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slowing down dvd shrink
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ferral4
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31. May 2005 @ 16:46 |
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hi can any help me i can only burn at 4x or max how can i slow it do to 2x when it does not appear im using dvd shrink 3.2 and the lastest nero and help would be greatful and i have unistilled dvd shrink and reinstilled it
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31. May 2005 @ 17:20 |
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your burn speed in Shrink/Nero is down to a combination of your writer &/or media you are using. Ive got some Printable Ritek G05 at the moment & my Sony writer will write them at 4x & 8x, but my external Emprex writer will write them at 2x, 4x, 6x & 8x.. if you get some decent 4x (Ritek, ProDisc, Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden etc.) media you should be able to burn them at 2x, no problem.
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ferral4
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31. May 2005 @ 17:31 |
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thanks big pants i use to be able to burn slow with a branded call laser but since i got these others i have had nothing but trouble like wont play in other dvd players and they start getting real shit picture in the middle or at the end i have got some new ones called aki dvd-r 1-4x multispeed should these burn slow in dvd shrink
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31. May 2005 @ 18:06 |
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not sure, havent heard of them. give them a try though! if youre looking for a cheap disc for your burns try DataWrite (Yellow or Grey ones, not the Red ones, Ive had many probs with DataWrite Red). theyre pretty good. the 4x or 8x will most probably burn at 2x if you want them to.
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ferral4
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31. May 2005 @ 18:32 |
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thanks bigpantz another problem i have is that shrink frezzes when it is encoding what could be causing this problem and how can i fix this problems or is this to with the media that im using thanks
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1. June 2005 @ 04:31 |
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Encoding problems are not down to blank media, that'll normally be down to the movie you are trying to encode. does shrink freeze with every movie you try to encode or are you having problems with a particuar film?
another good program to try is DVD Decrypter & its free, just like shrink. its more of a ripping tool than anything else, if i get any probs with shrink doing its job i do this :-
-Rip the film to your hard drive as an ISO image with Decrypter
-open up shrink, go file, open disc image, select ISO image
-encode movie with shrink & you can either burn it out with Nero or DVD Decrypter.
Here are the guides for using decrypter & shrink, they can probably explain better than i can..
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/small_dvd_2_dvdr.cfm
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd9_to_dvdr_with_dvd_shr...
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1. June 2005 @ 05:08 |
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I agree you should get DVDDecrypter, there are several problematic movies that Shrink cannot handle. Also, as an alternative you can rip your movie in file mode with Decrypter and use Nero Recode to encode and burn, this will allow you to choose your burn speed. I think Recode is faster than Shrink, and does a really good job. There is a guide available below on this process.
http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/petesguide5.html
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ferral4
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1. June 2005 @ 14:27 |
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thanks people i have got DVD Decrypter and have use it to rip my movies it dose a good job i just preferred DVD Shrink but if that is the case i will just uninstall DVD Shrink thanks people
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1. June 2005 @ 15:28 |
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I wouldn't uninstall Shrink, you never know when you will need it, it is always good to have a backup program, and Shrink is free. My two cents :~)
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ferral4
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1. June 2005 @ 17:22 |
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i tryed using Nero recode but it would only me to burn at 4x or max this is the same problem with DVD Shrink and when i do it in DVD Decrypter it will only burn at 4x or higher even know that i set it to write at 2.4x
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1. June 2005 @ 23:27 |
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@ferral4 - sounds like your dvd burner needs newer firmware. let us have your drive specs
As for DVD Shrink, as arniebear say, don't give up on it. The author has moved on to other things, aka Nero Recode, so no more updates to Shrink, BUT it depends what you use it for. I predominately use Shrink, and have done since i got into DVD burning. I only ever do movie-only myself which is why i have better success than most who have trouble with protections. The handful of films with newer encryptions i've simply used DVD Decrypter as the author lightning uk has been keeping it bang up to date with the newer encryptions. Plus he's always heavily involved on the official decrypter site making sure those newer encryptions are kept at bay
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ferral4
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2. June 2005 @ 01:29 |
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my dvd burner is a liteon 1633s i have updated the firm ware for it. i only burn dvd movies in DVD Shrink, i also burnt a movie today that burnt at 2.4x the disc that i have got now are aki 1-4x multispeed i have a amd 2600+ 750mb ram and a 40gb and 30gb hard drive
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2. June 2005 @ 01:36 |
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ok, i've re-read this thread a couple times. Just noticed you seem to be using media called Laser. It would appear to be atrocious media -
Laser DVD+R 8x *Special 10 Spindle* (MCC003) Rl..c
Laser DVD+RW 2.4x (...........)
Laser DVD-R 2x (MXL RG01....)
Laser DVD-R 4x (AML.........)
Laser DVD-R 4x (AN31........)
Laser DVD-R 4x (AN32........)
Laser DVD-R 4x (PRINCO......)
Laser DVD-R 4x (VANGUARD....)
Laser DVD-R 8x (TYG02) ??FAKE??
And as for 'aki' media, haven't heard of those...hmmmmm.....my bad media sensor is tingling.....
Try this; download dvdinfopro (free trial) and run media info; this will give you the media details (including the media id code, that's in brackets above). Copy/paste the results here, though whatever code you do have, it would seem that all laser are of mediocre quality at best
ps classic symptom of freezing and skipping movies, is bad media (get better media)
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ferral4
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2. June 2005 @ 02:50 |
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Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
this is one of the disc that i have these are the old ones that i dont use any more
Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 ...............0
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 13 02 4A 71 02 90 66 16 16 01.8#T7..Jq..f..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 1C 1E 0B 0C 12 12 01 00 00 00 00 ..............
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ferral4
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2. June 2005 @ 02:53 |
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these are the new disc that use
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID SKC Co.,Ltd.
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 0B
2x Speed OPC power 14
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 07
4x Speed OPC power 1C
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0A 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 07 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 C0 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1C
4x Write Strategy field 4 13 A8 88 65
4x Write Strategy field 5 98 9A 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 88 0D 13 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 53 4B 43 20 43 6F 00 04 2E 2C 4C fx...SKC Co...,L
00000020 74 64 2E 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 14 11 td..............
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2. June 2005 @ 03:25 |
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@ferral4 - going from that info, this is the best i can come up with so far..
from the old media -
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Media code/Manufacturer ID 001
- good grief '001' is an odd media code!
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Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 ...............0
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 13 02 4A 71 02 90 66 16 16 01.8#T7..Jq..f..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 1C 1E 0B 0C 12 12 01 00 00 00 00 ..............
- there's the '001' media code... hmmmm... don't sound very good..
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Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
- oops - that's no good i don't think
the nearest thing i could find was - http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=78541
from the new media -
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Media code/Manufacturer ID SKC Co.,Ltd.
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Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 88 0D 13 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 53 4B 43 20 43 6F 00 04 2E 2C 4C fx...SKC Co...,L
00000020 74 64 2E 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 14 11 td..............
- found a couple of, well, not so flattering remarks re Laser discs -
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=207260&p=84
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/148586
methinks you need to try better (brand name) media..
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ferral4
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2. June 2005 @ 03:38 |
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thanks heaps with this will try to get some new disc tomorrow and let you know when i get some and burn on then what disc would u recommend to try
thanks creaky
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2. June 2005 @ 04:19 |
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I would recommend Verbatim (datalifeplus, not just datalife) myself as your Lite-on will love them
Here's a snippet of Verb info (the media code we were talking about earlier is in brackets below).
For example, with the older datalife, most show as made by CMC - most ppl would say these are the worst discs ever made, period. The RicohJapan would probably be very good, but you'd have to be able to find them.
Verbatim DataLife DVD+R 2.4x (CMC MAG.R01)
Verbatim DataLife DVD+R 4x (RICOHJPNR01)
Verbatim DataLife DVD-R 2x (CMC MAG. AF1)
Verbatim DataLife DVD-R 2x (CMC MAG.AF01)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 12x (MCC.....003)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 4x (MCC.....002)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 4x Pastel (YUDEN000-T01-000)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 8x (MCC.....003)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 8x Advanced AZO (MCC.....003)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 8x Printable (MCC 003)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD-R 4x (MCC 01RG20)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD-R 4x (TYG01.......)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD-R 8x Advanced AZO (MCC02RG20)
Now see those datalifeplus - all top quality (the MCC are Mitsubishi Chemical Company, Verb's parent company). The TY and Yuden are Taiyo Yuden so they will be very good. I myself only use the 8x -R Verbs as i've had so much good quality results/compatability ie the -R plays on everything i have used them on. However you would probably be better to go with the +R as you can book-type them with your liteon, to 'appear' as standard dvd-rom discs; this way standalone players will be happier with them as they will think they are standard dvd-rom discs. Here's the spec of your drive which details the various write speeds your drive is capable of on the different formats - http://www.liteon.com/prod/getProduct.do?xml_id=4_2&menu_id=4_2_7...
- a quick look at that seems to show the max +R supported is 16x, and the max -R is 8x. So you'd probably be best off buying 8x +R or even 4x +R if you can still find them.
Others will recommend other discs such as TY etc. I myself only caved in and bought some TY yesterday so have only done half a dozen burns and only tested 2 of them. However they are top quality genuine TY discs, you just you have to be careful where you get them as they are the most faked brand (as are supposed to be the best blank DVDs you can get). I usually stick to Verbs for this reason myself.
Hope that helps
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