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Shinraboy
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9. August 2005 @ 03:10 |
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None of those programs work anymore. Im using ANYDVD in the background of all of them. Even dvdfab! But nothings working. I tried A Series Of Unfortunate Events and Constantine but it goes very slow with dvd decrypter, and in addition to that, only gets halfway, then just stops. It reaches 283 retries by 8%. DVD shink doesnt make iso either. is it the encryption on the movies? Please Help, I relly need to back these up.
Thanks In Advance.
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10. August 2005 @ 02:25 |
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What are ur sys specs mayb we can help if we new cpu, ram, hdd etc...
Let me know and we can move further..
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10. August 2005 @ 03:03 |
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Yep, need those system specs on this one. With a smaller CPU or a system that has most of the resources already allocated, using a driver type decrypter while trying to rip with another app can cause the system to slow down or even crash. I just did Constantine using DVD Decrypter to rip it to the HDD. I had AnyDVD running so as to set the backup DVD to start on the menu and skip the adverts. In effect, AnyDVD broke the encryption and Decrypter simply ripped (copied) the files to the HDD folder. So, I know the programs will do the job if the system is capable of running them. Once that is done, most any decent transcoder and burner can finish the task.
Don't know where you've been, but if an ISO image is important to you, Shrink most definitely can create one. When you click backup, you have 3 ISO options, one you create to the HD, and the other 2 create the image and burn at the same time, one choice is with Decrypter and the other with CopyToDVD.
It's not the encryption. I'm thinking you have software interference or a lack of system resources. Give us the brand and model PC you're using, the CPU type and speed, amount of RAM and if possible how much is free, how large is the hard drive and how much is free, what operating system is in use, and what burner is being used. Were these programs working that well before and for how long? Another question that sometimes comes into play, do you have Norton with a protected Recycle Bin?
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Shinraboy
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10. August 2005 @ 03:09 |
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Ok pepare for a blast from the past.
Pentium 3, about 433 mhz
Compaq
less than 600 ram
6.2 GB (AVAILABLE OF 13) HDD
The programs were working fine. 1h to 2h 30min to read
about 45min to burn with Nero
Its all i could dig up. Im sorry if its vague.
But what really gets me is the fact that i have over 40 movies backed up. These two were the first ones to ever give me any problems. ever.
Oh yeah and im using an external ILO DVD burner/reader
which seems to make more noise than it used to but that cant be it because it still burns.
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10. August 2005 @ 10:21 |
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I'm surprised you were able to do the movies you already have. Your system is below what many would consider adequate for doing video backups. Most of the problems I've seen people have were associated with older systems with lower capacity. As a test, try recording one of the movies you've already had success with to see if you have started having additional problems or if it is just the movies. With a system that small, I'd suggest ripping with Decrypter and then run Shrink. That way you may keep the drain on the system as low as possible. Running AnyDVD at the same time is adding additional load to the CPU and RAM and may be causing problems. You're doing things with the PC it was never intended for.
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Shinraboy
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10. August 2005 @ 10:44 |
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REVISION
Pentium III 697mhz, 128mb ram 5.41GB HDD (AVILABLE)
i tried decrypting one of my older movies, and it ran smoothly. No chokes no retries. just perfect, and i didnt have any dvd running either. So my reader/writer is working fine. But when i try Constantine or A Series of unfortunate events, it makes that grinding sound while decrypting snd retries 250 times in 4% and takes hours to get to 4%. The last movie i recall decrypting succesfully was The Phantom of the opera.(new one.)
I don't get it. Any other ideas? Please keep helping, thanks more in advanced.
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10. August 2005 @ 11:42 |
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Sounds like you're running up against an encryption system that is causing the problem. Are you using the latest version of DVD Decrypter, v3.5.4.0? If so it sounds as though you're still having problems with encryption. Same for AnyDVD, are you using the latest version? I'm using v5.3.2.1, they may have come up with a new one since I last checked. My firewall won't let it do auto checks. Check at http://www.slysoft.com . AnyDVD is updated frequently due to constant changes in encryption systems. You may need to use updated software. I intentionally let a software program run against a difficult encryption system it couldn't handle and it acted much the same as you describe. One suggestion, since you said you've used AnyDVD in the past; instead of ripping with Decrypter, try just running Shrink and go into reauthor and do the movie only with AnyDVD running in the background.
As I mentioned before, I have the latest versions of Decrypter and AnyDVD and Constantine posed no problems.
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10. August 2005 @ 15:20 |
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I'm very new to this and I've ripped only 3 movies in total. Constantine was my second one and everything ran smoothly. I only have 2 softwares: DVDD and DVDShrink. You don't need AnyDVD for Constantine or any other software. All you have to do is insert Constantine in your drive, open disk in DVDShrink, let it analyse and then encode it in your HD. Then, use DVDD to burn it on a blank DVD. It's as simple as that and I only used 2 softwares.
Now my guess is that you don't have enough space on your HD. I think that it might be because you have too many softwares. Just keep DVDD, DVDShrink and if you want, AnyDVD. The rest, uninstall it. After, delete any DVD's you keep on your computer since that can take from 4,7GB to 8GB or even more.
Like I said, the problem is that you don't have enough space. Constantine is 7GB and something and you only have 6,2GB available. Even if you do what I said, you still might not have the desired amount of free space. My guess is that you should go out and buy yourself a memory chip for your computer or whatever it's called to get yourself more HD free space.
For A Series Of Unfortunate Events, I don't know much about it but you shouldn't have any problems with that one. Remember, don't use AnyDVD if you can use only DVDD and DVDShrink. In the case of Constantine, you shouldn't need it. If with the other movie, you can't because it freezes up, then use AnyDVD because you have to try to use as less space as possible.
Anyways, good luck!
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Shinraboy
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10. August 2005 @ 15:24 |
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I have the most recent of both. But ill clear up some space and get back to you. Thanks for all your help so far.
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10. August 2005 @ 15:39 |
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"Ripped" 100s and only ones I've not been able to copy/burn are Sony Picture Factory DVDs that just won't read in my DVD Writer....
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10. August 2005 @ 15:44 |
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My guess is that you should go out and buy yourself a memory chip for your computer or whatever it's called to get yourself more HD free space.
That's not how it works. However, 40GB hard drives are really down in cost and relatively inexpensive now. A person can pick one up at the local Wally World. A user needs at least 1.5 times the space of a DVD to do a backup with most software. Do the math. On top of that the system has to have enough space to operate. That's what I was talking about when I mentioned limited resources. You have to have the capacity to handle the file sizes as well as the processor and memory to run the software itself.
Shinraboy
If you insist on using this PC to transcode DVDs, I would advise getting a HD to handle the additional file size requirements. Also, buy a couple of RAM units to up the memory to a minimum of 512MB. That will get the PC in better working trim without spending a huge amount of money. The price for the 256MB RAM has gone down and is very reasonable now. You're better off using matched chips than a mixed setup. Check with different suppliers for a good buy.
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10. August 2005 @ 17:03 |
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@Shinraboy
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less than 600 ram
6.2 GB (AVAILABLE OF 13) HDD
Like others have said u really need to upgrade the RAM and HDD to backup ur DVD's with less trouble. 40Gigs is big but again it depends on what ur main use of the computer is if u keep it maintained 40gig is good enough if u just wanna do backup of ur movies but if u want to do more multimedia stuff, I would recommend 120gigs. If u step up to that and also at least 512 to 1gig RAM u will have no probs.
Also u have to take into account if ur motherboard can take a bigger hdd if its an older motherboard u may have to change it.
Keep us posted...
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10. August 2005 @ 17:30 |
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Nowadays a 20GB is small and a 40 GB is rarely put in a production unit, only in laptops and the cheaper desktop models. Desktops usually run 80GB or more. My old cheapie (mid level 8100) Dell came with an 80GB HD a few years back and I updated that with a 250GB WD. So, I've got about 330GB capacity over 3 partitions. Most of the P3 boards are capable of handling up to about a 137 GB HD without resorting to a control card. Also, most could easily be upgraded to 516MB RAM. I wonder about 1GB, I'd check the specs to see if that were possible. Also, if I was going to invest in the more expensive RAM, which getting 1GB is, I'd start thinking about a newer PC, either used or new. I updated a P2 to 512MB on an old Gateway and it worked fine, so going to that level is easy. As long as one doesn't try to go too far upgrading the old P3 systems is easy and fairly inexpensive.
Changing to the XP operating system would help when dealing with newer backup software. Shrink is designed to work with Fat32 systems, but some of the newer software isn't. On that, check the software to see what OS is needed to support it.
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I agree with u but remember minimum cost also u can pick up 40gig hdd at computer markerts in australia as cheap as chips these days. But yes i agree with u that more the merryer and upgradin the sys OS can help a lot but u have to try to work with wat ur given and upgrade wat is essential :)
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10. August 2005 @ 18:36 |
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That's why I suggested the 40GB HDD and the 512MB of RAM. As you say, they can be picked up "cheap as chips". It's when going on up to 120GB HDDs and 1GB of RAM that the prices start going up geometrically as to bang for the buck. Seems we agree on getting the resources up to par. I just think one can go too far with an older PC when for a few dollars more they can get a later model unit that the older model could never be upgraded to match. You also have to realize the limitations of the chipsets on the MOBO and the limitations of the FSB on the CPU function. To put it simply, leave low budget equipment in a low budget or buy something better. Good P4s with more modern chipsets and MOBOs can be had for just a few hundred dollars nowadays.
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Here are some samples of what I'm talking about. Good 2.8GHz P4s with large 80GB drives for about $650 and 2.4GHz Celerons less than $350. The Celeron is a champ compared to the low speed P3. These are the refurbished units from DELL. Lower prices can easily be found for used models.
System identifier Select System Price
Model
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RAM
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Video Card
Modem²
Sound Card
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Network Card
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Z2C8CAE2 $344.00 Dimension 3000 CEL-2400 Microsoft Windows® XP Home 80 G (I) 7200RPM 512 CDRW 56 MiniTower
DDE2YP1Z $614.00 Dimension 3000 P4-2800 Microsoft Windows® XP Home 80 G (I) 7200RPM 256 CDRW 56 MiniTower
E6VXLK1Z $664.00 Dimension 4700 P4-2800 Microsoft Windows® XP Home 40 G (I) 7200RPM 256 48X MicroTower
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10. August 2005 @ 19:48 |
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Yea i like what u have suggested but its up to Shinraboy t oc what he can doo and wat he can afford??
any ideas??
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11. August 2005 @ 02:04 |
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No more than stated. I was just offering viable alternatives for Shinraboy. As you said, the decisions are his. I fear if he doesn't improve his system's resources or get another PC with a better setup, the problems will continue, if he persists in trying to do DVD backups.
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Shinraboy
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11. August 2005 @ 03:13 |
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You know what. Im just gonna buy a new pc. Im cleaning mine out to-day and selling it. From there im gonna use My parents lappy. Kicks the crap out of my pc in every aspect. Its temp though. Im planning on either getting an AlienWare or a Dell Inspiron 6000. (it works well for me)
Thanks for your help. Im gonna try ripping on the laptop.
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11. August 2005 @ 04:11 |
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Just one thing extra to remember with laptops. Since working with DVD video is highly CPU intensive, overheating of the CPU has been known to occur in some laptops. If the one you have has ample cooling, then it shouldn't be a problem.
BTW, unless what you get out of your old PC is worth it, you might want to keep it for doing grunt work like word processing, and recording your CDs, until you get a replacement. It can also work for getting your email and getting on the web. Mom and Dad might want to use their PC at the same time you need to use one.
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Shinraboy
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11. August 2005 @ 05:09 |
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@ Brobear
Heres a question, these pcs you mentioned, can they play games fairly? Just for like the sims 2. THATS ALL. nothing like doom3, or half life. something simple like the sims2. is it fast enough to process it??
BTW
Whats Wally World??
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Shinraboy
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29. August 2005 @ 05:10 |
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I think i found the problem. My (external)dvd drive keeps saying
DVD Decrypter: I/O check. (but its fine)
DVD Shrink:cyclyctic redundancy check (with all dvds.)
But it still sees the movie fine!!!
Is there a patch i can get!!??
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29. August 2005 @ 08:54 |
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Not aware of any patches. I do remember that with some external drives DVD Decrypter had some problems. Both DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink are without support nowadays; so there's no questioning the source. Just check around the forums and see what you find. I've never run into that problem before. It's appears the flaw is in the interface, but the cause can sometimes be elusive.
Wally World? I thought everyone knew that one. Wal Mart
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Tamzin
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29. August 2005 @ 20:43 |
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Shinraboy, welcome to the world of microsoft. Microsoft are putting digital rights on anything. Everything that is copied even backed up will not work...only the originals will work.
My best tip, go to linux and use linux or mac os X and get microsoft out of the game. With Vista coming out soon, it is going to get even more tricky. Find linux software and make microsoft bankrupt, then hopefully they will realise that, and take the digital rights off.
Happy hunting
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29. August 2005 @ 22:08 |
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I have nothing against linux, but microsoft has little to do with what's going on with this problem, other than being the OS the software is running under. I have used Shrink, on occasion still do, and the Decrypter gets a constant workout. There is no conflict with Microsoft.
How would going to linux solve this problem? Quote:
Everything that is copied even backed up will not work...only the originals will work.
Not so, I'm always using copied apps and files and that's with XP with SP2.
If something is already backed up there is little use for Shrink and Decrypter. The files are already sized and decrypted. If in ISO, then Decrypter could burn it. Also, getting a lot of programs intended to work with Windows to work with Linux or Mac is something of a trick as well. So, be constructive with the problem instead of trying to sell members on your favorite OS and getting them involved in the down Microsoft movement. After all, Microsoft must have done something right, they have the lion's share of the market.
I'll give Linux its due, it is a decent OS and there are some things it does well, possibly better than Microsoft. However, a lot more programming is oriented toward the Microsoft operating systems, so the user has to take that into account as well.
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