quit around the layer break transition. (What's up with that ?) . A 3-pack of Memorex DL discs costs about $15.99 (USD) including 6% sales tax) Man am I glad it wasn't my $$$$. Though the prices have dropped in the year since DL became available this stuff is still too expensive to gamble with OR to suffer that high a failure rate. In case you didn't do the math, though the discs are less $5.00ea. (USD), it still comes out to be a 33% failure rate costing about $10.60 (USD) for both discs. One word for that, it's UNACCEPTABLE !
Yes, it's only 6-discs ~ not much of a test but then, I'm not made of money. How many $10.00 bills can you afford to waste ? As I said, this is more of my opinion than a test of any substance However, I would like to state that I've burned over 70 DL discs to date. Not counting the past 2 evenings.
My 2-cents, forget Memorex for either regular OR DL discs. They just can't seem to get the media thing right. Sorry, but IMHO, they just aren't worth it !!
Others I've used are:
Verbatim ~ I've used about 50 so far and I think they're excellent !!
RiData ~ They've burned well also though I have gone through less than 20, I haven't had a dud to date and they read the same as the Memorex. Go Figure, Huh ?
You have my thoughts, I'd like to hear yours ~
Pete
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27. June 2005 @ 22:33 |
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nicely explained as ever Scubapete. I personally have no need for DL, and don't think i will ever will. If cost was to come right down and film sizes stay the same on a disc i'll stick with single layer. However i follow anything DL-related with interest and am more than content that you and others will do the quality testing on my behalf!.
For me i'm simply happy enough that Verbatim are continuing to keep their reputation consistent with what we've come to expect, and funnily enough a certain other company mentioned in your post is also being consistent with what we've come to expect!.
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27. June 2005 @ 23:19 |
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well, i for one am very glad to have read such an informative "opinion"-conclusion of yours scubapete~ :) i've come to gather quite a bit of info lately regarding media and have chosen to ignore some of the obvious attacks against me lately...for those that have come to rely on my suggestions regarding media, lately, there have been a FEW newbies who have taken it upon themselves to insult me in a clever way, while being entirely TOO sarcastic in a demeaning way just because they simply do not agree with my OPINION~
sorry for the small rant, but, as a few of my buddies have brought these "newbies" to my attention, i feel it not worth my time to even respond to their insults thrown at me; i feel i am better than that...but, i agree entirely with scubapete's small test, memorex has once again shown that their reputation still holds steadfast, as being one of the MOST unreliable/inconsistent media selling companies out there...
and to the newbies that want to start something with me personally, thinking that your clever disguise by hiding your resentment towards me by being sarcastic in your posts ( you know damn well who you are), grow up~!! don't hate me because i have worked very hard in my life to obtain what i have now, just because i can afford the "nicer things in life" gives you no right to judge me~ what good does it do to blatantly slander me when you don't even know me? am i taking your rude comments a little TOO seriously, perhaps, but, i just don't appreciate being bad mouthed for no apparant reason other than the fact you are either 1.envious/spiteful because i am in a "higher tax bracket" (in your own words) than you, 2. you disagree with my opinion about media because EVERYONE KNOWS that YOUR opinion is the ONLY one that counts and ALL OTHERS should be considered non-viable as they do not agree with your own.
i really should be the "bigger man" about this and not take your comments seriously, as this IS a public forum, and i respect EVERYONE's opinion on matters regardless if i agree or not; but for you to take it to another level towards me personally, i will see you in Hell~ (this totally off comment remark is NOT regarding anyone in this thread to make it clear...i was just deeply offended by some newbie in a different thread who went as far as to insult me personally) because of what i currently own or use~
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Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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27. June 2005 @ 23:28 |
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A couple of months or so ago I tried a 3 pack of Verbatim DL. 3 for $30.00. I was just curious to try them but there's no way I would use them regularly. At the time I was using a Lite-On SOHW-1633S. I burned the first one using DVD Shrink and Nero. It would play fine on the computer, but my DVD player said it was an invalid format. I burned another one using DVD Decrypter-ISO read and ISO write and it worked perfect. Later I burned the last one with a DVR-109 and DVD Decrypter. No problems there either. It was rather dissapointing to have my first one be a $10.00 coaster. The only reason I would care to use DL is I like to keep the DTS audio. It normally takes up too much room on a DVD 5. On most movies if I keep the DTS, Shrink will drop it down to 40% or less and that's not acceptable. So I usually don't keep it. I'll just keep on doing without them untill the price gets a whole lot lower (like $2.00) and inkjet printables get a little more common. Incidentally, if you live near a Sam's Club they are selling Verbatim 16X -R or +R inkjet printable for something like $41.62 for 100. They're not hub printable (i.d. around 35mm), but they sure burn good.
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28. June 2005 @ 03:03 |
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first my thoughts on ScubaPete........ wow! you da man! very good and informative even with just your 6 disk test! You're right, of course that it is Unacceptable! I used to use Memorex when I didn't know better ....... and I recently watched some old movies I burned long ago with Memorex (2or maybe 3 yrs ago) and it still is running good! But to have so many inconsistencies is very much UNACCEPTABLE!
kivory-----why do you take some people to heart!? If some one doesn't like your advise just dismiss them for who/what they are... IGNORANT BASTARDS! You seem to know your stuff! Don't let a few bad apples tilt the cart.
so inconclusion .......Memorex should be banned from sale to the public and Verbatum and Taiyo Yudens are the best! Now if everyone can see this thread and buy the right stuff and THEN if they have probs YOU KNOW IT'S NOT THE MEDIA! :-)
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28. June 2005 @ 07:22 |
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Thanks, Scuba Pete for the information, glad to see a comparison done between the dual layers. Since they are so expensive, I decided to bypass the Memorex because I did not want any coasters. I have burned 25 dual layers now and have used Verbatim and Ridata and both have come through with flying colors, the playback was perfect and they tested out excellent on PlexTools. You can pick up the Verbatim dual layers for 18.99 a 3 pack at WlaMart, still pricey but not that much more than the Memorex, and way better quality.
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28. June 2005 @ 07:23 |
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:) ihoe~ im just a softy i guess~ LOL
wish everyone could see this thread and then post relevant questions IF they have problems later...it would make things a LOT easier~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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4. July 2005 @ 15:06 |
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@arniebear
ok, being the newbie i am, why don't you want to compress them down to 50% or so? i just did that with all 3 LOTR's, watched them on a 57" HD front projection hitachi and they looked great(was a little higher than 50%, but not much). what am i missing?
also, depending on what happens with blu-ray, those dual layer dvd's will probably drop in price quickly once the blu-ray goes mainstream.
blu ray http://www.supermediastore.com/blue-ray-blu-ray-dvd-media-recorde...
per the memorex, well, i quickly found out what a coaster is... have had excellent success with the ty's you recommended.
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4. July 2005 @ 15:25 |
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Take it from me... Lets just say I was a jerk on this forum at one point. I did not think there was a big difference in media brands. Until i went back to my memorex, tdk,cmc, and compusa branded media and they did not work anymore. I lost about 50 movies because of my stupidity. Do yourself a favor, buy good media or don't buy any at all. Honestly, I would rather have no media then any of the others I just mentioned.
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4. July 2005 @ 15:33 |
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4. July 2005 @ 15:36 |
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not when it is cmc in a tdk spindle...that is what has happenned to me.... or other bad brands lableled tdk..to each is own of course :-)
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Vote with Your Dollars, Don't Buy Sony Products!
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@nohelpme.... I believe you! I just took out an old MEMOREX disk of mine that I backed up Men In Black II..... it's supposed to be cmc crap!!!! but check out DVDInfo Pro:
it's as bad as Riteks and I also got the same Manufacture ID for some Old Verbatim datalifeplus disks dating back to 12/02 and 3/03!! Soooooo I'm sticking to my TYs!!! and I'll find some Maxells! Fortunatly these old disks don't have reading errors and still play great in my DVD standalone!
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IHoe - the problem with TDK is that they use differing manufacturers, and the average man on the street won't know which media code they will end up with. Other brands do this to. I personally (like a stuck record i know!) stick to Verbatim datalifeplus, and recommend the same, to others. I wo'nt chance my limited money on questionable or possible good disks. I leave that to others, i have no need to test many other media as i can lean on other people's testing on this and other sites.
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