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DVDclone2 vs. DVD shrink.......
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michaelhk
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25. November 2005 @ 03:56 |
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I Downloaded the trial version of the AnyDVD and CloneDVD2, tried on Chocolate factory backup, initially everything works fine until when 18 minutes was left from the "Building DVD file" bar (at 25%) and the program hangs (Not responding), I close the program from XP and re-run again, but the program hangs again!
I am using Pent D Dual Core 2.8G with 1GB RAM, DVD Rom and a LiteOn DVD R writer.
Any suggestions?
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25. November 2005 @ 08:05 |
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At that point in the process I would check the original for dirt, finger prints or damage. Your programs have beaten the encryption that far in so it has to be something else causing the problem. Possibly a defective original pressing.
Jerry
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BIGnewb
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4. December 2005 @ 06:39 |
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i have CloneDVD the trial version now and i want to get off on a good start so i just need to know wat speed to use on a 8x memorex DVD-R.and i know memorex may not work but plz just say.
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4. December 2005 @ 06:42 |
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Since it is Memorex keep it to 4x some members will even tell you 2x. Don't sweat it will work out, but in the future think better media, it really does not cost that much more, there are always sales and you will have less chance for coasters :)
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aabbccdd
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4. December 2005 @ 23:20 |
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yes it does BUT it has alot of problems inculding not being able to re-author and NOT controling the burn speed plus audio problems for that reason i dont use the program unless i have to for hard to read dvds
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rspar
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5. December 2005 @ 14:14 |
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I use dvdfab express and get movies on one disc (w/o menus etc) would shrink increase picture quality? They seem pretty good now though.
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5. December 2005 @ 18:16 |
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I've never tried Fab..........
But DVD Clone has had pretty good, picture quality when I just do movie only.
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aabbccdd
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5. December 2005 @ 22:53 |
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picture quality wise fab is better than shrink
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movies27
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6. December 2005 @ 01:27 |
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what about deep analysis using clone dvd2...when you do a movie it just starts right on up transcoding it...i see no option for deep analysis or any enhancements...is clone dvd2 just that good that it doesnt need to do any of that..and also i'm hoping someone can explain this to me from the manual of this program.."Snapshot window: Picture Snapshots show which parts of the movie are transcoded at the moment. You can change the update frequency as you like to. The higher the update frequency the slower the transcoding process! """???? ...How would you change the update frequency?
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6. December 2005 @ 22:25 |
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7. December 2005 @ 00:21 |
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Im feelin very sad when i´m hear people buy Slysoft prog & keys. at places like E-Bay. They want good & relayable programs but they wont let the people who make them get payed for the excellent job´s !!
I have all Slysofts products and i have payed for every one of them.
And I hope all people with fake keys for Slysoft & Elby products
will get a permanent Blue Screen of Death or worse !!!
Slysoft programs are worth the price and some one must make the updates 4 them otherwise they cant´t do the job with your DVD´s
So.
Download & Try them 4 21 days
Buy them if U like them (Pay 2 Slysoft and no one else)
Otherwise don´t use them at all !
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aabbccdd
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7. December 2005 @ 00:39 |
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very good advice danwer , there def. worth the bucks
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7. December 2005 @ 03:50 |
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I have found that Memorex usually costs as much if not more than good quality media. Think Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, Maxell (MIJ), Sony (MIJ), or Fugi (MIJ). You can often find these on sale.
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aabbccdd
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7. December 2005 @ 08:34 |
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yes all can be had on sale for about 25 to 35 cents a piece
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GSTNem
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9. December 2005 @ 02:07 |
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Quote:
And I hope all people with fake keys for Slysoft & Elby products
will get a permanent Blue Screen of Death or worse !!!
lol i brought them and i have that ne ways :P
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permatex
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12. December 2005 @ 16:24 |
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i have been following this discussion as to weather clone dvd2 or DVD Shrink gives the best quality picture,first there are some varabiles to consider such as your computer,processor,dvd writer,hard drive speed ,memory,amount of compression and all the other little things that can affect a given dvd copy outcome.you can copy a dvd using clone dvd2 and DVD Shrink and ask ten persons to look at both and tell you which one has the best quality picture,chances are five will say DVD Shrink and five will say clone dvd2.to make a long story short,go with what you are satisfied with after you have tried it.
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GSTNem
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13. December 2005 @ 11:57 |
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well, i dont wanan sound stupid, but inst the only difference between the picture quality cuased by the compressor codec (or decompressor)? because obviously u can only fit a certain amount on a disk, both have to lose some quality when they make it smaller right? well isnt the quality of the smaller picture determined by the codecs each uses? if one has a better codec than the other it will be better no question...
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13. December 2005 @ 15:02 |
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Yes, it's true. The less compression , the better the pic. quality
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brobear
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13. December 2005 @ 15:57 |
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I believe there was more being said. Besides editing to lower the content, the software being used to transcode or encode makes a difference as well. The transcoding or encoding (compression) software makes a lot of difference. Someone mentioned Rebuilder using the Cinema Craft Encoder app. That is one of the better apps, but a 2 pass encode can take nearly 3 hrs for a large movie like Man Of The House. That DVD is about 7.8GB in size and encoding was done using a 3 GHz processor. It's not much faster with smaller movies, but it varies a little from movie to movie. Using a faster or more efficient processor can speed things up, but that's across the board for most recording apps, encoding/transcoding is processor intensive.
I have access to a large library of software. I've gravitated to RB/CCE when I want the best quality, especially with higher compression involved with the bigger movies. After that, I like the DVD Copy 4 from InterVideo. That one's fast as well as high quality. Sort of a pain to edit with until you get used to it. Great auto settings though and you can go for movie only. Then there's Recode 2 with Nero. Seems to be improved and I'm using it more lately for movies less than 7GB. Recode has some settings to improve quality as well. Shrink is almost as slow as RB when using the quality settings to improve quality at higher compression. Without the settings in use, it breaks down as the compression starts going over 20% or so. CloneDVD2 is okay, I just don't trust it for higher compression work. Those are just some personal observations where cost isn't a factor. There are trial apps for these and Shrink is a freebie, so checking it out isn't a problem. Doing tests will let the user find his own preferences.
If cost was a factor, I'd probably have RB/CCE using the CCE Basic and Recode2 along with the Nero Suite. That way I'd have the complete burning suite with a decent and fast transcoder, and a good encoder setup with RB. The HC encoder with RB makes that setup free and it works good. So there is another alternative to cut cost.
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movies27
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15. December 2005 @ 16:18 |
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here's my 2 cents..i did movie only of deuce bigalow using dvd clone 2 & shrink..both were 100% quality..the movie done with dvd clone 2 looked 10 times better than the 1 i did using shrink....
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brobear
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15. December 2005 @ 16:40 |
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And here's 3 cents change...
Shrink and DVD Clone 2 100% quality. An impossibility if any transcoding (shrinking) occurred. No matter how good, something gets lost. Not to say the results don't look great to the naked eye in a lot of cases. DVD Clone 2 is ten times better, even more interesting; 100% times 10 equals 1000%. 900% better than perfect, an interesting conclusion.
Now I ask, are we talking about CloneDVD2 from Slysoft or DVD Clone 2, the app that was using Shrink with a control window that hid the Shrink in the background? CloneDVD2 is a decent transcoder, the only edge I see it having is speed. I've used both apps and Shrink actually handles higher compression better than CloneDVD2 and the picture quality is not very different between the 2. One thing I've disliked about Shrink is that on occasion the output looks like someone changed the contrast. It's something one has to pay attention to, but it has been noticable. Some people refer to it as "softening" the output. DVD Clone 2, unless they changed it, it's a ripoff of Shrink. The results were posted over at Doom9 on that fiasco. Someone did a capture and caught a Shrink window flicker in and out.
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15. December 2005 @ 17:23 |
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My Software of Choice would be Nero RECODE 2 over Shrink or Clone DVD2
It's faster quality is much better than Shrink or Clone Dvd2 and it's just as easy to use as the others....
a movie that takes Shrink in HIGH QUALITY MODE 1hr 45mins or so to Analyze Encode & Burn takes Nero Recode 2 about 1/2 to a hr (depending on the compression) to Analyze Encode and Burn
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milleron
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15. December 2005 @ 18:11 |
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By "100%," I think he means that there was no compression using either program. When he says that the other program is 10 x better than Shrink, he's talking about his impression of the final result. Just a guess.
Ron
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brobear
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16. December 2005 @ 03:20 |
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Thanks for the input Ron. If he meant compression, it would have been nice had he said that instead of quality. If that was the case, he shouldn't have been using either program. If less than 4.37GB, there is no need for a transcoder, just decryot and burn. If DL, the freeware ImgBurn will burn the decrypted files without running through a transcoder. Nero and other apps can be used for burning as well.
"Better" is more of giving a personal opinion, 10 times better is adding a more quantitative aspect to the statement. Anyone who has used these apps properly can easily realize that is a stretch. Why not just say I prefer DVD Clone 2 over Shrink and leave it at that. If wanting to say they prefer the output of one over the other, just say so. Saying one is 10 times better, meaning the other is 10 times worse is just putting down Shrink unnecessarily. If in reality it is DVD Clone 2, what is being said is I prefer a ripped off version of Shrink over Shrink.
As to that mixup of apps, it seems to be fairly common. But it would be helpful when people talk about apps to get the names right. CloneDVD2 from Slysoft shouldn't get mixed up with DVD Clone 2.
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GSTNem
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16. December 2005 @ 05:25 |
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well i have two reasons why DVD Shrink sucks. 1 the stupidly long time it takes (my computer isnt fantastic so it does make a huge difference) and 2 the authoring (when u remove languages or extra scenes to save size) is impossible to do without messing up the main menu movie and even then its still weird and hard. they may seem like small things to you but they make a big difference to me.
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