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plagued by DVD burning troubles
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11. June 2005 @ 17:05 |
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dametony
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11. June 2005 @ 17:23 |
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mort81,
i downloaded dvd identifier per your suggestions. here is what i got:
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[20:17:36] DVD Identifier V3.6.3.1
[20:17:36] Initializing ASPI/SPTI Drive Interface
[20:17:36] SPTI Drive Interface Successfully Initialized
[20:17:36] 1 Supported Drive Found (Out Of 2 Available Drives)
[20:17:36] Manufacturer Database [10-APR-05@532$80] Loaded From File : (@532$80) Entries Found
[20:17:36] Internet Version Check Postponed Since Last Check Happened Less Than 1 Hour Ago
[20:20:08] DVD+R/+RW Medium Detected. Starting Identification...
[20:20:08] ** Initiating ADIP Retrieval Method 1 (Original ADIP)
[20:20:08] ADIP Read M1 Failed : Illegal request - Invalid field in CDB [05/24/00]
[20:20:08] ADIP Read Method 1 Not Supported ; A Firmware Upgrade Is Recommended
[20:20:08] ** Initiating ADIP Retrieval Method 2 (Copy Of ADIP)
[20:20:08] ADIP Read M2 Failed : Illegal request - Invalid field in CDB [05/24/00]
[20:20:08] ADIP Read Method 2 Requires A Written DVD+R/+RW Disc
[20:20:08] Disc Identification Did Not Complete Successfully
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keep in mind i've also got dvdinfo now, too, so i can use that if needed.
it says a firmware upgrade is recommended -- but i've done that. unless i did it wrong (which is completely possible). i'm currently at 10GE -- is that current? also, why would my firmware suddenly just go "bad"?
thank you in advance for your help.
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11. June 2005 @ 17:27 |
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11. June 2005 @ 17:33 |
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According to the NEC official website for firmware
http://www.de.nec.de/softwareoverview2.php/id/557
Your firmware is wrong you should have 1.A3, no wonder your drive does not work. And considering you can only update from firmware 1.A0 you will have to now figure out how to flash it back.
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11. June 2005 @ 17:40 |
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My guess is you have a bad batch of media. I would suggest trying some new/different media, maybe even some dvd+rw or dvd-rw untill you get things ironed out. If you want to buy local I recommend maxell, fuji (made in japan), or sony.
Verbatum is usually top notch stuff but have been known to buy from some poor manufactures in the past. If you buy verbatum make sure it is datalifeplus or says AZO dye on the package.
I can't guarentee different media will solve your problem but is the most logical place to start judging from your logs and info.
Edit: I would look into arniebears suggestion first. If you have problems flashing back to official f/w, they can probably help you here. http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=86
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11. June 2005 @ 17:57 |
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from your first post
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i've updated firmware on my burner
Why did you go to a site for OEM drives, yours was listed by Nero as an NEC and not a rebadged drive. You need to go to the Official site in the future. This is what gave you and everyone else grief :~)
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11. June 2005 @ 18:39 |
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okay, now i'm totally lost. what's my next step, here?
keeping in mind that i don't even know what firmware *is*...
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Your firmware is wrong you should have 1.A3, no wonder your drive does not work. And considering you can only update from firmware 1.A0 you will have to now figure out how to flash it back.
if i ever changed/updated firmware, i just took advice from whoever seemed trustworthy on a site like this -- so this is why i'm leery, because now i'm being told that i'm screwed, apparently. happy day!
i don't know how i can figure out how to "flash back" at all. i don't know where to start with this. flash back from what?
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Why did you go to a site for OEM drives, yours was listed by Nero as an NEC and not a rebadged drive. You need to go to the Official site in the future. This is what gave you and everyone else grief :~)
jeez, i don't even know what an OEM drive is. or what "rebadged" means. all i ever did was follow advice. i never did anything without being told to previously. kinda pisses me off, actually, if someone on a site like this (or maybe this very site) gave me some bad info during my last round of problems.
here's a question, though (and i've asked it here before of creaky): why would my burner just suddenly stop working correctly one day? and what does that have to do with firmware?
to mort81: do you really think it could be media, when i've already made it safely through 3/5 of my current spindle of blanks? also, if it's the media, why am i also having no success doing CD to CDr exact copies, but regular CD's burn fine?
first things first, though -- please, if someone who knows could walk me through this firmware thing, i'd really appreciate it greatly.
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11. June 2005 @ 19:00 |
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okay, quick update:
i went to the dell website, signed in, and went to the "support" section, and looked up the firmware for my burner. the update listed there is currently the "10GE" version, and that's the version that i have installed. i remember now that i updated from the dell site when i was told to update firmware before. so...what now? who's got the correct info, here?
also...i just tried to burn a DVD using my sonic recordnow! software. the burn went through as successful, but my standalone DVD player wouldn't recognize it. that's the reverse of the other night, when i burned a disc with Nero that supposedly failed, but played perfectly in my DVD player.
gosh, i'm so bewildered by all of this.
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11. June 2005 @ 19:14 |
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Try pulling the drive and test it in another PC to determine if it's functioning correctly. Be sure to use the same media as always.
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11. June 2005 @ 19:15 |
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Oem means the burner came with the pc and is not branded with the makers name on the dvdrw. Did your pc come with the NEC drive already installed? If so then it is oem. Did you buy the NEC drive and install it yourself and does it say NEC on the front of the drive? Bear in mind you can also buy oem drives and install them yourself, they just don't have the brand name on the front but are still oem and usually use different f/w.
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11. June 2005 @ 19:24 |
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yes, the burner came preinstalled in my dell computer.
should i disregard arniebear's comments, then?
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11. June 2005 @ 19:39 |
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Try pulling the drive and test it in another PC to determine if it's functioning correctly. Be sure to use the same media as always.
i would have no idea how to do any of this. i'm a newbie!
i think it may be time to call in the geek squad or something.
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11. June 2005 @ 19:48 |
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one more post -- i'm just trying to give you as much info as i can -- my recorder won't recognize or erase DVD+RW's at all anymore. they worked when i first got my computer, but now the drive seemingly doesn't even know they're there.
just some info that might help.
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To Dametony
Try another recorder in your system, if another recorder works then its yours thats bad or try your recorder in someone elses computer.
I use Nero but only for burning music CDS and data, i find it very good and easy to use. I also find that alot of software you don't need to play with to much to get your results. Maybe you changed a setting that was for something else and you need to uninstall and reinstall.
I also said for making my DVD movies that i use a program called InterVideo WInDVD Creator. It converts your movies for you into AVI or another format if you like. It will burn them onto your dvd disc or hard drive and the nice thing about it is if it won't work because of a flaw in your movie it won't burn anything onto your DVD and waste one on you. It will join clips together so it will be one movie but you also have the choice of selecting chapters after you put the DVD in your player. You can customize your labels almost anyway you want.
I have had problems in the past but i find with some imagination i solve most problems easily enough.
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12. June 2005 @ 04:35 |
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I've been thru this the thread, plus the latest replies about firmware etc, and have the following to offer -->
I know there's still a question as to whether or not the correct firmware has been applied, and that might explain why dvdinfopro can't properly report on the disc. Here's what you posted earlier -
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Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Manufacturer ID cannot be read
Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type Unknown
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
snippet from 'Nice List of DVD Media and Codes' (list is not complete or up to date but it's a very good reference) - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431 -
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Verbatim DataLife DVD+R 2.4x (CMC MAG.R01)
Verbatim DVD+R 2.4x (MCC 001)
Going from these 2 lines from your dvdinfopro output -
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Media Type DVD+R
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
- your media 'may' be one of these -
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Verbatim DataLife DVD+R 2.4x (CMC MAG.R01)
Verbatim DVD+R 2.4x (MCC 001)
- CMC are the absolute pits when it comes to DVD manufacturer's, whereas MCC are top quality manufacturers. MCC (Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation) is the parent company of MKM (Mitsubishi Kagaku Media), which in turn is the parent company of Verbatim.
- However i don't know if we can trust dvdinfopro's output here purely because of the possibility of incorrect firmware being in place.
dvdinfopro output from one of my Verbatim 8x DVD-R that's been written to -
Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID MCC 02RG20
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name New
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 6/ 7/2005 19:22:16
Format Capacity 3.43GB(3.68GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 0D
2x Write Strategy field 1 13 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 15
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0B 0A
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 08 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 07
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 19
4x Write Strategy field 4 15 A7 88 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 99 BC AA A2 20 22
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 1B6E0Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0D 10 .l...@....R.....
00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 4D 43 43 20 30 32 00 04 52 47 32 .....MCC 02..RG2
00000020 30 20 20 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0D 13 0 .............
dvdinfopro output from one of my Verbatim 8x DVD-R that hasn't been written to -
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID MCC 02RG20
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 0D
2x Write Strategy field 1 13 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 15
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0B 0A
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 08 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 07
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 19
4x Write Strategy field 4 15 A7 88 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 99 BC AA A2 20 22
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0D 10 .l...@....R.....
00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 4D 43 43 20 30 32 00 04 52 47 32 .....MCC 02..RG2
00000020 30 20 20 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0D 13 0 .............
The media code for my discs is MCC02RG20 as seen above. This is where we can't yet make progress as your drive can't get this far. It could be that your drive has indeed got incorrect firmware.
Firmware is what 'teaches' a drive about makes of media, burn speeds, how to interpret media etc etc, and your drive is just not recognising that media.
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After further research into the firmware and translating a page from a german forum it appears that 10GE is correct firmware for this RPC2 OEM drive.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.tr...
and it is about a year old, and the only update is hacked, a try at your own risk.
Firmware introduces your drive to new disks, if your drive recognizes the media you can write. To quote Scuba Pete
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Firmware
Let's check for up-to-date Firmware for your burner.
"OK, so what is this "Firmware" garbage?"
Fair question. Firmware is a "tutor" who's job it is to "introduce" all the different kinds of media to your burner and to tell your burner a little bit about it. What type of media it is and at what speed to burn it.
As new media is introduced OR, as the manufacturers of your burner find new ways to use it, new Firmware updates come out to "school" your burner, keeping it up-to-date.
Firmware, You can't burn backups without it! Keep yours updated
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How do you know that your burner is dead?
Based on my own experience - here are some clues:
You have done nothing with your computer - no updates of your burning program or similar actions.
You are using the same media as before and even the same spindle of media.
When you insert a DVD - nothing happens and the only thing you hear is a scratch sound.
In Windows Explorer you can see the contents of a CD but not of a DVD.
You can still play and burn CDs.
When you try to burn - it will only reject your inserted media and ask for a blanc disc.
Pick it to pieces and cleaning the laser head don't help.
In my case it happend during a burning. The logfile reported "Power calibration error".
Power calibration error:
Before any write operation, all recorders must do a 15 step power test to determine the optimum power for writing to the DVD; this is called "Optimum Power Calibration"(OPC). During the write, it continues to do this test to get the best write throughout the whole DVD; this is called "Running Optimum Power Calibration" (ROPC).
This whole process 'Power Calibration' is controlled by the recorder, though initiated by programs such as Nero. There is an area on the inner part of the DVD for the test and test data info to be stored. You can use this area up to 999 times.
If you receive the "Power calibration error" or "Power calibration area is (amost) full" error message, the cause will be either poor media, poor power, or a defective recorder
As Neph states try your burner in another PC and see if you have the same problems.
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Just so there's no confusion, arniebear and myself aren't contradicting each other btw, i am just working from what the dvdinfopro output states. The bottom line is the drive just isn't reporting on the media correctly, whether it's right firmware, wrong firmware, old firmware.
An observation (just in case it helps, probably doesn't). The very first post states the drive to be a 1000A. I had a look here - http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=65839 where it states a brief difference between the 1000A and the 1100A -
1000A = 2.4 DVD+R, 2.4 DVD+RW
1100A = 4 DVD+R, 2.4 DVD+RW
From looking here - http://herrie.org/upgrdr.html the 1000A can be morphed into a 1100A or a 1300A, but it's a 50% success rate for either (i interpret the success rate to mean 50% success rate of burning to media at the newer speeds of the 1100A firmware, not 50% chance of the firmware upgrade itself working) . Lacking any mention of 4x writing throughout the thread, or what speed media was used there's only so much i can work out here.
Now i've gone thru the entire thread a couple more times and even though arniebear's link for the year old firmware only mentions an 1100A and not a 1000A that doesn't mean Dell didn't OEM a 1000A drive. Even so, it would appear that whether or not this drive was originally a 1000A or an 1100A is moot. I feel we need more info re the media. Anyone concur or not so far ?
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12. June 2005 @ 08:20 |
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It is media related in the effect that this drive has no up to date firmware and cannot recognize newer media. This is from the Dell site
As you can see this firmware is almost two years old, in that time media has changed, and this drive is not keeping up so you will get a hit/miss on burning. I also agree that there is no mention of 4x writing, my NEC 1300a writes DVD's at 4x but does not like to write at 2.4x on DVD media, it will however do this on DVD-RW fine.
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@arniebear - There doesn't seem to be any massive and guaranteed benefit from the drive being morphed into a 1300A, from your own experience with the 1300A and/or the info on the herrie page i quoted..
so...that would appear to wrap it up then ?
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as entertaining as that was I think it's time for a guide on how to post but that would probably only be helpful to those that need another line in they're sig. because it seems as if none feads them anyways. may be they should give a test before allowing people in.
but then you would have never been able to read this informative post just thought this was a good place to talk about everything off topic
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12. June 2005 @ 16:29 |
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update:
i'm currently able to burn discs in Nero. it tells me that the burn failed every time, but the discs play just fine in my standalone. conversely, i can burn a dvd in recordnow!, and it will tell me that the burn was successful, but when i try to play it in my standalone, it won't work.
i got on the chat line with a dell rep last night, and they had me do some stuff, and they told me that it looks like my burner is shot. and judging by the symptoms that cynthia at digital digest talks about, it sounds like it to me. this was my assumption from the start. i am sure it's not a media issue at all because:
1)i've tried other media
2)computer won't read or erase the very same DVD+RW's that it could read before
3)problems burning CD-to-CDR exact copies
4)the current spindle was working fine until recently
5)i used verbatims when my sonic recordnow! went down, and then when i installed Nero, the discs worked fine again, so it was the software, somehow
6)the discs are burning in Nero even though Nero says they're not
if i'm wrong on any of these assumptions, tell me, but i'm pretty sure i'm going to try a disc cleaner/compressed air approach and then, finally, have the geek squad come and take a look, maybe switch out my burner for another.
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12. June 2005 @ 16:51 |
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I'd say you had the symptoms of a sick or dying burner. My NEC is 1300a which is a step up from yours because it burns both +/- R's. NEC has two lasers in the drive one that burns CD's and one for DVD's. One laser can go but the other can still be functioning. The lack of any kind of update for this burner is also not helpful. There is a total lack of communication between drive and software. My NEC is still being supported so I have not been having a problem, but I was for awhile with certain disks, especially Sony the drive was burning sporadically on disks from the same spindle, until my mfr put up the newer firmware. I just bought a new Plextor as a replacement for the NEC because after almost two years I know it is just a matter of time before it starts showing signs of old age. You can still try swapping the drive out to another computer and see how it does, or start looking for another.
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12. June 2005 @ 18:03 |
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@creaky - arniebear - Mort81 - et al
This was a damn fine entertaining (frustrating for some)thread. My son recently through some of the same symptons with his burner. Dell would not replace it because it was 2 days (that's right) out of warranty. They told him it was because they do not support any burning software other than Roxio. Told them he wasn't using Roxio and the burner simply quit burning. Bought him the NEC3520A from New Egg for $46. Dell can kiss my rosy, red @ss.
Anyway, you guys have a lot more patience(sp?) than me.
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12. June 2005 @ 18:14 |
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When I purchased my Dell I specifically did not have a DVD burner put in, because you do not know what you will get. Better to buy the drive yourself, and do your own setup. Less of a hassle and you will get a whole lot better burner. The only call I made to Dell ended up with me reformating with little help from their service dept. So I to stay away from Dell. My two cents :~)
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@tsquare43 - cheers for the comments. I took a couple days off posting after this one but i don't give up easily :)
@Arniebear and Mort81 cheers for sticking with it, at least a conclusion of sorts was reached.
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