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Burning a specific Dvd @8X when it should be 16x
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Equal to what? It's still a valid argument.
your still trying to flog that dead horse arent you Discmania.
I'm glad you get results burning at that speed, but its like people using memorex discs.Only a small percentage get any good results .
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7. December 2005 @ 00:55 |
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I noticed on that last Verbatim scan on page one that the large PIF spike was while the disc was being burned at about 4X. In a CAV burn which this appears to be you don't reach 16X until about the end of the disc I generally burn my 16X discs at 12X unless I have a problem. I can burn TYG02 (8X) at 12X or 16X, but I generally stick to 8X since that is what it is rated for. The only discs I have had lately that I couldn't burn at their rated speed were some Ritek G05. If I burn any of those at 8X on any of my burners I get pink spots all over the discs and they won't play. I've quit using Riteks a while back. If you have any Ritek G04 or G05 printables a year or so old, do a PIE/PIF scan on them and you'll be surprised. I've found that nearly all of my old Ritek printable -R that are more than a few months old have PIE of over 1000 and PIF of several hundred. I haven't had this problem with +R such as R01 and R03. I haven't had this problem with any other brand as long as I got a good burn in the first place. Just about the best were the old Prodisc S03 which I guess aren't made any more. If anyone is interested in seeing any scans I have several that I can show. Sorry, I just realised that the speed displayed on the upper chart is read speed. I would imaging that the burn speed at that point would probably be 6 or 8X. To see burn speed with Nero CD/DVD Speed test you have to waste a disc and have it burn a test data disc. I guess I'm not thinking straight. It's 4:00 A.M. right now.
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Dave, pls tell us you're having better luck with your media lately, the only posts i see from you are you having nightmare's with media :)
You don't live near the Bermuda Triangle do you :O
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I have been following this thread, but arguing burn speeds is akin to arguing religion... I am using 8X TY exclusively these days and 8X burns work best for me... I haven't even tried any 16X media as I only use inkjet printables and 8X is the best value... Also, I haven't seen any 16X scans on TY at any speed that trump the scans I get with my 8X... It works for me, and if it (whatever "it" is) works for you, then GREAT... Offer an opinion and move on.
EDIT: Bought some MCC004 this weekend (12/11) and still burn @8X
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Whew this one ran the gambit. Whatever trips yer trigger is what you should do.
Happy Holidays to all!
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let me jst briefly (honest) repeat the reason i churn out the advice that i do. "there are a lot of ppl out there who just can't burn at high speed, or use crappy media to get good results, or walk on water", my own aim around here is to get ppl working CONSISTENTLY and without costing 'em money (well apart from buying decent media maybe), very important words i think. i don't give a rats ass about the tiny few who CAN do everything right. Even if i can, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE MASSES WITH PROBLEMS, CAN.
And they're the ppl we're catering for remember, well most of us anyway.
Nice post creaky and I whole heartedly agree. BTW congrats on "having the button" although I wouldn't want the headaches that come with it. Nice knowing there is a mod I can have a little fun with (besides Neph) without being too concerned about thunder and lightning. :-) I too am done with this thread.
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Hi there,
Wow, 3 full pages of arguments that burning at 16x is not a good idea.
Why are you arguing with these guys ?
We offer them our 2 cents, and let them decide what they want.
When I read that people are burning Memorex at 16x, and they say they are happy, all I do is sick back, and tell them I'm happy for them :)
Thir's mi 2 cants (Damn, I typed at 16x, see all the errors now ?)
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Wow, 3 full pages of arguments that burning at 16x is not a good idea.
is that what we are doing...................me bad...........lol
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i'm off back to lurking
@andmerr hi :)
do you reckon phantom could make my fish wag it's tail
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yeah, maybe you should pm him.
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cheers, i'll do that
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@creaky
Yes, I'mn having good luck with my burns now since I'm using mainly TY or Verbatim. The only nightmares that I'm having lately are these older Riteks that I'm slowly replacing. Unfortunately, I've burned hundreds of them thinking they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. They were initially. As far as burn speeds go, people can do what ever floats their boat. I used Nero 7 for a while and I found that if I used Nero 7's Nero Express, which is what I generally use, It would try to burn every disc at the maximum speed that the firmware would allow.. I didn't see any place to change the speed. My Pioneer 109 is very picky about burn speeds. If it doesn't like the speed on a particular disc there will be a lead in time of a couple of minutes while it figures out what speed it is going to use. My Lite-On acts similarly. My LG and BenQ just go ahead and burn the disc, and if it's too fast you find out when they're done.
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16x burn speed lovers:
When it comes down to saying 16x is the best, again, just words are not going to prove your point. Even scans can be faked/modified (burn at 4x, and say it was burnt at 16x for example). You say 16x is great, prove it. Post those 16x 98% quality scans. Other than doing that, its all just down to the bigger fish story. I don't doubt you 16x burners are doing that, and it is "working" for you. I burn from 4x to 8x depending on how i feel at the time. Most of the time i seem to be burning at 6x. Now my system/media/drive can burn at 16x, but i go 6x. Call me old school, or whatever you want, but i am happy with what i am doing, and your 16x is better statement is not enough proof for me to waste my discs, just because you say i am being paranoid. I have done a few 16x burns just to test it, and i can see the difference in quality by the scans, and playback.
I had a motorcyle that had 140 mph on the speedo. Yes, i tried it once. My life flashed before my eyes. It was fast, and even fun for a little while. I found just driving a motorcyle was dangerous enough for me. 4x-8x burn is my comfort zone, because it works 100% of the time, and i am in no hurry for a quality output. To each his own. You do what you want, just don't try to get me to follow you off this cliff without some great proof. I haven't seen it yet. Maybe one day, the drives/media/systems will be able to do 16x burns, i am not saying the world is flat, or that things can't improve over time. Most of us have done this speed test, and found what we like. I like having less coasters lying around.
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Ok, just to prove it to myself, and in the name of science, i decided to do another 16x burn and POST the results, not just talk about it.
Movie: Fantastic 4 DVD Shrink re-author movie only
Media: Verbatim DVD+R 16x Advanced AZO
Burn Speed: 16x
and here is the result.
Now that is why you dont see responsible ppl saying 16x is great, and why doesn't everybody try it. I honestly expected it to make it, and was going to post the pif scan to prove the point. Now im gonna do the same movie at 4x. Wanna bet i make it to the pif scan? I consider my system not extreme top of the line, but not bottom of the line either. I never had a Verb fail to burn before. Hmmm i must have been doing something wrong. Oh yeah, burning waaaaaaaaaaayyy too fast. One of the basic rules violated. All because i listened to someone on the net who said 4x burning ppl were stupid and old fashioned.. Oh well, it only cost me one disc. I can post the scan of the 4x SUCESSFULL burn later, and will if needed. We want ppl to have a sucessfull burn, not what i just got. Go ahead and tell me to check my system settings, or better yet, get a stronger power supply..LOL :) too funny, i really crack myself up sometimes. Maybe if i tried the cold burn method it would work.. Come on ppl. These settings and speeds/media are suggested for a very good reason. THEY WORK. Other ways may work, or you could get what just happend to me. Now, if i didn't know any better, i might start buying hardware and software figuring something else must be wrong... The drive is rated at 16x... the media is rated at 16x.. my firmware is up2date, all prgs up2date... ??? $$$$ later,, go back to 4x and everything is fine.. I just proved this 16x theory to myself, with an open mind, ready to let science/programs prove the point with real data. This is enough data for me. 1 disc was worth it. Guess ill go back to my old school 4x-6x burn speed. Now i have another coaster and i didn't really need one. Thanks alot you 16x burn lovers. I listened to you, and it cost me a disc. Listen to alkohol, kivory666, and all the other regulars here if you want success. Like living on the edge?? Listen to the 16x guys. Oh, and check out the top speed on your ride too. What a rush!!! Just make sure your life insurance is up2date also.. Crash and Burn!!!!!!!
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And now the SUCCESSFULL 4x burn, facts, not fiction:
Now how did i get it to burn?? Chicken blood? Magic 1500 watt power suppy? Put the disc in the fridge? I know, i must have bought a new burner? NO...Burned it at 4x, and it made it. I changed NOTHING ELSE in this test. Now, implying i am a moron (i have a tested IQ of 150, not saying im smart, but i am no moron), i work on and run the machines that make computer chips (maybe even the one you are using now) in a clean room fab. Long ago i fixed/worked on electronic warfare systems on B-52s, amongst other planes. I've burned a few DVDs in my time and plan on burning more. The only advice on burn speed i am going to give to ppl who are having problems burning, and come to this forum for help is burn at 4x if you want to stack the odds in your favor. Burn faster if you feel lucky. Everyone out there has a right to their own opinion, including me, and you just got it. Burning my way doesn't cost you any money. Burning 16x can cost you at least one disc of very good media. It happened here on planet earth..
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I really am on the fence tbh. I am in no way an expert on any of this, but do have a little (n i mean little) bit of experience with this stuff. I'm doing a computer science degree at a top english university, and whilst DVD burns/media/hardware is in no way included in the course, topics such as computer systems are, so i do know about system resources and how multitasking can affect burn quality blah blah blah.
Anyways...from my personal experience, i've gotta say that i find that different speeds work for different media FOR ME! It's probably completely different for other people. I've gone through various media/burners/speeds and have had different results.
I'm not trying to persuade anybody that 4x is better than 16x or 16x is better than 4x or anything, i'd just like to post the results to a little experiment i'm about to carry out so readers can come to their own conclusions. It is of my opinion that, if you want to know what speed works best for you...don't be afraid to try different speeds out and compare quality!
The setup will be as follows (Btw, if anyone has any suggestions or complaints as to how i'm carrying this test out, please say):
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1) Shutdown PC
2) Load up PC
3) Close down unnecessary applications (msn messenger, gmail notifier, quicktime etc)
4) Disable network connections <--- Just to make sure :-P
5) Close all windows and open DVD Decrypter
6) Burn 8_Mile iso using DVD Decrypter at 4x using Lite-on 1635S
7) Scan disc quality using Nero CD-DVD Speed and take screenshot of result
8) Scan disc quality using Nero CD-DVD Speed using the BenQ 1640 and take screenshot of result
8) Restart PC and repeat for ISO write speed of max speed
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I realise a lot of this i needn't do, but i jst don't want anybody coming on saying "oh, you didn't scan the disc in a different drive to the one you wrote in" or any other excuses.
Also, i might also do the same thing but burning images using Nero. Not sure yet. Just trying to get some general, accurate comparisons to start with...
Any complaints/questions/comments?? Come on...you know you want to :-D
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hi :)
may as well have my say as well.
1) i'm not teck minded. (don't know what goes on under the bonnet)
2) i'm not highly educated. (don't want to be)
3) i own and skipper a fishing trawler. (not a fancy occupation)
BUT, more important i know how to burn dvd's, and to get an error free burn, never exceed 1/2 the rated speed of the media
as for scans, they can be manipulated to read what ever you desire.
( Maxburn :) that's not directed at your scan)
burn and play, thats the only real test
we cater for the newbies more than anyone else on AD, so therefore to give advise like burn flat out is sheer iresponsible. we may as well tell them to use memorex cmc media to go with it just to make sure of a good burn.
come on, if you have to talk, talk sense
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You folks might get better results at the higher speeds if you invested in some better burners. Most of the new ones allow you to burn 8x rated media at 12x or even 16x. The manufacturer recommends that you use the high speed settings - they have invested a LOT of money in the technology which produces consistent burning stability at the higher speeds.
Again, I burn all my disks at 16X and have no problems what so ever - and I still do most of my burning using OLD NEC ND-3500 and ND-3520 drives.
My Media of choice is 16x Ritek RO4 disks. I buy them by the 100 pack at Newegg.com
In all of my disk burning, over the last three years, I have NEVER had the software stop burning, or say (Burn Failed) - Not Once! Every now and then one of my disks will fail the Read Error Check, but the fail rate for that test is around 1 percent, and I usually let a different drive run the Read Test. The drive which wrote the disk is NOT a good drive to do a read test with.
I hate to say it, but when you folks tell me that you can't get good results at 8x or 16x, I have to question your hardware or your technique. One or the other is screwed up; big time!
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Everyone else has their opinion, so I will put my 2 cents worth here one time. Using "Quality Media I always burn at 1/2 the rated write speed for the media, or 8x, whichever is greater. Generally I use TYs YUDEN000 T02(DVD+R) and burn at 8x, Verbatim 16x(DVD+R)at 8x. Most everything else get's burned at 4x. I have great luck with this method.
Use The Best Media for The Best Burns! TYs, Verbs,(Made in Taiwan) Sony MIJs (YUDEN000 T02), Sony Made in Taiwan DVD+R 16x, Maxell MIJ, RITEK G05.
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SMSMike - please save your log after burning or do a scan using DVDInfopro (downladable for free) and post your results here, even if it's only a copy and paste. My current burner is only a 4x max but I am still convinced a 16x burner will burn at 16x.
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Here is a log from Nero on a burn done with a Plextor 716A burner on a Sony +R disk that is rated at 8x done at 16x
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ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b
Recorder: <PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A> Version: 1.08 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 8192kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <LITE-ON DVD SOHD-167T >Version: 9S1B - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVD SOHD-167T atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HP DVD Writer 640c atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 7L250S0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6L100M0 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON DVD SOHD-167T E: CDRom0
HP DVD Writer 640c F: CDRom1
PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A H: CDRom3
_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A G: CDRom2
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2046MB (2095180kB)
Free physical memory: 1628MB (1667676kB)
Memory in use : 20
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
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UDF/ISO compilation
7:54:51 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started
7:54:51 PM #2 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 552
Content of VIDEO_TS.IFO has been modified
7:54:51 PM #3 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 552
Content of VIDEO_TS.BUP has been modified
7:54:51 PM #4 Phase 113 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed
7:54:51 PM #5 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
UDF document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
7:54:51 PM #6 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted
7:54:51 PM #7 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
7:54:51 PM #8 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A running
7:54:51 PM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
7:54:51 PM #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
7:54:51 PM #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
7:54:52 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 1866815 (414:50.65, 3646MB)
7:54:52 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
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Recorder: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
7:54:52 PM #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1866816 (1866816) = #1866816/414:50.66
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1866816 blocks [PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A]
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7:54:52 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3823239168, ISRC ""
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1866816 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
7:54:52 PM #18 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started
7:54:52 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.
7:54:52 PM #20 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed
7:54:52 PM #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)
7:54:52 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
7:54:52 PM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 258
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
7:54:52 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5418
Drive: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A
Book Type request [PX]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
7:54:52 PM #25 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5065
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM
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Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
7:55:04 PM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
19:55:04.296 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A\H2 T0 : Queue again later
7:59:58 PM #28 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1866816 (1C7C40h), lenght 0 blocks
7:59:58 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
8:00:18 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5418
Drive: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A
Book Type request [PX]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
8:00:19 PM #31 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 3/11/2005 5:28:13 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for src)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
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smsmike
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12. December 2005 @ 15:57 |
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Discmania (Senior Member) 12. December 2005 @ 20:01
SMSMike - please save your log after burning or do a scan using DVDInfopro (downladable for free) and post your results here, even if it's only a copy and paste. My current burner is only a 4x max but I am still convinced a 16x burner will burn at 16x.
I have never run a log with Nero, but I'll take a look and see if Nero Digital will do one. I have DVD Info Pro and I use it to do Read Error Tests. DO you want a screen snapshot of the results, or the entire log? Keep in mind that DVD Info Pro produces a HUGE log file!
I just backed up Dukes of Hazzard (Unrated) so that will be my test disk..
- Mike -
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12. December 2005 @ 16:18 |
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@smsmike
If you backed up using Nero then you have a log file in your Nero History file. Program Files/Ahead/Nero/Nero History.
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12. December 2005 @ 16:28 |
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Post some scans using Nero disc quality of those 16x burns.
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smsmike
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12. December 2005 @ 16:57 |
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Ok, a couple of things up front. Late last night I got an E-Mail from a friend, and she told me to try a NEW modified Firmware from a couple of programers at this site http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/
I installed their new NEC Firmware on my ND-3500A drive and it STILL burned at 16x with no problems. It is the FIRST hacked Firmware for my 3500 that did not give me all kinds of grief. Anyway, it added Bit Setting, Rip Lock and RPC free settings to the drive. So, the disks produced with Nero on this run were Auto Set to DVD-ROM prior to burning. Nero Digital does that unless you tell it not to.
Here is the Nero Digital Burn Log for Dukes of Hazzard at 16x
********** Nero Recode 2 **********
Version: 2.2.6.17
Michael ---
Project type: Copy entire DVD
Target size: DVD5 (2282925)
21:20:49 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 56
Command table patching started...
21:20:49 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 133
All tables successfully patched!
Burn settings:
Target: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG
Number of copies: 1
Write speed: 0 KB/s
Temp folder: T:\temp (151993311232 bytes free)
Direct burning: false
Target media: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-R DL, DVD+R DL
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
Compress Adaptive: true
21:21:05 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231
Compile DVD: init
VTS_01 Title Vobs [12817 vobus] 4458.30MB -> 4458.30MB [R 1.00]
Video: 4085.20MB, extra: 373.10MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. 0. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch English 348.07MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 0 streams
21:21:06 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
21:21:06 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 488
Writing to disc: DVD+R
21:21:06 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 502
Free capacity on disc: 2283092 sectors (2295104)
21:21:06 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 479
Compile DVD: burning 2283092 sectors (2282725 required)
21:21:06 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 656
Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4459.16MB (4458.45MB obtained)
21:21:06 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 524
Compiling DVD Volume started
21:21:42 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB
21:22:16 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_01_3.VOB
21:22:48 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_01_4.VOB
21:23:20 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_01_5.VOB
21:23:24 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs
VTS_01 Title Vobs:
Original 4458.30MB -> Expected 4458.30MB -> Output 4458.30MB
Finished error 0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 0
Original encoded = 12817
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 373.10MB
Source video size = 4085.20MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 0]
21:23:28 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 547
Compile DVD: completed successfuly (4458.45MB)
21:23:28 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 1096
Burning 9 files with total size of 4675020800 bytes on hard disk
21:23:28 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 5:35:34 PM
Nero API version: 6.6.0.16
Using interface version: 6.6.0.9
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\
Application: Ahead\Nero Recode
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG> Version: 2.TG - HA 1 TA 2 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1200JB-00DUA3 75.1 nvidesm Port 0 ID 0 DMA: ON
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600JB-00EVA0 15.0 nvidesm Port 0 ID 1 DMA: ON
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG2.TG nvidesm Port 0 ID 0 DMA: ON
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A 2.18 nvidesm Port 0 ID 1 DMA: ON
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A F: CDRom1
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG E: CDRom0
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048048kB)
Free physical memory: 666MB (682732kB)
Memory in use : 34
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
12.12.2005
NeroAPI
9:23:28 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation started
9:23:28 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
9:23:28 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files sorted
9:23:28 PM #4 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6262
Book Type counter: 498, Book Type selected in EEPROM, command version 4
9:23:28 PM #5 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6262
Book Type counter: 498, Book Type selected in EEPROM, command version 4
9:23:28 PM #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
9:23:28 PM #7 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG running
9:23:28 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
9:23:28 PM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
9:23:28 PM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
9:23:29 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2283263 (507:23.38, 4459MB)
9:23:29 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
9:23:29 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG, Media type: DVD+R
9:23:29 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
9:23:29 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2283264 (2283264) = #2283264/507:23.39
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2283264 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG]
--------------------------------------------------------------
9:23:29 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4676124672, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2283264 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
9:23:29 PM #17 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files started
9:23:29 PM #18 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.
9:23:29 PM #19 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files completed
9:23:29 PM #20 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)
9:23:29 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
9:23:29 PM #22 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1180
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 2, LUN 0, buffer 0x095E0600
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00
9:23:29 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6262
Book Type counter: 498, Book Type selected in EEPROM, command version 4
9:23:29 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6262
Book Type counter: 498, Book Type selected in EEPROM, command version 4
9:23:29 PM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6262
Book Type counter: 498, Book Type selected in EEPROM, command version 4
9:23:29 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5359
Drive: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG
Book Type request [NEC]: DVD-ROM, write to RAM
select Book Type setting from RAM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
9:23:29 PM #27 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5065
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM
9:23:29 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 665
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
9:30:08 PM #29 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<_NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2283264 (22D700h), lenght 0 blocks
9:30:08 PM #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
9:30:35 PM #31 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6262
Book Type counter: 498, Book Type selected in RAM, command version 4
9:30:35 PM #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6262
Book Type counter: 498, Book Type selected in RAM, command version 4
9:30:35 PM #33 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5359
Drive: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG
Book Type request [NEC]: DVD-ROM, write to RAM
select Book Type setting from RAM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
9:30:35 PM #34 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
21:30:39 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 301
Compile DVD: exit
I stopped counting when I reached 60!
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