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Nothings Working, DVDshrink, decypter! Nothing
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gr8jeep
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5. September 2005 @ 13:52 |
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Well heres what i'm gonna do , i'm gonna list every movie i have burned , not sure if this will explain the trouble free burns or not , then i will do the other thing your asking me to post on , so here we go, cheech and chongs up in smoke ,The Forgotten,I Robot,Titanic,The Day After Tomorrow,Ladder 49,Days of Thunder,Spiderman 1 and 2,Prozac Nation,Black Hawk Down,Million Dollar Baby,Lemony Snickets Unfortunate Events,Everest (Imax Theater Thing),Enemy At The Gates,Hide And Seek(the main movie without the 4 diff. endings),Flight Of The Phoenix (the original and the new release),American History X and i am about to do Guess Who, i realize some of these are old movies , some single layer and some dbl layer and like i said before with the majority of the movies i only burn the main movie i'm just not interested in all the other hoopla, although i woulda like to have all 4 endings of Hide And Seek seeing as i only watched the main movie , maybe the above movies are just no trouble to burn , i don't really know , you guys would know better then myself , next post i will do the media thing ...
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gr8jeep
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5. September 2005 @ 14:11 |
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Seeing as i have no clue how to use this clipboard thing or actually where to find it , i will just type in what info i got here we go, Disk & Book Type : [DVD+R]-[Not Available] Manufacturer Name: [Prodisc Technology Inc.] Manufacturer ID: [PRODISC] Media Type ID: [R03] Product Revision: [003] Blank Disc Capacity: [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)] Recording Speeds: [1x-2.4x,4x,6x-8x], lot of info there , means nothing to me other then the size and recording speeds and the dvd+ because when i first starting doing this i bought 5 dvd - disks because i had no clue until i found this site , the disks i have just identified where like 18 bucks for 100 inside one of those spindle deals, hope this helps , any other info i can give let me know
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brobear
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5. September 2005 @ 15:23 |
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That's the tool I was referring to. You just told us you're using Prodisc R03 which is 8X +R discs. Not the best nor the worst. Cheap doesn't always mean bad. borhan9 touched on a good point though, compatibility doesn't always mean quality. The Identifier file opens in notepad format, so all you have to do is copy and paste into your post here on an AD thread. Saves a lot of typing. Sounds like you're doing things right, including hedging your bets by burning at 4X, insurance against possible high speed burn errors. Everyone knows higher speeds increase the possibility of errors, even though some record at higher speeds and do okay. It's especially a good idea when using less than premium recording media. You've been doing things pretty much the way they should be except for selecting your media. So far your luck appears to be holding. Like the rest of us, you'll eventually find some bad media, whether you're looking for it or not. Keep using that DVD Identifier, so you know what you're burning with. DVDInfoPro is a good tool and has a free version. It has a bunch of utilities besides doing IDs. You can read about it at http://www.dvdinfopro.com and around the forums. One interesting aspect is that it can check media for errors.
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brobear
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5. September 2005 @ 15:35 |
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Adnihilo
Addressing what you had to say, that is a matter of encryption, not the drive. DVD ROM is supposed to be compatible with all DVD drives. Decrypting for purposes of recording is where a lot of people run into problems. Normally the AnyDVD is quickly updated to compensate for any new encryption systems. Sony has been notorious over the past year for their new encryptions, which came up useless against Decrypter and AnyDVD (just a matter of days before they were updated). DVD Decrypter was supported until just recently and to date, I'm unaware of any movies the last version can't do. You can check http://www.slysoft.com for the latest version of AnyDVD in case you don't have the auto check set (5.4.1.1 is the latest download and has been out for a while).
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gr8jeep
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5. September 2005 @ 15:57 |
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Would purchasing a dual layer burner have any benefits for me or as long as my stuff is working should i just stay with it , what is the benefit of the dual layer burner, hey also i didn't mean to walk on the guys original post here, sry Shinraboy that wasn't my intention...
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brobear
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5. September 2005 @ 17:14 |
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The thread is moving on. Shinraboy got some upgraded equipment and solved his problem. Dual layer is good for more capacity if you need it. You also get into some compatibility problems, even with some of the newer standalone players. If replacing a faulty drive or getting a new one first time, I'd recommend a DL burner, especially since it handles both DVD5 and DVD9R. However, I wouldn't suggest running out and getting one to replace a current burner, unless it's just a need for the extra capacity. The DL media still isn't cheap enough that I'd want to use it on a regular basis.
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Shinraboy
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6. September 2005 @ 05:06 |
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@bro bear
i got the 2GHZ without even knowing it. i got a makeshift laptop at a pawn shop that turned out to be great.
Pentium 4
CD/DVD rom(and burn)
Wireless internet chip. the works!
only problem is the graphics. but ill update soon. It decrypts in 15 mins. Thats awesome!
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brobear
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6. September 2005 @ 07:22 |
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Good for you. You can get a lot of info on what is in your PC by using SiSoftware's Sandra. There's a free version you can download from their site. Just click on the Lite and go to the download. I think they may not openly advertise it being free on the opening page now. It will give a listing of specs and components and even some serial numbers in some cases. Handy to know things in case you ever have to do any maintenance or want to do upgrades.
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Adnihilo
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6. September 2005 @ 08:17 |
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re. brobear on Non recognition by PC DVD of some Factory DVD Movies
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A matter of encryption, not the drive. DVD ROM is supposed to be compatible with all DVD drives. Decrypting for purposes of recording is where a lot of people run into problems. Normally the AnyDVD is quickly updated to compensate for any new encryption systems. Sony has been notorious over the past year for their new encryptions, which came up useless against Decrypter and AnyDVD (just a matter of days before they were updated). DVD Decrypter was supported until just recently and to date, I'm unaware of any movies the last version can't do. You can check http://www.slysoft.com for the latest version of AnyDVD in case you don't have the auto check set (5.4.1.1 is the latest download and has been out for a while).
Thx for explanatory response on that Brobear. Confirms what I 'thought' but was not sure of as the culprit. Sin City, if remembering right, was the movie that wasn't being recognized till after installing the 5.4.1.1 version of AnyDVD. However since Sin City and AnyDVD install, within the next 4 weeks or so another 3 movies, 1 asian, [Tartan Extreme Movie - OldBoy I think?? - bout guy imprisoned in hotel room for 15 years] then 1 UK movie [L4YERCAKE] and some other new release from Sony Pictures I can't remember name of still went 'unrecognized' in DVD Drive with latest version of AnyDVD installed/up and running. Sometimes I wonder if Sony DVD Techs reference this forum... Think they are? No matter, that's still only about 27 movies out of 30 or so.. In my rather obsessive way, I still get teed off when not able to copy/burn a movie from not being 'recognized' in the PC DVD due to their encryption. Again, thx for definitively clearing that up though brobear..
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Adnihilo
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6. September 2005 @ 08:26 |
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re. gr8jeep on list movies copied
I just wanted to note gr8jeep that most all of those movies you listed above are older and any Ithat I had gotten at the local BB rental store gave me troulble in copy/burn.. I do hope you don't run into any that go 'unregognized' in your labtop DVD for it's quite frustrating...
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gr8jeep
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6. September 2005 @ 13:01 |
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ummm, i don't have a laptop dude , regular giant sized pc, but i see what your saying with not recognizing them , and yes i hope i don't have any issues either but i will cross that bridge when i get there, by the way , is there anyway to tell before you burn if its gonna be a problem , what i mean does decrpyter or shrink encounter an error or does it make you waste the disk before you know its not gonna work , i know what you guys are thinking , why would i care i buy cheap a$$ disks anyway, lol......
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brobear
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6. September 2005 @ 13:53 |
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DVD Decrypter is a "ripper". Meaning it copies the files to the HD while decrypting. The transcoder compresses and the burner finishes the job. Burner apps won't burn non compliant files. Nero will sometimes give a warning and ask if you want to continue. The times it has done that, if there was a problem, it didn't show. CopyToDVD will refuse the burn all together. So, there are safeguards. Shrink is a handy app when it comes to problematic structure. Running files through it will actually correct structure. As for the driver type decrypter AnyDVD, it's either working or not. If the decryption isn't removed, the recording software isn't going to work. To date I've not transcoded or encoded anything that I couldn't burn using DVD Decrypter and/or AnyDVD. In a couple of instances I used Shrink for the specific purpose of correcting file structure to the output would be compliant and burn.
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Adnihilo
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6. September 2005 @ 15:49 |
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Just picked up 'Crash', a Lions Gate production and after again downloading AnyDVD, reinstalling it to be sure it's the latest, my PC DVD Burner doesn't recognize or 'read' the DVD.. So now it's even Lions Gate Movies, a big production company, on top of Sony not reading on my PC DVD Burner/Player..
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brobear
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6. September 2005 @ 16:49 |
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Is the ROM reading it or is the problem just when you try to record it? The Region 1 release of Crash is easy as can be to back up. Usually if there is a problem with a particular region release, Island Thunder updates quickly. Have you checked with support to see if they've actually encountered problems with the release you have.
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Adnihilo
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7. September 2005 @ 03:50 |
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Thx for response brobear. It's Read Only Memory, ie nothing registers to be in the DVD when there's a disk inserted. But here's no doubt a DVD Oddity. Crash finally 'read' in my PC HP DVD 300n Writer. Let me preface this by identifying it as a repeat 'oddity' in never played Factory DVD Movies right off the shelf from Blockbuster - never viewed freshly pressed rentals. I must of re-inserted the Crash DVD a half dozen times with it not reading once in my HP DVD 300n Writer. Rebooted Win XP even and it still didn't read. Finally gave up and just watched it [and thoroughly enjoyed it as well by the way - for me, perhaps the very best movie I've seen this year]. Then, remembering it has happened twice before, after watching it on a stand alone DVD player, I stuck it in my PC HP DVD 300n Writer and low and behold the windows explorer folder popped up [how I've got it set in autoplay] indicating it read in the DVD Writer and was ready to be copy/burned....
Strange wouldn't ya say brobear? That repeated [3] freshly pressed factory DVD movies never played prior many times won't read in my PC DVD after repeated tries until spun, ie inserted and played in my stand-alone samsung DVD player???? Region or CSS Codes don't read well perhaps on unused freshly pressed DVDs until played once? No other explanation I can think of....
What's Island Thunder anywho. A tool like AnyDVD that removes CSS copy protection and RPC region codes from DVDs?
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brobear
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7. September 2005 @ 09:56 |
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Island Thunder is the source of AnyDVD; like saying Lightning UK and DVD Decrypter.
Sounds like you're having problems with your hardware. Do you just have the one DVD drive with your PC? Many of us that do DVD recording on a regular basis use a DVD ROM drive as well as a burner drive. If a problem arises with a read, it's simple enough to just pop the DVD in question into the other drive to see if it is a drive not working properly. Rarely would you have 2 drives acting up at the same time unless there is a flaw in the interface. Then it wouldn't normally play some DVDs and not others if it was an interface problem. There are advantages to multiple drives other than just prolonging the usable lifespan of the more expensive DVD burner.
Region codes and other encryption don't come into play unless you're trying to do something like play an R2 DVD in a region 1 player or trying to record. You don't need decryption software to just play a DVD on a PC; same as with a standalone player on that count. A good player software is recommended though; WinDVD from InterVideo or the PowerDVD programs are a couple of forum favorites.
In your case the first thing I'd check would be the PC drive that is working only after playing a DVD in another drive. Sounds like the optical head not picking up properly. It could be any of a number of things. The first thing I'd do is try cleaning the head. Then if you run into another "odd" problem, put the disc in question in a good drive on another PC and see if it has the same problem. From what you describe, one thing I can safely bet on is that the problem isn't decryption software (nothing to do with playability as long as the region code matches the player). BTW, if the region code doesn't match, it would never play, so a region mismatch wouldn't have been part of the problem.
What you have told us so far is that one piece of hardware does a better job reading than another. Also, once the DVD has been subjected to the laser of that piece of equipment it reads more easily for the problem drive. You're dealing with lasers and light refraction. It's conceivable a new DVD's readabiility might become easier following an initial playing. However, that points to a weak or dirty laser that was unable to do the initial read. If you keep getting the same problem and it isn't the DVDs, you may need to seek help from a tech or put the PC in the shop. One thing about a bad DVD, they don't normally become good and start playing.
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11. September 2005 @ 16:50 |
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Had an interesting experience with AnyDVD a while back. DL'd the trial app to test..........didn't purchase (and didn't use any more). At the end of the 21 day trial, none of my cd/dvd drives were recognized on my machine. Had to re-install drivers, which was a real pain.
Any one else have this experience?
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guern
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11. September 2005 @ 16:51 |
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Had an interesting experience with AnyDVD a while back. DL'd the trial app to test..........didn't purchase (and didn't use any more). At the end of the 21 day trial, none of my cd/dvd drives were recognized on my machine. Had to re-install drivers, which was a real pain.
Any one else have this experience?
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brobear
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12. September 2005 @ 00:32 |
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First I've heard about that problem and I've been around for a bit. Plus, I used the trial and didn't get the regular retail until later on.
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Shinraboy
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12. September 2005 @ 07:22 |
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AT ANYONE!
I got my new lappy, ive benn shrinking down movies like a psyco. The only thing is that i kept my external burner. Only, its not reading dvds anymore. Just burns cds, and reads cds. Whenever i put in a blank dvd, it makes grind noises, slows down, grind, slow, grind. and eventually give up on reading. It doesnt burn with Nero or decrypter. I have isos saved, just need them burned, any advice before i go out and buy one. Help. thanks.
P.s. i also tried a directdvd to dvd copy. It says that i need to enter a blank dvd, but the blank dvd spindle was JUST opened.
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brobear
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12. September 2005 @ 08:58 |
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To save going back and checking, what was the brand and model of the external burner you're using? Without up close diagnosis, I've a couple of suggestions. Download the free Sisoftware Sandra app, Lite is free, and use the appropriate test module to check the drive. Go into System and check the drivers for the drive. On rare occasions ASPI can be added to a system to improve on the current interface. I'd check the drivers first and then use Sandra if necessary. I mentioned ASPI but it rarely helps (but who knows?).
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12. September 2005 @ 16:35 |
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Zamrin:
I disagree with you. You might have to register your original software once, but you can use it in many PCs as you want.
Remember when you register on line and call the nice girl at the desk at Microsoft and she asks you...ARE U USING THIS SOFTWARE IN ANY OTHER PCs? The answer to that is....NOOOO!!!! Your reply to the nice girl is...I had to reformat the HD on my computer...and that´s why I´m calling you.
Somebody will cry PIRACY...and I will answer...BULL!!!
I used one software in 3 of my PCs and it works flawlessly.
Remember....
every rule has an exception
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Shinraboy
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13. September 2005 @ 02:59 |
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@brobear.
Nevermind. Its a hardware problem, the dvd laser failed. I dont have money for a new one now, but do you know anything that fits a dvd to cd-r? With good quality. Menus?
For now only.
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brobear
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13. September 2005 @ 06:39 |
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DivX will convert DVD and transcode to CD. Some of the newer standalone players support DivX. InterVideo's DVDCopy4 records SVCD, they have a 3 week trial. http://www.intervideo.com
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