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Problem in burning image file created by DVD Shrink
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Max73
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29. October 2005 @ 04:55 |
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I copy my DVD using: DVD Decrypter to rip the DVD on my HD, then DVD Shrink to create an ISO image file on the HD and finally Nero to burn the image file.
I was able to do this for a lot of time, but suddenly it didn?t work anymore: the image file on HD is OK (I can play it with Power DVD mounting it on a virtual device) but after the burning, when I play the DVD on the PC in the same device that burned it, the movie is not OK: it stops for some seconds then restarts, the audio is out of sync, there are subtitle that wasn?t supposed to be there?.
DVD Decrypter and DVD shrink are up to date, Nero is a little old (6.3.0.3) but I tried also using Clone DVD2 (2.7.5.1) and directly DVD Shrink with the same problems.
The burner is a BCT DRW1016MI and I tried with different media: TDK, Sony, Philips.
I can explain why it doesn?t work anymore.
Can you, please, tell me what else I can check?
I am sorry if this isn't the correct forum to submit the problems, please tell me where I can ask
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neodave
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29. October 2005 @ 05:56 |
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I don't specifically know the answer to your question but I think people will tell you to use 'file mode' instead of 'image' with decryptor. Image works for sure because that is how I used to do it but I'm told it's not the best way. Maybe you could try it that way.
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Max73
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30. October 2005 @ 02:39 |
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When I rip the movie I use DVD Decrypter in File mode to transfer the content of the DVD on my HD.
Then I read the file with DVD Shrink (Open file from the VIDEO_TS directory) and I Re-author the movie with DVD Shrink.
At the end of the Re-authoring, when I do the Back-up with DVD Shrink, instead of burning directly the DVD, I use the "ISO image file" target to create an ISO file on my HD.
This ISO file is OK: I can play it with Power DVD and a virtual drive.
But when I burn it on the DVD the movie is no more OK (it stops for some seconds then restarts, the audio is out of sync.... I tried different burning tool (Nero, Alcohol 120%, Clone DVD2 ) but the problem is always the same.
What can I check?
Is it possible that is a problem of the DVD burner?
Please, help me to understand how can do it
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30. October 2005 @ 03:40 |
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Are you setting your target image in Shrink? You need to set the target to 4300 so that you do not burn too close to the edge of the disc. Burning too close causes the problems that you are having. Also bad media. Please post the media codes for the disc that you are burning.
You can read the codes of the media from decrypter or get dvdinfopro from http://www.filepedia.com
Post back.
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30. October 2005 @ 04:40 |
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As 9mmruger1 requested what kind of media are you using? Also open Decrypter and go into your Tools tab, then Drive and capabilities and check the make/model and current ver. of firmware to insure it is up to date, it looks like this
Also if you have a Nero log of your burn please cut and paste that in you post it will give the info. Go into My Computer, Program Files, Ahead, Nero, Nero History.
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Max73
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30. October 2005 @ 05:25 |
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When I do the back up with Shrink, in the Windows "Backup DVD", in the field ?Select backup target? I choose the value ? ISO Image File?
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You need to set the target to 4300
What do wou mean?
The burner is a BCT DRW1016MI and the characteristics are:
Device 2:0:0 DVDRW IDE 16X A07M (F:) ATA
(I?m sorry but I don?t now how to post images, I tried simply copy and paste but I doesn?t work)
I know the firmware is a little old but I?m not so sure in doing an upgrade because I was told that it is dangerous: is it so?
I?m trying to fin the media code for the DVD that I used (they were TDK, Philips and Sony) but I don?t know how to find it in DVD Decrypter.
Thanks for your help
These is one of the Nero log
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Programmi\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 19.18.06
Versione Nero: 6.3.0.3
Masterizzatore: <DVDRW IDE 16X> Versione: A07M - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
Driver Adattatore: <atapi> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <AXV CD/DVD-ROM >Versione: 2.2a - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
Driver Adattatore: <xmasscsi> HA 3
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : ELBY DVD-ROM 1.0 ElbyVCD Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080P0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : DVDRW IDE 16X atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616E atapi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a xmasscsi Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
ELBY DVD-ROM I: CDRom2
DVDRW IDE 16X F: CDRom0
SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616E G: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM H: CDRom3
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 235MB (241340kB)
Memory in use : 53 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
21.8.2005
Copia DVD al volo
17.58.11 #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running
17.58.11 #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer DVDRW IDE 16X running
17.58.11 #3 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 241
DVD Track-Information from source disc
S01 T01 Con 0x14 Start 0 Len 2285849 (gap 0) Blank 0 Res 0 Mode TRM_DATA_MODE1 (0)
17.58.11 #4 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 334
Max -1 tracks of 1 allowed to copy
1: 0 - 2285849 = 2285849, TRM_DATA_MODE1, block size 2048, read opt 0 (no read options)
17.58.11 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
17.58.11 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2285848 (507:57.73, 4464MB)
17.58.11 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE
17.58.11 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: DVDRW IDE 16X, Media type: DVD-RW
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKW - 01
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 214
17.58.11 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
17.58.11 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - Dati (modo 1))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2285849 (2285849) = #2285849/507:57.74
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2285849 blocks [DVDRW IDE 16X ]
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17.58.11 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
Prepare recorder [DVDRW IDE 16X ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681418752, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2285849 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
17.58.11 #12 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Inizio scrittura a 2x (2.760 KB/s)
17.58.11 #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
17.58.11 #14 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 14:10,178 (850178ms) -> OK
17.58.11 #15 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
17.58.11 #16 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19487
Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON
17.58.11 #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
17.58.11 #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7941
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-RW (3), Part Version: 2
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
17.58.30 #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:30.234 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.39 #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:39.921 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.39 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:39.953 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.39 #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:39.984 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.40 #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:40.015 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.40 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:40.062 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.40 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:40.093 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.40 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:40.125 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.40 #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:40.156 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.40 #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:40.187 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
17.58.40 #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
17:58:40.218 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H2 T0 : Queue again later
18.26.46 #30 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
<DVDRW IDE 16X > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2285849 (22E119h), lenght 0 blocks
18.26.46 #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion
18.26.46 #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1847
EndDAO: Last written address was 2285855
18.27.23 #33 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
18.27.23 #34 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
18.27.23 #35 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Scrittura eseguita correttamente a 2x (2.760 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 29/08/2002 1.27.50 (Adapter driver for rec)
File 'Drivers\xmasscsi.sys': Ver=3.44.0.0 built by: WinDDK, size=5248 bytes, created 23/12/2003 2.15.42 (Adapter driver for src)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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AfterDawn Addict
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30. October 2005 @ 05:57 |
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To set target size in shrink click Edit>Preferences>and on the preferences tab click the down arrow and select "Custom" then type in 4300 and click okay.
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Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2285848 (507:57.73, 4464MB)
This from your log shows you have burned too close to the edge IMHO.
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30. October 2005 @ 06:05 |
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Quote:
Versione Nero: 6.3.0.3
Your version of Nero needs to be updated current is 6.6.0.16
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Masterizzatore: <DVDRW IDE 16X> Versione: A07M - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
This firmware is 5 updates behind no wonder you are having problems with the burner recognizing media. Yes flashing is always a risk, but by the same token if you do not do it your burner cannot recognize newer media and burning speeds. If you are not having problems then do not flash, but if you beging to have difficulties burning it is time to up date. The current version for this drive is
A187
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1913
9mmruger1 is right you are burning to the edge of the disk reset the target size in Shrink
In the box select custom and then type in 4300 to 4364
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gmoyer60
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30. October 2005 @ 06:27 |
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Why dont you just set it up to go back automatically to Decrypter after using DVDshrink and use Decrpypter to burn the movie to the DVD?
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huttoboy
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30. October 2005 @ 06:28 |
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If he is already using Decyptor to Rip.......why doen't he just select and use Decryptor to burn, he already has a burning software he is using.........I've "NEVER" used Nero to burn, only DECRYPTOR, and never had a problem burning. I also use it to "Make a copy of a copy" even though I have Roxio and Nero.
I use Verbatim disk and have preference set to 4300 just as arniebear stated, that way it doesn't burn all the way to the end of the disc. I also use only the "file" mode with Decyptor.
But since I got AnyDVD (what a great offer for Afterdawn users---$10.00 off) I very seldom use Decryptor. I try and keep it simple.
You never said what movie you were trying to back up. Some movies have "issues"............try something simple are maybe another movie if you haven't tried that yet. good luck hut
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huttoboy
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30. October 2005 @ 06:29 |
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gmoyer beat me to it by 1 minute...........good advice
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Max73
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30. October 2005 @ 06:31 |
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These are the media code for the DVD that I used from DVDInfoPro (I hope these are the correct information):
TDK DVD -R
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0D 0C .l...@....R.....
00000010 87 89 90 00 03 54 54 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 .....TTG02......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 BA A3 22 32 20 02 00 06 09 0A 15 ......."2 ......
TDK DVD -RW
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 D6 FD 9E D8 21 00 02 0F 05 06 .l...@....!.....
00000010 88 75 0D 00 03 54 44 4B 35 30 32 00 04 73 61 6B .u...TDK502..sak
00000020 75 4D 33 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 0F 0C 04 uM3.............
Philps DVD-R
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 88 0D 0C .l...@....R.....
00000010 88 88 90 00 03 46 55 4A 49 46 49 00 04 4C 4D 30 .....FUJIFI..LM0
00000020 33 00 00 00 05 B8 83 00 30 00 01 00 06 09 0F 10 3.......0.......
Emtec DVD-RW
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 D6 FD 9E D8 21 00 02 0F 07 0D .l...@....!.....
00000010 88 76 09 00 03 4F 50 54 4F 44 49 00 04 53 43 4B .v...OPTODI..SCK
00000020 30 30 31 00 05 0D 88 76 09 00 00 00 06 10 0B 07 001....v........
Sony DVD-RW
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 D6 FD 9E D8 21 00 02 0D 06 07 .l...@....!.....
00000010 88 65 0D 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 57 00 04 30 31 00 .e...RITEKW..01.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 00 88 00 00 00 00 00 06 10 08 05 ................
Thank you very much for your suggestion I?ll update the firmware and reset the target size in Shrink, and then I will try again with the same movie to see if you have solved my troubles.
Thank you
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30. October 2005 @ 06:31 |
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Burning with Decrypter is fine if you only want to burn iso files as this is all Decrypter can burn if you have VOB files you will need a program like Nero to burn.
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huttoboy
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30. October 2005 @ 06:36 |
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Now that I thought about it, maybe someone could tell use the advantages of using Nero to burn. I've never used it to burn so I can't really speak to it........of course I never had a problem burning with Decryptor so I never thought about it. Thanks
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gmoyer60
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30. October 2005 @ 06:52 |
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Why dont you just set it up to go back automatically to Decrypter after using DVDshrink and use Decrpypter to burn the movie to the DVD?
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gmoyer60
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30. October 2005 @ 07:10 |
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What are the advantages of not having an iso file, but the VOB files. These are the original files that I see when I initially rip the dvd to my hard drive. Isn't it better to have one big file as oppossed to a lot of little ones?
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Max73
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30. October 2005 @ 11:03 |
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Unfortunately I stil have problems.
I updated the firmware, now the situation is:
Device: [2:0:0] DVDRW IDE 16X A187 (F:) (ATA)
I set the target DVD size of shrink to 4300.
I shrink the movie and after I burn the iso image file with both CloneDVD2 (2.7.5.1)and DVD Decrypter (3.5.4) ISO mode but in both case I sill hve problems (the movie stops for some seconds and then starts again).
The media is a sony DVD-RW (media code is RITEKW01)
Now I'm doing the test with National treasure, but I have had similar problems with different movies (The day after tomorrow,Meet the Fockers...)
Do you have some other suggestion?
Have I to change my burner?
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temj
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30. October 2005 @ 12:16 |
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How fast are you burning them?
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30. October 2005 @ 13:46 |
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Quote:
17.58.11 #12 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Inizio scrittura a 2x (2.760 KB/s)
18.27.23 #35 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Scrittura eseguita correttamente a 2x (2.760 KB/s)
i think this means he was burning a 2x. It looks like italian language to me temj.
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30. October 2005 @ 13:49 |
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Try to burn at 4x --- oops sorry = Maxburn I see you alrady have some info on that - so diregard - what I just wrote if you are already burning at 2x ... --------
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30. October 2005 @ 13:55 |
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@zhelpz
:) the more minds on this one the better it goes, so feel free to jump in. i did :}
Die CMC Mag!!!
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30. October 2005 @ 14:29 |
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'preciate that Maxburn
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Lookin at sig - You must be shooting Memorex Disks *LMAO*
I wonder if max73 is using memorex disk ?
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huttoboy
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30. October 2005 @ 19:22 |
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arniebear,
I read the dif of VOB files and it was about as clear as dirt/mud/dark/black/nite time............sorry it didn't compute. hut
why would I want to use VOB files or burn them with Nero ?
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Max73
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31. October 2005 @ 01:00 |
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I m burning at 2x.
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I wonder if max73 is using memorex disk ?
I am using a Sony DVD-RW. I am using a -RW disk, erasing the content anytime, to perform test without wasting a lot blanck DVD.
The media Code for the disk I'am using are:
Sony DVD-RW
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 D6 FD 9E D8 21 00 02 0D 06 07 .l...@....!.....
00000010 88 65 0D 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 57 00 04 30 31 00 .e...RITEKW..01.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 00 88 00 00 00 00 00 06 10 08 05 ................
Is this a good media?
Is a problem to use rewritable DVD erasing the content any time?
Thanks for your help
This is the log of my last attempt with DVD Decrypter in ISO Mode Write:
I 20:13:02 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 20:13:02 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 1)
I 20:13:02 Initialising SPTI...
I 20:13:02 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 20:13:03 Found 3 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD±RW!
I 20:14:12 Operation Started!
I 20:14:12 Source File: E:\NATIONAL_TREASURE\NATIONAL_TREASURE.ISO
I 20:14:12 Source File Sectors: 2.201.879 (MODE1/2048)
I 20:14:12 Source File Size: 4.509.448.192 bytes
I 20:14:12 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink
I 20:14:12 Destination Device: [2:0:0] DVDRW IDE 16X A187 (F:) (ATA)
I 20:14:12 Destination Media Type: DVD-RW (Disc ID: RITEKW01) (Speeds: 2x)
I 20:14:12 Destination Media Sectors: 2.297.888
I 20:14:12 Write Mode: DVD
I 20:14:12 Write Type: SAO
I 20:14:12 Write Speed: MAX
I 20:14:12 Link Size: Auto
I 20:14:12 Test Mode: No
I 20:14:12 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 20:14:12 Filling Buffer...
I 20:14:13 Writing LeadIn...
I 20:14:30 Writing Image...
I 20:41:35 Synchronising Cache...
I 20:42:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:59
I 20:42:12 Average Write Rate: 2.711 KB/s (2.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2.782 KB/s (2.0x)
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31. October 2005 @ 01:31 |
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@Max73
I think the riteks are ok, and that is the smart/wise thing to do there Max73. This is the perfect time for you to use DVD+RWs as you can erase and start over without wasting anything but time. Your last log said burn was sucessful. Was it? Also, just as a test, have you tried burning now with a DVD+R of good quality? or are you still having problems with skips and freezes? Changing media can be the cheapest and quickest test in your problem elimination steps.
Die CMC Mag!!!
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