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lauzzie
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22. January 2006 @ 18:21 |
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In the early days when I first started burning I used to stick a label on each DVD. Most of these disks do not play properly. I think it is a combination of the Label on the Disk and maybe not such good media to start with. when I play them they skip and become pixelated and then stop completely. Sometimes they play and sometimes they dont. My question is: If I recopy these disks with labels onto better media with no labels am I going to get a decent copy or am I just wasting my time.
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brobear
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22. January 2006 @ 18:28 |
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Jitter is a problem recording as with playing. If the labels weren't properly centered with a good tool, then they're probably off balance and causing jitter. If there is a problem with the quality of the backup, then it boils down to bad input, bad output. If possible, do the backups on good media from the original source, and hopefully that isn't too scratched up to cause problems. At some of the office supply stores they have label removing liquid. Just make sure it doesn't damage the laminate layer of the media. Why bother removing the label, if it destroys the disc?
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22. January 2006 @ 18:58 |
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Soaking in warm water will help to remove labels as well. A trick to remove adhesive would be using WD-40 on the final sticky surface to clear off the balance, then wash and rinse very well afterwards and dry with a micro fiber rag.
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brobear
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22. January 2006 @ 19:17 |
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Best be careful though. Petroleum based products break up adhesive and gum substances, but they are also hard on plastics. If a petro product is left on to where it clouds the laminate, it effects the ability to read it. So if using WD40 or similar product, don't leave it on long and as pointed out, clean it well.
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ScubaBud
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23. January 2006 @ 00:56 |
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Thanks Brobear,
I should have used the words immediately rinse off as well! :)
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brobear
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23. January 2006 @ 01:37 |
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True... ;) Would you believe one of the first practical applications of this knowledge that I had occasion to use was getting bubble gum out of children's hair with lighter fluid. Absolutely no smoking and wash the hair immediately. ;) Works on upholstery and elsewhere. LOL Startin to sound more like the "Science Guy" thread than DVD. :)
Wonder what happened to lauzzie? I was going to ask when those early days were. When said that way, it sounds like a long time.
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lauzzie
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23. January 2006 @ 23:10 |
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Hi Guys, Lauzzie is still here. When I said in the early days I meant about 18 months ago!!!!!! It seems like a long time ago to me. I am going to try and copy a couple with labels on and see what sort of result I get. I am using TDK disks at the moment and seem to be having no trouble but other threads have said they are no good. I dont think I will try the WD40 as I will probably make more of a mess than I started with. Thanks for the help.
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brobear
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23. January 2006 @ 23:24 |
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Depends on which TDKs you got, they're not all the same. Where were the ones you have made? That's on the package label; Taiwan, Singapore, different places.
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lauzzie
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23. January 2006 @ 23:45 |
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I am in Australia and the TDK packet says made in Taiwan.
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brobear
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24. January 2006 @ 00:53 |
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The Japanese are supposed to be the best ones. I've found a lot of the Taiwan media to be good as well. Taiwan has developed a bad name because they also export some of the worst quality media. I sometimes wonder if every backroom in Taiwan isn't cranking out DVDs and CDs. ;)
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lauzzie
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24. January 2006 @ 20:20 |
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The 3 spools of 25 disks I have all say Taiwan. Do you think thats all I can get here or is every packet different.
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24. January 2006 @ 20:42 |
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Manufacturers name says TDK Corp. Manufacturer ID says TTGO2.
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24. January 2006 @ 21:26 |
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OK, those will probably be ok if their working for you now. Some ppl don't like TDK media of any kind period. At least you didn't get any that were made by cmc magnetics.
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25. January 2006 @ 00:30 |
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Mort is right, the ones you have should be good. Some forums rate TDK as a top brand and some put it lower. Opinions like the wind have a tendency to vary and shift. ;) So use em if they work good for you. I don't think TDK has started using CMC as a supplier yet, but with the way things change... Use the Identifier and beware of brands that use CMC, even Verbatim on their less expensive MIT media.
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25. January 2006 @ 02:04 |
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Just an update from another thread about labels. I had to see what effects WD40 would have on a disk if left for an extended period of time. Bottom line, the disk wasn't affected in any way, either side.
I sprayed both sides of the disk till they were saturated and left it for just over 5 hours sitting in the WD40. After sitting that long the sharpie ink was loose on the disk so I rinsed, washed with soap and water, rinsed again, dried with a micro-fiber cloth, placed it in my BenQ1640 and you can see the results below. This morning I did another scan with the exact same results as below.
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brobear
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25. January 2006 @ 02:16 |
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Way to test there Scubabud. I was under the impression that petrol products would damage plastics. Are you suggesting we now use WD-40 to polish up those dull looking DVDs? ;) I don't think I'll go as far as using carb cleaner; but that's a different base.
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25. January 2006 @ 02:41 |
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Good morning Brobear :)
I just had to see what would take place if someone FORGOT to rinse it off for a long period of time. I was actually hoping that I would come back to see that disk all shriveled up, but no dice. :)
The idea to use the WD40 on residual glue came from when I used WD40 to remove stickers from PVC parts by soaking them in a 5 gallon container full of it. I?d leave them soaking in the container overnight and the labels would be floating in the WD40 in the morning, completely off of the parts, now glue free as well. These WERE NOT DVD?s, just Schedule 80 PVC couplers that were used on an invention of mine a few years back. I?ve never had a problem so I figured why not give it a try. :)
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25. January 2006 @ 03:29 |
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Guess that polycarbonate is more impervious to petroleum products than many of us thought. I think I'll give it a shot on one of my old discs just for the heck of it. That would be better than doing the water soak deal and still having to clean off the glue.
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25. January 2006 @ 03:50 |
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I know that most auto parts stores and I believe Home Depot sell WD40 in gallon containers, alot easier then just spraying them. :)
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25. January 2006 @ 04:35 |
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Besides, the aerosol has a tendency to go all over the place and in some cases end up everywhere but where you want it. ;) Wonder if throwing it in some kerosene would work just as well?
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25. January 2006 @ 08:09 |
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brobear,
TDK is buying some of their media from cmc mag for their +r format. If you buy any TDK dvd+r's there is actually a pretty good chance of getting some cmc mag garbage. Here's some media codes.
TDK DVD+R 4x (CMC MAG.F01)
TDK DVD+R 4x (RICOHJPNR01)
TDK DVD+R 8x (CMC MAG.E01)
TDK DVD+R 8x (RICOHJPN R02)
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25. January 2006 @ 09:09 |
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Is there anyway you know of to tell which is which in the packaging? The Ricoh media is good stuff. They made or make some of the +R media for other top brands, Verbatim among them.
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25. January 2006 @ 09:19 |
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There's no way of telling by the label that I know of. I agree that ricohjpn is good stuff or at least used to be when it was sold under the branded ritek name. Riteks tools and ricohs blueprints.
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25. January 2006 @ 09:55 |
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I was just under the impression it was just Ritek wanting to get into another marketing sector. Until recently I had not heard of Ritek making it's own +R. Still haven't seen one, but I hear they're making them. The Ritek-RiData appeared to be a marketing ploy by Ritek to get into the +R retail arena. A friend recorded some DVDs for me once and used some of his Ritek-RiData that turned out to be the same media I'd been using, Ricoh. I have several brands that all use the same Ricoh and the manufacturer codes match to a "T". So, it appears Ricoh was selling the media to everyone who would buy and selling the same under the Ricoh brand. I was unaware that Ricoh had Ritek manufacturing the media for the Ricoh line.
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