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8. September 2005 @ 00:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Baldbear

Thanks for the reply.

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" Happy37

Platinum RF 4.0.4.15 and AnyDVD will do everything Platinum V5/AnyDVD will do except the dual layer burn.

Will Platinum V5 ever do what it claims to do...that is unknown. Is it worth the price, I will let you decide that from all the previous posts. "

Thanks for this - I have already discovered the above fact from using Platinum RF 4.0.4.15 and AnyDVD.

As for Version 5 and dual-layer burns, I now use DVD Decrypter in ISO Read/Write modes after learning how to do so from the guides and advice from members here on AD forums, so I know that this advice works perfectly...

Please keep up the good work - and as Ireland says:-

" We will let you know when it can copy the "Sony ARccOS protection" and ?Settec ALPHA-DVD protection "

I will keep an eye on this thread to find out if anything new develops with X Copy Version 5.

Ireland/Baldbear - please care to let us know if this does happen and I will then decide whether to keep Version 5 or return it for a full refund.

Thanks





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8. September 2005 @ 01:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you probably have AnyDVD and or DVD43 running in the background and dont know it lol

this thread reminds me that i need to UNLOAD dvd x copy from my PC lol since theres NO way i would ever use it again.i mean why

as stated CloneDVD 2 with AnyDVD is WAY better you can re-author ,control the burn speed ,the picture quality is better etc.

so i really dont get why in the world you would even consider using x copy, it would be like buying a new PC and loading Windows 98 or 2000 on it ,instead of XP lol
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8. September 2005 @ 07:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Clonedvd2 sounds interesting............however, the free updates for ONLY A YEAR have me worried. CloneCD and AnyDVD have LIFETIME updates.

From Slysoft:
A registration key that prevents the trial version from expiring after 21 days.
Technical support for one year
Free updates lifetime for AnyDVD and CloneCD
Free updates for one year for CloneDVD

For the beta testers and owners of Platinum V5, I would like to know how this is fairing with newer burners and faster media(single layer).

I use PlatinumRF (modified, thanks to the posts of Psidoc and xbadboy2 on this forum). I use Maxell and Fujifilm made in Japan 8X media, 4X is almost impossible to find in my neck of the woods (western Canada). I have used PlatinumRf and booktyping from day 1, May or June 2004. Now that I have a new computer and a new burner, I am finding that the burner burns at the highest speed of the media, which in this case is 12X. Dvdinfopro shows no crc errors and yet I am having playback problems in NOT the older players, but the newer, play anything ones.

I don't like the fact that DvdXcopyInternational does not have a trial period. Until they do, I will be looking elsewhere. Too darn expensive, to boot!
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8. September 2005 @ 07:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@mackdl

I have to agree with you on the lack of burn control in Xcopy, however Intervideo does not have it in their program either, and although the quality of the backup is very good the lack of burn control can offset this. So with that program you are better off using it to encode and then burn with another program. I must say I have always been partial to the quality of Xcopy, but that is in the eye of the beholder. I manage to get around burning too fast by using my older NEC 1300a which only burns at 4x max, and I still have some 4x disks around so this works on my 640c, but not on my Plextor 716UF which will burn even 4x disks at a higher rate unless told by the program not to. I have not experimented by just ripping and encoding with Xcopy and then using another program to burn like Intervideo, but I plan on trying this to see if that will get around the high speed issue. And, I also agree Xcopy International would be better off if they offered a trial period, or a few free burns so people could see what the program can do, considering how expensive it is.


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8. September 2005 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ arniebear

I agree with you. I've tried many programs except for Rebuilder (which I will this weekend) and I've always been somehow partial with XCopy. Not sure if this is because it's the very first proggy I used or what. But anywhoo how can you tell how fast you're burning with Copy3? I have some 4x discs but would like to know if I'm burning faster with Benq1640 and NEC3540.
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8. September 2005 @ 07:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Prelude22

I just go by the amount of time it takes to burn. A 4x burn for a 2 hour movie usually takes about 14 minuntes. An 8x about 8 minutes.


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8. September 2005 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do have a question about the install of V5 btw.

Did you uninstall the old software first? Just curiosity, I should have been born a cat.

When I installed I forgot to uninstall 321 software and it installed V5 over it in the old 321 directories. I know probably makes no difference at all. LOL but the hubby and I watched Hitch last night just to make sure it had backed up ok. Was perfect LOL and worth watching again =)
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Sue

LOL this is like a tooth ache, I am still trying to figure out why it is working for me. Intervideo is installed on my machine as well and WInDVR and Well I seem to have a plethora of video and audio programs on this machine. LOL I forgot I even had some of them till I started looking =). I am just wondering if there is a driver that is running that won't show in task manager. Going to have to check Adaware and see what all modules are running and maybe I can figure out which ones I don't know.
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8. September 2005 @ 08:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@seleena

Have you used Intervideo DVDCopy?


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8. September 2005 @ 08:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not really it is installed and usable but I mostly use xcopy and if I get a badly scratched disk DVD Decrypter. That is usually a bad idea though cause I wind up with a back up that has hiccups in it =P. Going to check man of the house tonight, it gave me fits, but was very badly scratched and had some deep nicks in it. I didn't feel like sitting and polishing on the darn thing all night. If back up is messed up though I guess I will be polishing for awhile. /SIGH
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8. September 2005 @ 08:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@selena

If you have AnyDVD on your computer, I would look and see if you have "hide icon" ticked in settings/program. I purchased this program when they had the $10 discount, I can attest it works wonderfully with Xcopy, the read times alone are shortened.

The Maxells and Fujis are burning in just over 6 min in my 16x burner. Where I bought my computer (custom made) the fellow recommended the LG-4163b over Liteons. I know Liteons have a "smartburn" which identifies the blanks and then burns accordingly.

So if anyone has a newer 16X Liteon and uses Maxell 8X (Maxell 002) or Fujifilm (Yuden000T02), I would greatly appreciate, how "Smartburn" sees these discs and at what speed they will burn.

Btw, I still have my Liteon 451S which burns at 4X on my older computer.
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Quote mackdl
Clonedvd2 sounds interesting............however, the free updates for ONLY A YEAR have me worried. CloneCD and AnyDVD have LIFETIME updates.

I and all that I know that?s been using clonedvd2 since it came out are still using the same license..got mine in (2003).

note burn speeds can be selected in clonedvd2.also been playing with a external liteon,model 1673..works good...

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8. September 2005 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't have Any DVD .. I never let windows take control of anything on my computer. If it wasn't for Everquest I wouldn't have a single computer in this house with windows on it. They would all be linux or anything besides windows.

I found a rather large number of codecs loading, and I found some .dll files that I am going to have to look up to see what they go to. I don't know if it makes any difference in the recording but I have a Much older ASPI layer on that machine. I have DivX Pro and All in one codecs loading and some other stuff I am not sure what it is.

I am just waiting till Transgaming gets Linux and EQ to play nice together and then no more Windoze.
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8. September 2005 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Ireland

Does this mean you have "updated" using the same license? My understanding was that you would have to shell out again to be updated.
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8. September 2005 @ 09:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes,i updated clonedvd2 evey time a update came out to this day on the same license..


note: i have clone on 5 of my computers with the same license..

olli the creator of clonedvd2 posts here.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?s=7bc72c9bdb7f7e69efd6c...

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8. September 2005 @ 09:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you Ireland, that is good to know.

You have used the new DvdXPlatinum as well. This is on the shelves at Staples in Canada for a lot cheaper than on the net. Mind you, it is not paired with VideoVault. Does this have any contol of burner speed? Is it just the same as V5 without the ripper?
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8. September 2005 @ 09:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That software is not v5 from international.com,its dvdxsoftware platinum Version: 2.1.0.43...two diff.companys,it also can not do the sony protection.
we also tested that software...

check it out here
http://www.dvdxsoftware.com/

forgot your quote
Does this have any contol of burner speed?
"no"

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8. September 2005 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmmmmm, with backup disc $174.79 CAD on the net. Sells at Staples for $99.99 CAD. Staples also sells XPress, and XGold.

As far as not doing Sony's, I already have AnyDVD. What is the quality like in XPlatium compared to CloneDvd2?
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8. September 2005 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i say clonedvd2 is about the same as DVD Decrypter,and dvdxcopy ..as i view my movies on a 48 inch screen...
just do not take my word....
i say download clonedvd2 and test it out for your self..its free to try for 21 days.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/download.html
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8. September 2005 @ 10:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Xsoftware also has a try before buy. What I liked about DvdXCopy was the simplicity. It does lack in the reauthoring ability, and burn speed. I tried to split my Soprano's and got "too big for disc". It has only 1 titleset/disc.

As NeroExpress came with my burner, I'll give Shrink a whirl. If I don't like, I'll look into CloneDvd2.

Thanks for input!
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I tried to split my Soprano's and got "too big for disc". It has only 1 titleset/disc
I tried doing a TV Series disk and got the same thing. Ended up using CloneDVD and doing it. That is one thing about Clone it re-authors well and you can control the burn speed. You can also split and retain menus on both disks a plus when doing TV Series.


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THATS what makes CloneDVD 2 my fav. program the re-authoring capabilities and being able to control the burn speed that everything when your backing up dvds and the picture quality is great
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8. September 2005 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the verson and I love it. The brouser button works in this one.
The only ones I can't copy are are made by colmbia I can't spell either
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12. September 2005 @ 23:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
arniebear, baldbear, ireland and matt72

Thanks for all the replies to this topic so far and for sharing your experiences and views of Version 5.

It is very much appreciated, yet what do baldbear and ireland especially think about Version 5 for now and the future?

Is it still worth the hassle to keep the program and see what international.com come up with, or is it going to be better to give it back and get a refund?

As I've said, I know that using Platinum RF 4.0.4.15 and AnyDVD has worked with all the movies that I've backed up so far, yet with the exception for the ones that I wanted to do on dual-layer, I used DVD Decrypter in ISO Read/Write modes without any problems whatsoever, and if I remember correctly, someone has mentioned before about DVD Decrypter handling the layer break better than Nero.

I had a disc that I copied using Nero and it froze on playback at the layer break. I then read the forums here on AD, and then discovered how to use DVD Decrypter to do dual-layer burns - so no problems on that one!!!

So, what do you all think of Version 5 knowing that copying can be done using Platinum RF 4.0.4.15 and AnyDVD for DVD-5's and DVD Decrypter for DVD-9's (dual-layer)?

What does Version 5 do as ? extra ? that Platinum RF, AnyDVD, DVD Decrypter and others are not able to do?

Any views and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks




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13. September 2005 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Happy37

I have only been testing Ver.5 for about a week and have not tested it on anything rough yet. But find for the straight backup using express it performs well, it is fast and I am partial to the quality, it comes out sharp and clear and if you use the zoom on it the picture remain good. However, this is using movie only. The problem I find is with the reauthoring part. It just picks up on the Title, and if you have Series Disks I was unable to split. On 21 Jump Street it would pick up on Title 1 which broke down to over 3 hours, but it would not pick up on the individual titles so I could split. Had the same problem with Eleanor and Franklin the mini series. If I used the Platinum for just a movie, it would pick up the menu along with the Title and I could not get rid of it unless I re-authored in another program, which defeats the purpose. I will be testing it with some stronger protected movies and see how it goes. For the money they are charging it should work a little better. Plus, the price is till tto high for the program.


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13. September 2005 @ 22:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Happy37

What I think of V5 now is that it will not do what it claims to do, as for the future of it.... I have no clue.
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What does Version 5 do as ? extra ? that Platinum RF, AnyDVD, DVD Decrypter and others are not able to do?
Nothing.
 
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