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SLICRIC04
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5. October 2005 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tried to use latest ver of shrink for lords of dogtown, stopped after 10 sec or less. Tried using dvd decrypter, locked up at 1%. Finally I tried dvd decrypter file mode, which I thought was successful, but when I played movie only the making of the movie showed. Main movie not there. One of my friends had same problem. Any suggestions?
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konfused1
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5. October 2005 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Welcome to aD.

This title has been discussed in several threads in the past. I would suggest you type "Lords of Dogtown" in the search field above and you'll find a number of threads, and advice on how to deal with this issue.

Good Luck!

"The more information you can give about your problem, the better we can help you."

ScubaPete's guide: http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/petesguide2.html



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5. October 2005 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
use dvd fab decrypter...........
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5. October 2005 @ 18:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its real easy. You need to make the bogus cells go away. So here goes. Rip the dvd in folder #1 using Fab Decrypter 2.9.5.2 beta with AnyDVD 5.4.4.1 running in the background. Next use VOBBlanker 2.0.1.0 AND LEAVE THE SETTINGS ALONE!!!!!!!!!! just use the default settings and send the movie to folder #2. Take DVDShrink and open the files of folder number two and shrink it to a third folder. Burn folder number three using Nero and I garuantee you a perfect full copy. Any questions reply.
xcassiusx
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6. October 2005 @ 01:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Worked like a charm!

(thanx bentcue07!)

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6. October 2005 @ 02:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow! bentcue07, you actually did all that extra work just to get the movie? lol



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flamitaz
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7. October 2005 @ 17:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey bentcue...will the same process work for Menace II society? Since I get the same error message (invalid dvd navigation structure) when using shrink. I tried it using everything you said, except I haven't uprgraded my AnyDVD, (never had the need to, I bought it and only used it one time so far. And that was because I didn't have shrink before that) DVDShrink has been awesome to me, I have been able to backup all the movies I own, (over two hundred) and never a problem, until now. But after trying your method it hasn't worked, still shrink can't open up the folders. I'll upgrade and post back up if successful, or not successful. Thanks.
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7. October 2005 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tried a cpouple of things. The way you (bentcue) suggested it, no luck, even after upgrading my anydvd. Tried with clonedvd2, no luck won't even open the dvd. The only one thing i was able to do was copy it to my hard drive (using dvdfabdecrypter), but even then I can't open it with any of these programs. I give up... At least for now. I'm sleepy.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7. October 2005 @ 19:33

paiger651
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8. October 2005 @ 10:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had the same problem with menace to society shrink through fits
with this movie.I ended up using dvd decripter ISO read mode and
then burned it with ISO write mode.
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8. October 2005 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDFabDecrypter has been updated again to fix LOD problem.
Quote:
2.9.5.2 Beta3 (10/06/2005)
- Change: Correct VOBU when removing "Sony ARccOS protection".
This should fix DVD Shrink error "Invalid data in file ...\VTS_02_4.VOB"
when opening files of "Lords of Dogtown" (US).
Latest release is 10-6-05. So anyone still having problems with this movie while using DVDFabDecrypter, a new update is available.

**Edit
i took out reference to AnyDVD being updated.



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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. October 2005 @ 22:48

flamitaz
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9. October 2005 @ 01:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Where did you get that info for AnyDVD? I went to their website and looked for it and couldn't find it. I already upgraded my AnyDVD with the 5.4.4.1 version, but still no luck. I downloaded the update about two or three days ago. Has another update came out since then? Should I download the update again? TIA, Tony.
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@flamitaz
Now you have me wondering where i saw that update. And i found the problem.. I am an idiot!! It was DVD Fab Decrypter that was updated to handle this on 6-oct, not AnyDVD. Sorry about the confusion. Thanks for pointing that out. I went to AnyDVD site like you did, and couldn't find the update. Then noticed in my post i copied the update info, and that is where i saw the version number 2.9.5.2 Beta3, that is FabDecrypter. My bad. :( But Fab is now updated to handle LOD also.



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flamitaz
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10. October 2005 @ 05:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah I have fabdecrypter the latest one and it rips it to my HD, but when I try to open it with shrink it gives me an error message, and when I try to open it with clonedvd2 it also gives me an error message (menace to society that is).
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10. October 2005 @ 08:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@flamitaz
What does the error message say when you use shrink to open? And do you have the latest version of shrink?



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10. October 2005 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@flamitaz
I did some research on your error code as stated in an earlier post: invalid navigation. Here is what i found on the DD forum {i am copying this, not linking you to it} :)
Invalid DVD navigation structure
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Error code ver 3.2:

DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue.
Invalid DVD navigation structure

General:

The error would typically mean a problem with the IFOs. Credit: blutach

or

the fact that DVD Shrink can't backup movies with Sony's DVD protection system ARccOS?.

Problem 1:

You recieve the error when you try to open up a DVD or files.

The problem can be due to known "Problematic movies" such as Resident Evil: Apocalypse region 2,4,5. For more information on a list of those movies and a working solution look at this FAQ page.

Solution A1:

The best solution.

Use the latest version 3.5.4.0 of DVD Decrypter to first rip your DVD to your hard disk and then use DVD Shrink in open file mode.

Solution A2:

You don't need to use DVD Decrypter first to rip the files to your hard disk - just have DVD43Free running in the background and you can use DVD Shrink directly from the original source DVD - thus saving you valuable time. DVD43Free only works on Win2K and WinXP.

Solution B:

Try to unplugg your CD-Writer - could be a conflict. Credit: encounta

Solution C:

I extracted one DVD to a folder on my comp with DVDDecrypter. When I came to open it with DVD Shrink 3.2 (File, open... ) I got that message error : "Invalid DVD Navigation Structure". I found a solution for this problem using posts on this forum and a little bit of searching on the net.

1. Delete ifo files in the extracted DVD folder
2. Download IFOEdit at IFOEdit.com/" class="korostus" target="_blank">http://www.IFOEdit.com/ (my version is 0.96)
3. Open it and click "Create IFOs" (the box at the bottom)
4. Fallow instructions and save IFO in the same rep as extracted DVD. Let it processe; It could take like 5 mins.
5. Close IFOEdit
6. Start DVDShrink 3.2, click File, Open... and it should work
7. (optional) I my case this step was necessary. You may have to rename VOB files to this form "VTS_01_x.VOB" where x E[1,2,...,n] from first VOB to the "n" last one

Please note that after shrinking a movie in the case you remove audio track(s) it could be a good idea to delete IFO in the encoded repertory then to apply step 3 to 5 from this little guide. This is a good idea because in the IFO there is still infos concerning removec audio track and when played on WinDVD, by example, the choice for removed audio track is still there, but it points to nowhere.

By example, you delete Spanish track because you speak English. If you dont do steps 3 to 5, in the DVD player Spanish will still be available, but when you'll click on it, nothing will happen. So this is only for a "looking" reason that you would do that, but mabye a bug could occure on some DVD player if you don't.... but for this part I really don't know.

Credit: killerfrog

After the Create IFOs, you need to manually input the languages.

Do this:

1. Open the IFO of the titleset concerned - eg VTS_01_0.IFO
2. In the VTS Overview screen locate the audio streams and subtitle streams
3. Double click on the relevant streams to get a dialogue box. Usually changing the language and number of channels is all that's required
4. Do this for all the audio streams and subtitle streams
5. Save the IFOs
6. Do the same for VIDEO_TS.IFO

Subtitle colours need to be checked and copied for each IFO. If you get green and unreadable subbtitles - you can use this fix. Credit: de Witte

Credit: blutach

Solution D:

Sometimes doing a "mock strip" with IFOEdit can resolve this problem with the advantages that all of the chapter points and audio and subtitle information remains intact.

1) Launch IFOEdit and open the VTS_01_0.IFO
2) Click on VOB Extras and make sure all check boxes are checked EXCEPT:
Remux, Rebuild PTS, Split to 2 DVD-Rs, and Remove IIvu/Angle Point.
3) Select a new destination directory.
4) Click OK.
5) make sure Correct IFO Tables checkbox is checked.
6) check all streams that are to be kept.
7) Click Strip It.
8) make sure Correct IFO Tables checkbox is checked.
9) check all VOB Ids.
10) Click Strip It and let IFOEdit process the files
11) When IFOEdit has finished, close IFOEdit

In the new destination directory, IFOEdit may have created a couple of zero length files (VIDEO_TS.VOB and VTS_01_0.VOB). These should be removed.

12) Restart IFOEdit
13) Open the one of the new IFO files in directory D
14) Click on "Get VTS Sectors" and say OK to all of the dialog boxes

Credit: wingerz

Problem 2:

You are trying to open files/DVD from a TV recording.

Solutions:

As far as I know your DVD-RW recorded from the TV is most probably in DVD-RAM format and Shrink will only recognise DVD-ROM structures. Credit: jellybean

In one of the old messages I found that VobBlanker was suggested. And indeed, my problematic files processed by VobBlanker (default settings) could be read by DvdShrink 3.2, though there are a number of extra titles. Credit: fransk

Apply DVD Decrypter on the title.
Delete all the *.IFO files in that folder.
Then use IFOEdit, create IFO files button - selecting the *.VOB file of the title.
Then use DVD Shrink on that folder. Credit: stcrocefirenze

If you get green and unreadable subbtitles - with that last solution - you can use this fix. Credit: de Witte

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Last edited by cynthia : 26 Mar 2005 at 06:16 PM
You might try some of those methods. I have used the IFO Edit method before on other problem movies with great success. I am not a memeber of that site, but they do have a good DVD Shrink error code log and know fixes for each error. Just spreading a little knowledge around.. :)



Die CMC Mag!!!
flamitaz
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10. October 2005 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I didn't even know there was a latest version of shrink. But I believe I have shrink 3.2.1. I never had any problems with backing up movies. I even when other people had lots of problems with other movies, I would never. This is why I led to the conclusion that there are different presses of movies out there, and some are just bad. But I will see if I need an updated version of shrink, and i will try your other suggestions MAX. Thanks for all the help, I will keep you posted. This site and its members ROCK!
flamitaz
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12. October 2005 @ 21:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Maxburn I was able to do Lords of dogtown using AnyDVD, dvdfabdecrypter, and dvdshrink. Still working on menace II society.
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PraXuS
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20. October 2005 @ 18:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah all same problems for me too, in the end it came down to using the latest AnyDVD and DVDfab then Shrink without altering the disc at all and it came out perfect.
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