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chaseme5
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17. July 2005 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why is dvd shrink so slow at encoding/compressing dvd video. Some projects take 5 + hours. If I use dvd decryter it is 15 times faster. The video is encoded in 15-20 minutes. How ever decrypter can not fit 8 gb on a 4.7 gb disk. Does dvd decrypter have that capability? What is the fastest way to make a back up of a dvd? And is 5 hours normal for this type of procedure?
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17. July 2005 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@chaseme5
I dont know bout anythin faster but I know that it should not take 5hrs. For me the combo i use is:

1) DVD Decrypter
2) DVD Shrink
3) Clone DVD 2

using all these to complete the entire DVD including Special Features etc... takes me about 3hrs to the most... soo im not sure what u are doin to make it go for 5hrs did u read the guides if not here is the link

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/

I hope that helps

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dlocke
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18. July 2005 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Whoa buddy, I think you're confused about what Shrink and Decrypter are actually doing.

Dvd Decrypter will only get rid of encription of a DVD (well, it does other functions like iso read, write, etc, but anyway, we're talking dvd movies right now). It will not do any compression (aka shrinking). That is what DVD Shrink can do. Now, you can let Shrink rip/decrypt and compress at the same time (which could be why its taking so long especially if your machine is slower) or you can rip with Decrypter and open those files with Shrink and let shrink compress those files by reading them off your hd rather than your DVD for hours (obviously this takes more hd space as you end up with a compressed version and a non compressed versin of the movie on your hd).

So, to state it clearly, DVD Shrink can do all functions of ripping and compressing. DVD Decrypter can only rip DVDs. It cannot compress. So, if its DVD-9 than you would HAVE to compress it with shrink or some other program in order to burn it to DVD-5. Okay?

I also will rip with Decryptor first, compress with shrink, and burn with nero (either through shrink or directly using nero).

My longest dvds are about 2hrs at most. That's with deep analysis and high quality encoding settings in shrink. I have an AMD 2600+ with a gig of ram. Your mileage may vary.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. July 2005 @ 06:27

dssxxxx
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18. July 2005 @ 06:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The machines I use are Pentium M's w/1 GB of RAM.

I use Shrink (in conjunction with DVDFORFREE) to read and encode (which takes about 20-30 minutes total) and then Nero to burn (takes about 10-12 minutes at anywhere from 2.4X to 8x....once in a while will burn at 16x to see if quality is OK and it usually is fine).

Total time for each DVD - under 45 minutes.

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18. July 2005 @ 07:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDD does not compress,it will remove encryption and rip to hard drive.
Shrink and DVD2One compress,I'm sure there are more proggies that compress as well,but DVDD is not one of them.
It would take like more then 5 hours for DVDD to do that!
use shrink to compress,I have 2 G's of memory, it takes me 30 minutes max!
dlocke
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18. July 2005 @ 07:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so, you're pretty much saying what I said in my post, just fewer words. Well, what can I say. I like to explain stuff...
chaseme5
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18. July 2005 @ 08:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for all the feedback. I found that when the ide controller is set to dma no problems with the rips and rip time goes to 1.5 hours. However sometime the drive goes back to pio. Then that causes severe problems. I guess I need to check the ide driver each time I rip something. I ripped AVP with no problem when the ide controller was set to dma.
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18. July 2005 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, your drives have to be in DMA mode for any decent times. Windows will revert back to PIO after 5 or 6 CRC errors or sometimes after a firmware update flash. If you notice a big slowdown, check that both IDE controllers are set to DMA.

Jerry


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18. July 2005 @ 18:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@jerry746,would you please explane to me what you mean when you say DMA MODE, and revert back to PIO, after errors or firmware update, thank In advance.
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18. July 2005 @ 18:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Read the 3rd paragraph of the PC basics from ScubaPete's guides at this link. It goes into DMA/PIO and how to set them. My buddy Pete has a lot of good information and answers on his site.

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/petesguide1.html

Jerry


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18. July 2005 @ 18:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My $0.02 worth:
Here is my DMA guide that goes with Pete's:

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/dvdguide005.html
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Here is bbmayo's guide for DMA:

http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/checking%20DMA.pdf

He has you delete the IDE channel and reinstall it. I'd do that if you can't get it to change from PIO.

There are some registry tweaks as well, last resort though.

Hi Jerry!





My website- http://www.dvdplusvideo.com featuring Guides by Alkohol, bbmayo, ScubaPete and me.
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18. July 2005 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Frank, Nice new bike picture in your sig. How have you been doing. Read somewhere that Pete was having PC trouble. I was wondering where he went off to. Good to see you posting again.

Jerry


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19. July 2005 @ 00:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HI,MAKE SURE WHEN YOU HAVE CLICKED BACKUP YOU ARE NOT RUNNING SHRINK IN (LOW PRIORITY MODE)ITS IN ONE OF THE TABS IN THE BACKUP BOX
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19. July 2005 @ 01:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Daz1969
Please dont type all in CAPS. it reads as if ur shouting etc...

thanxs :)

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19. July 2005 @ 18:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pete is trying to sort it out still he's been making a few posts though. I got the number btw, just waiting...I remember waiting for you!

Daz1969......good point.



My website- http://www.dvdplusvideo.com featuring Guides by Alkohol, bbmayo, ScubaPete and me.
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19. July 2005 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Glad to hear that. I had no idea where my number was until a thread was posted around the year end. I checked and was very close without even knowing it. Glad to hear Pete is getting things sorted out. I'm going to forward a PM to you I got this morning. It might be of interest to you and Pete. Later Frank.

Jerry


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