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6. July 2005 @ 03:46 |
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that's certainly what it sounds like to me..
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6. July 2005 @ 04:13 |
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unless there are others out there that are not reporting bad burns with TYs and Verbs....we can only assume that his burner is the prob!
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jimex289
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6. July 2005 @ 06:42 |
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Heh, I guess you can't expect every Verbatim and TY to be good, there will always be defects somewhere but that doesn't mean Verbatim is crap, same with TY.
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6. July 2005 @ 06:45 |
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the word "crap" need not be in the same sentence as "TY or Verbs"~ that would be a contradiction of terms~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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jimex289
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6. July 2005 @ 10:17 |
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*Warning* For all those who buy Verbatim CD-R, be careful of the ones you buy. I just brought a 100 pack spindle and they turned out to be manufactured by...............CMC Magnetics! The 50 pack I have here is by Mitsubishi. Watch out for the CMC, I can't believe they would be the OEM for Verbatim ~_~.
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6. July 2005 @ 10:19 |
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Oh, CD-R... Had me worried for a minute...
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jimex289
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6. July 2005 @ 10:25 |
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Hehe yeah, what would the world come to if CMC was also OEM for some Verbatim DVD-+R ;P. I'm going to return these right now and get a 50 pck, hopefully by Mitsubishi, a great Japanese OEM like Taiyo Yuden.
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forkndave
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6. July 2005 @ 12:33 |
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I very well probably do have a flakey burner. However, the bad burn example I showed above was a bad disc. I believe that the batch of TYs I got has a more than usual number of defects. The problem that I've had with the burner locking up at 10% is more than likely the burner. I seem to have better luck with the Verbs. On the last Verbs I've got, I sometimes find little pink spots on the data side that causes problems. There's not a lot of them, but it just seems to me that quality control is starting to slide on most of the brands anymore. I have 3 burners, all different brands, and have had problem discs with them all. It's just that the Pioneer is my favorite and it seems to be the most picky. Another thing is that I only use printable DVDs. For some reason the printables seem to have more defects, or at least that's been my observation. It's still a lot better than putting labels on them. I just don't care for marking a disc with a sharpie. Vanity, I guess.
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6. July 2005 @ 16:26 |
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fork..... just get new disks and try again..... if that doesn't work..... Verbatim and Tys? try sony! then if they don't work your burner is the prob!
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forkndave
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6. July 2005 @ 19:00 |
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I'm not about to throw over $150.00 of DVDs away. I was just making a comment about some problems I've had with some TYs and Verbatims. I'm not saying they're no good. I don't believe my burner will make pink spots on some of the Verbatims. I have 3 burners and ocaisionally any of them will reject a disc. The Pioneer is just more picky, that's all. It normally has excellent burns. I don't think I would have any lock up problems if I would burn all of my TYs at 6X so that there wouldn't be a speed shift. It's just that I have to save that 2 minutes out of maybe an hour and a half process, I guess.
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6. July 2005 @ 19:08 |
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Dave...... I burn my Taiyo Yuden DVD+R 8X at 16X!!! I have NO PROBLEMS AS OF YET..... OVER 25 THAT WAY NOW AND i STILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS........ but I did lower the speed as I have been told by others the slower is better so that's what I am doing! I haven't had a bad burn in over two Months now..... since I joined aD! I just went out and got 50 Verbatim spool (All MCC) and I also got a 50 spool of Sony (Yuden000T02) both are DVD+R 8x! These disks are top notch...... do you have DVDidentifier or DVDInfoPro they will tell you the Manufacturer ID and here is a link to what that ID means!
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
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forkndave
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6. July 2005 @ 20:10 |
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Yes, My TYs are TYG02, My Verb -R are MCC03RG20 and my +R are MCC 004. The TYs are 8X and the Verbs are 16X. My Pioneer offers to burn the TYs at 12X. However, sometimes it only will burn at 8X even if 12X is selected. It apparently checks the disc quality before it starts to burn. I can tell if it's going to burn at 12X because if it doesn't it will take over a minute for the lead in. When it does burn at 12X the quality seems as good as 8X. The PI/PIF scans are comparable. I guess I'm not really having that many problems. It's just that when I saw that one that was really horrible, I got sort of steamed because it was a TY and I didn't expect that. My Pioneer burner will sometimes give me a coaster if I burn TY at 8X or above. It usually doesn't, though. I've gone through hundreds of Prodisc and Ritek with almost no coasters and I just figured that better discs would be better. I've had no longevity problems with Prodisc, but I have had some with Ritek. BeAll is complete crap as for as I'm concerned. I have used Sony, but not in a long time due to the unavailability of printable discs. I get the Verbs at a good price, so I'll probably keep on using them. I probably won't buy amy more TY after these are gone due to the price and the poor printing surface.. The TY were $61.00 plus shipping for a hundred and I can buy the Verbs here locally for something like $41.62 a hundred. I think I'm just running this thread into the ground.
Dave
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jimex289
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6. July 2005 @ 20:12 |
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Doesn't it seem interesting, if you look at the dvd media page, there is an "exception" to the Taiwan rule. It seems that media from TDK and Mitsubishi have been relocated to be produced in Taiwan with possible OEM's being CMC Magnetics. "It has been confirmed that the geographic relocation hasn't affected their quality."
Exceptions to the "Taiwan" rule: Not too long ago, Mitsubishi and TDK moved their operations to Taiwan. In fact, some of it apparently is being made in CMC Magnetics plants. However, because MCC and TDK are still using the same high quality methods and materials (this has been confirmed by a Verbatim spokesman), this geographic relocation has not affected the quality of their products.
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6. July 2005 @ 22:45 |
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@forkndave - can't you try lower speed, ie the proverbial 4x ?. i did try 8x for a little while but it's just not worth redoing stuff later or the cost of wasted discs. So now i'm sticking to 4x for as long as is necessary to achive faultless burns
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forkndave
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6. July 2005 @ 23:56 |
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I suppose I could, I guess, but I've always gotten lower PI/PIF scans when I burn at 6X than I do at 4X. I guess I must have made this sound like a bigger problem than it is. The disc that I had the real bad scan with was a bad disc. Occasionally my burner will not shift from 6X to 8X with a TY disc. About 1 out of every 10 discs (TY) do this. This is apparently a fault of the burner. What I can do is just burn the TY on one of my other burners. The LG is faster than the Pioneer anyway, although it won't burn the TY any faster than 8X. That doesn't really bother me. I only burn at 12X or 16X when I get new discs to see how they work. As far as the couple of Verbs that I've noticed pink spots on there's nothing I can do about that. If there are any bad discs out there I seem to have the ability to attract them. I've ordered sampler sets of DVDs and they would all be good. When I would order some they would be crap. I think this is related to Murphy's Law.
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7. July 2005 @ 00:11 |
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i'm just lucky. which is a good job as i only got the one burner :)
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7. July 2005 @ 04:38 |
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I just got a spool of 50 Verbatim and Sony disks. the Verbs are MCC made in Taiwan, while the Sony is made in Japan by Taiyo Yuden! Here's something interesting....on the label of the Verbs it says, "up to 12x compatible" when these disks are 8x! I used both disks last night flawlessly burning at 4X. Very high quality disks! I usually only get TYs but I couldn't resist the pricing of 19.95 for 50 Verbs! The Sony was higher and I never had them so I wanted to buy them anyways. Glad I did! Now if the DLs would just go lower.... guess we will have to wait for the Blue-Ray and HD-DVD to come out and drive the pricing down!
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7. July 2005 @ 04:49 |
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@IHoe - glad youy've eased off the TY a little and sampled the quality of Verbs!. i've just ordered some more - 125 8x Verbs and 25 16x as i hadn't tried any 16x yet
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7. July 2005 @ 05:06 |
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Creaky..... I had Verbs before, 3 yrs ago! their manufacture ID was RicohJpn then! And I had some sony's back then too, but just had like a 3 pack of them! the Sony's are TYs! LOL I guess I like them that much better! ahahhahahaha still on the TY kick! But these disks are top shelf! and burning at 4x now should make them last 30-100 yrs like they should! right????? let's hope! 
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7. July 2005 @ 05:09 |
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oh yeah i remember you saying that you'd used Verbs before. It's cus you look to be as bad as me, ie posting-crazy. i often chase my own tail in threads as i've always got so many on the go :)
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7. July 2005 @ 05:18 |
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I honestly don't expect any media to last more then 15 years. But then again we are all technology freaks and would never stay with any medium that long lol. Soon we will all be upgrading to dual layer then to what ever 20 gig plus format they decide on....either hd disk or blue ray.
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7. July 2005 @ 05:35 |
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jimex289
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7. July 2005 @ 12:30 |
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Just noticed this by scanning Verb DVD+R. The manufacturer says Verbatim, the code is MCC. Does that mean its manufactured by MCC? I'm confused now.
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7. July 2005 @ 12:36 |
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MCC are top quality manufacturers. MCC (Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation) is the parent company of MKM (Mitsubishi Kagaku Media), which in turn is the parent company of Verbatim.
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7. July 2005 @ 12:37 |
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MCC = Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation, the parent company of Verbatim.
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