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how do I fit alot of files onto a DVD? *help please!*
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 12:17 |
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When I watch DVDs that other people burnt. I always see about 20 episode of files on each disc. But when I do it I can only fit 3 files in. (((the files are in vbr mode))) I was just wondering. Is it possible to play it on a DVD player if i just write the VBR on like a data disk???
help please? thanks in adavance!
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JaguarGod
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1. September 2005 @ 12:52 |
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By VBR, do you mean Variable Bit Rate? I found that if I do VBR at approx 5200 mb/s quality, I can only fit about 4 episodes. I am now experimenting and I am getting 340 mb .m2v files with 80 mb sound files. This should be about 10 episodes a disc.
What program are you using to encode your episodes?
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 13:02 |
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Super DVD Creator 8.5
its sucky...
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gear79
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1. September 2005 @ 13:35 |
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try Nero and make those files you have into a 'data' dvd (using nero) providing your dvd player can support that, i have put up to 11 full length movies on one dvd alone, by data with Nero.
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JaguarGod
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1. September 2005 @ 14:02 |
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I've never heard of it, but I have an idea of what it is. I bet it is just like Nero Vision Express & DVD Builder. These automatically adjust the VBR and give you options like High, medium, and low Quality. There is a very good chance that you are also getting LPCM sound which will be about 1 gig on the disc.
To get the most out of your DVD disc, you will need to do manual encoding. Download something like TMPGEnc 2.5 or TMPGEnc Xpress 3.0. They will be demos, but should fully function for 30 days.
I am not familiar with the Xpress version. I will provide a short how to for TMPGEnc 2.5:
Open the Program and cancel the Wizard. For Video Source, click browse and select your Video file. Do the same for audio. Now click on "settings". In the Video tab, change rate control to Constant Quality (CQ). Now click settings next to this and set max to 8000 and min to 200 and uncheck the padding option.
Now go into audio and change output to .wav (pcm).
Select ES, Video+Audio. Click start and depending on you PC speed you may be done in about 30 minutes to about 2 hours. The result will be a m2v file and a .wav file. Make sure your output is episodeXX (m2v & wav) where XX is the episodee number i.e. 01, 02, ..., 25, etc....
Now you will have to convert your .wav to .AC3. You can download besweet which is free and should do this.
After you convert the audio (about 5 to 20 minutes per episode of audio), you will need to author your DVD. First see your file sizes. Your .m2c should be about 350 mb and your .AC3 should be about 80 mb. 350 + 80 = 430. 4400/430 = 10 episodes.
Download DVDlabpro. This is fully functional for 30 days. Unless if you know how to create a menu do "play only" or find a menu creation software to import a menu that you created. Read some guides and attempt to create the menu in DVDlabpro first.
Now add each episode you encoded along with its sound file to a different movie. In the tree right click on movie1 and select add movie and do this until you have enough for 1 each episode. Lok at the bottom right and it will give you your total size. Shoot for 4.35 GB or less. Set your chapters to the beginning of episodes if you don't have a menu.
Right click the white part on the bottom right and import your audio and video files. If you did play only, then you should only have to go to project=>compile dvd. Click ok and then wait until it muxes everything. This will take about 5 to 10 minutes. The default location will be c:/DVDVolume.
Now open your burning program and burn the DVD Folder.
This was a quick guide and not very in depth, but should be enough for making normal DVD Videos.
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JaguarGod
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1. September 2005 @ 14:08 |
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Oh one more thing, if you want, you can do VBR in TMGPEnc and set the average bitrate to something like 2000. This will be decent quality and pretty much guarantee over 8 episodes per disc. If you decide to use the qizard, it will have a screen that you can use to adjust the bitrate by the % of disc space you want each vid to take up. You can go as low as about 9% per 24 minute episode (11 per disc) and it will not affect quality much unless if the original .AVI was over 400 MB.
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 14:08 |
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whoa way too complex...
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 14:08 |
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the oringinal is about 200mb
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 14:19 |
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thanks for the tip tho!
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JaguarGod
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1. September 2005 @ 14:46 |
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It is not really complex. It just seems like it is because of all of the steps. The hardest part is having the patience to wait for encoding. You can try TMPGEnc Xpress. That is the user friendly version.
Basically here is what I said:
1.Split your AVI into sound and video files (about 5 clicks and your done) (TMPGEnc-Demo) I think you can download the install version [retail] and use it for 15 days without a registration. The demo will not install only extract.
2.convert your sound to .AC3 to save about 100MB space per episode (leave this step out if besweet is too hard) (Besweet-freeware)
3.combine your audio and video into 1 file (Only drag and drop)(DVDlabpro-full featured Demo)
4.burn your movie (nero, roxio, maybe even the program you have)
5.If you do not have a program that can burn VIDEO_TS folder, then download DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. I can give more info if you need it, although I think DVDlabpro can burn the movie.
The actual input time will be about 20 minutes from you and about 5 hours of waiting if your pc is fast for a full DVD.
When you open the programs they are intimidating, but if you ignore everything and just point and click it doesn't matter. They will be super easy. They can do a lot more than what I said, but you will only need what I suggested. Also, once you set TMPGEnc, you do not have to change settings again unless if you want to change something.
You should at least try it. I will be around here for a while and if you get stuck, I should be able to get you unstuck. Also, there are many others in Afterdawn that can help you more than I can. Some probably know the software more than the creaters.
If you really want, I can create a guide with screen shots, but that would take me a bit of time. I would have to find a way to host the file, though.
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 15:39 |
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its fine i think i'll try it out ^^
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 15:39 |
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thank you so very very very much!
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torrix
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1. September 2005 @ 15:39 |
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thankyoU!
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JaguarGod
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1. September 2005 @ 17:49 |
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No problem. I am doing an episode DVD now, so I will have direct access to be able to help you with all the tools I mentioned.
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mvick2111
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2. September 2005 @ 11:45 |
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i also am having the same problem. im trying to put 8 episodes of a show onto one or two dvds, each episode is 30 minutes long and about 230 MB in size and in .AVI format. i tried putting all 8 onto a data dvd using Nero, but my dvd player said that the disc was unreadable. i tried using TMPGEnc to encode the AVI files to dvd format, but it said that the audio file was unrecognizeable. any ideas on how i can get a few AVI files onto one dvd?
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JaguarGod
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2. September 2005 @ 20:35 |
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JaguarGod
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2. September 2005 @ 20:51 |
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Now that I am looking at your post again, "the audio file was unrecognizeable", this suggests that you may have encoded using mp2 sound.
Is this the case? Are you using TMPGEnc Plus or the Xpress version?
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mvick2111
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2. September 2005 @ 21:20 |
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my mistake, it says this audio file is "unsupported" i have the plus version. i used that program you said to get, it says "1 video stream: XviD 1 audio stream: MPEG1/2 L3" it says the audio stream is 108 Kbps, 48 KHz, 2 channels.
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JaguarGod
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2. September 2005 @ 22:22 |
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Edit: I am referring to TMPGEnc software
I am not sure if you use the wizard or not, but I will tell you both ways to go about your problem:
1.using the wizard
When the wizard pops up, select DVD NTSC (US) and also select either VBR Linear PCM audio or CBR Linear PCM audio. Click next
Choose your audio and video source and make sure your video settings are correct. Also, choose Video movie at the bottom. Click next.
Click on "other settings". Set your rate control to Constant Quality (CQ). Click setting right next to this and set minum to 200 and uncheck padding option. Also set motion search to either fast or very fast and encode mode to non-interlaced. Click next
[why I suggest these settings: Your initial video will be of low quality and it is not worth the extra hours of encoding to improve quality. There will be almost no difference. Best would be 2 pass VBR with slowest motion search]
Now click ok and set the disc size to 12%. It will auto adjust higher if bitrate is too low. You could also manually set bitrate to about 2200. Click next
You will see that it will create both an .m2v file and a .wav file. This will be your demuxed files. Click ok and wait until finished. Make sure you name your files for convenience. Use something like epXX where xx is the episode number. ex: ep01, ep02, ..., ep25, etc... Click OK.
I will include the final step after the normal mode:
2:normal mode (no wizard)
Load your audio & video files.
Click on "setting". Adjust rate control to CQ. Click on the settins button next to this and set min to 200 and uncheck padding. Click ok. Make sure encode mode is non-interlaced and use fast or fastest motion search options. Click ok.
Now select ES (video + audio) stream type. THis will be the third option. Click start. This will also give you a .m2v and .wav file. Name this for convenience as well.
After you get your files you can further compress the audio file to save about 100 MB. You will need an audio converting tool that can convert .wav into .ac3. I use Sony Vegas, but that is $500. You can try Besweet which is free.
Besweet stable version: http://besweet.notrace.dk/BeSweetv1.4.zip
BeLight GUI stable version: http://corecodec.org/frs/download.php/139/BeLight-0.21.zip
ac3 encoder: http://besweet.notrace.dk/BS_ac3enc.zip
Make sure to read the "read me" files with belight and ac3enc
Now encode your .wav into .ac3 with this program. If you have problems, you can see if Sony Vegas Demo will let you save the files. If you decide to download this, I will let you know how to encode into .ac3 as you have to change a couple of settings first.
Now, download a good DVD authoring program Demo like DVDlabpro. This one is fully functional for 30 days and seems very good and easy to use. I explained how to use this program in my reply to the original poster. If you know how to create menus do so, otherwise do a simple play movie and do the menu with Nero Vision Express or something like that.
When you add your files to DVDlabpro, play them so you can see if they are in sync or not. If they are not you may be able to slide the audio around to fix the problem. I am not good at advanced audio editing so I cannot help you much here.
Your average total file size will be about 400 to 500 MB so you can fit 7 to 10 episodes per disc. I am doing a disc now with 7 episodes, because I used VBR with high quality on the first episode (1 gig file). The others are under 500 megs.
Also test the .ac3 files to make sure they have sound. For some reason when I converted with besweet, I could not get sound, but I did with Sony Vegas. Maybe someone will drop by and give you some help wih Besweet.
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mvick2111
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2. September 2005 @ 23:12 |
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i really appreciate all that help, but unfortunately no matter which audio settings i choose, i still get the same error message when trying to load the audio file. also, i am trying to put 8 episodes from one show onto one or two discs, but when i use VirtualDub to merge the 8 files into two seperate files, it says that the audio sampling rates for each .AVI files are different, and therefore cannot be converted. Is there some program that i can use to convert the audio for all 8 episodes into the same type of audio thats supported by TMPGEnc?
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JaguarGod
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3. September 2005 @ 08:24 |
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TMPGEnc says it is unsupported? You can try video to audio converter: http://www.regnow.com/softsell/visitor.cgi?affiliate=29246&action...
This will be a 30 day trial. I thought you meant the DVD player did not recognize the audio file. This will give you a .wav output.
Then when you encode your movie with TMPGEnc, select ES (Video only) stream and select the video source and keep audio source blank. Make sure you will only get a .m2v output. You can then convert your .wav to .AC3 if you want to save space on the disc.
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torrix
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5. September 2005 @ 07:12 |
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i just figured out why it didn't work. the file is RMVB...now what the heck is up with that?
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torrix
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5. September 2005 @ 07:14 |
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and how do you deal with it? lol...
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gear79
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5. September 2005 @ 08:53 |
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rmvb IS a video file (real media variable bit rate). I'm guessing your problem is one of these two:
1. You can't play the file. Get real player or real alternative (recommended). http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm (scroll down)
2. You can play the file, but you want to convert it to a different format. Real Media is a proprietary format and I can't think of any program that will convert it to another format off the top of my head.
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JaguarGod
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5. September 2005 @ 10:01 |
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