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6. February 2006 @ 09:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@dvdnuts & jamjaw13

You're welcome. Glad I could help and now enjoy your backup to the fullest.

Best of lucks and happy burning!!

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
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6. February 2006 @ 10:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, right where i get to VTS_01_4...it gives me errors, it like stops writing to the HD. with dvdfab and DVD Decrypter..could this be that I chose a bad DVD Disc out of the other 12 at BB?

RM
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8. February 2006 @ 19:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried Using DVDFAB to decrytp but it's only getting 1.79GIGS of data on decryption.

Anyone else encounter this?

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8. February 2006 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@MR1234 & Dvdcopier

If you guys are using at least DVDFAB Decrypter 2.9.6.8 or the latest 2.9.7.0, then there shouldn't be any issues ripping THE FOG at all. For my guide, I used DVDFAB Decrypter 2.9.6.8 to rip the movie and it ripped flawlessly to my hard drive.

Out of curiosity, did you guys had DVD43 or AnyDVD running in the background at all? Because if you have either DVD43 or AnyDVD running in the background while you're ripping the movie (THE FOG or any movies), then it "definitely" conflicts with DVDFAB Decrypter and that would gives you some kind of issues (i.e. short, smaller files/GB) after the ripping process. The same thing apply to VobBlanker 2.1.0.0, so I highly RECOMMEND you two (or anyone) to TURN OFF DVD43 or AnyDVD when ripping the movie with DVDFAB Decrypter or when you're "processing" the VIDEO_TS.IFO file through VobBlanker.

Best of lucks and happy burning!!

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
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9. February 2006 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think I had DVDIdle running. Ill try without,

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9. February 2006 @ 23:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, I am trying decryption now.


DVDFAB 2.9.6.9
NO DVDIdle,AnyDVD or any other program running in background.

Burning being used is Sony DRU 710-A

-Dvdc0pier

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10. February 2006 @ 15:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alkohol,
Thanks!! You da Man! Everything worked perfectly, and I can wave at Sony as I watch my backed-up copy of The Fog.
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12. February 2006 @ 16:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alkohol

i allways use dvdshrink to burn movies if that doesnt works i use dvddecrypter if that doesnt works i use dvddecrypter but in read mode then if nothing of this works theres dvdfabdecrypter.
in this case i did learn that i have to turn dvd4tree off to use dvdfabdecrypter....which is good thanks for that.
but about VOB blanker...this time i didnt have to use it.
the movie was burned without problems only with dvdfab and dvdshrink
but i think i'll use vobblanker in "the legend of zorro" thats the one that i couldnt burn.

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Quote:
alkohol

i allways use dvdshrink to burn movies if that doesnt works i use dvddecrypter if that doesnt works i use dvddecrypter but in read mode then if nothing of this works theres dvdfabdecrypter.
in this case i did learn that i have to turn dvd4tree off to use dvdfabdecrypter....which is good thanks for that.
but about VOB blanker...this time i didnt have to use it.
the movie was burned without problems only with dvdfab and dvdshrink
but i think i'll use vobblanker in "the legend of zorro" thats the one that i couldnt burn.
@sergiovv

It is recommend to use VobBlanker to "process" and "filter" out any left over craps, junks, dummy cells, fake pgcs, dummy sectors, etc. Keep in mind that even if you've successfully ripped the movie with DVDFAB Decrypter or DVD Decrypter, you'll see issues while "transcoding" with DVD Shrink or Nero Recode most of the times. In some cases, even if you've already backed up the movie into a DVD-R or DVD+R disc, but once you played your backup on a standalone dvd player, it will freeze, pause, jump, has glitches, or black screen at certain scenes (from the beginning or in the middle parts), missing some parts of the movie, etc. Therefore, I've always recommended others to use VobBlanker to process the already ripped VIDEO_TS.IFO file. VobBlanker is probably one of the most strongest free tool to clean out junks out there, in my humble opinion. In addition, you can easily "preview/play" and "cut or blank out" any scenes, pgcs, cells, VTS or Extras that you don't want it.

You may have already seen the other method (DVD Decrypter, PgcEdit + PSL plugin & FixVTS), which it clearly stated (or required) to run FixVTS to clean out any left over craps or junks just to be on the safe side.

So in conclusion, it's wise to process your already ripped VIDEO_TS file through VobBlanker or FixVTS, if you truly want your backup to be 100% safe (a successfully true backup free of craps or junks). According to my knowledge, I've never encountered any dvds/movies that VobBlanker can not handle regardless if it's RipGuard or ARccOS protections, once it has been ripped via DVDFAB Decrypter or DVD Decrypter into the hard drive.

Yes, I've always "processed" my VIDEO_TS.IFO file through VobBlanker and I've never experienced any issues at playback whatsoever. Evidently, I just want my backups to be true and free of craps that's all, or perhaps it's called "my preference" -- I can wait 12 minutes for my VIDEO_TS.IFO to "process" through VobBlanker.

However, the choice is yours.

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
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12. February 2006 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
every day we learn something new thanks to somebody this time thank you ...you know exactly how to explain and also thanks for take some minutes of your time to teach how to work in those softwares to people you dont know ...theres few people like you.

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12. February 2006 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're welcome mate. Anytime you see issue(s), just hollar at me or stop by this forum and I'm sure you'll get tons of knowledgeable members replies.

Best of lucks and happy burning!!

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
dvdnuts
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13. February 2006 @ 14:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ALKOHOL,

as usual, no one does a better job explaining things in details like you. You are absolut right, I tried Madagascar w shrink, decrypter, DVD43, recode...blabla..and eventually gave up and went the "Alkohol way"

DvdFab decryter, VOB blanker and Shrink

VOB blanker is just amazing...but I still have to master it. I usually just use "process" since I dont know what to blank out etc...

Also, I did a Wallace Grommet no problem w shrink, but as Alkohol said, it freezes a couple of places, and jump back to the front.

Alkohol, so w VobBlanker I can blank out stuffs I dont want, but there is NO visuals (video) like shrink for me to know what to blank out..see what I mean ? or maybe am not using it the right way ?

Suggestion: maybe we should have a string for ALL problematic DVDS, and add onto it as we go. This will give everyone warning ahead of time which ones need drastic measures, instead of wasting time trying diff. stuffs.
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14. February 2006 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well,Alcohol, I gave it a shot and folllowed your instructions. I used VOBBLANKER 2.1.0.0 to handle the rip file created with DVDFAB DECRYPTER 2.9.7.2. When it finished, it said, "Finished. No Errors, 0 Warnings". I then closed it out.

So I opened DVD Shrink & opened the file folder designated "VOBBLANKER FLIGHT PLAN\VIDEO_TS. I clicked on it & as it started to ANALYZE at about 4 % it came up with this error. "Failure to read file E:\VOBBLANKER FLIGHTPLAN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB. Invalid access to memory location.

I was sure I had used VOBBLANKER correctly as when it processed the ripped file, it came up with NoErrors, 0 Warnings. I'm really disappointed. Can U offer a solution? If DVD43 was running in tne background shown down in the taskbar at the bottom, could that affect the result? Also,if Norton Antivirus & Norton Personal Firewall are running, could either of those affect the result?
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14. February 2006 @ 08:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@PWANJO

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT HERE: make sure you don't run/have AnyDVD, DVD43 or any kind of cracking engines running in the background when you're ripping the movie with DVDFAB Decrypter. The same thing apply to VobBlanker when you're "processing" the VIDEO_TS.IFO file through VobBlanker. Because if you had AnyDVD, DVD43 or any kind of cracking engines running while you're running VobBlanker to "process", then YOU ARE LIKELY to end up with some kind of errors, such as "unsynchronized VOB, file is too small (1 or 2 GB only), file is too big, some parts are missing, missing scenes or VTS, invalid data structure, etc." when you load/import into DVD Shrink or Nero Recode 2.

So my advise is to TURN OFF AnyDVD, DVD43 or any other cracking engines when you're using DVDFAB Decrypter to rip and when you're processing the VIDEO_TS.IFO file through VobBlanker 2.1.0.0. Another recommend way is to disconnect from the net and Norton to prevent from getting updates cause that is likely to trigger any glitches as well.

Good luck!!



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Alkohol, so w VobBlanker I can blank out stuffs I dont want, but there is NO visuals (video) like shrink for me to know what to blank out..see what I mean ? or maybe am not using it the right way?
@dvdnuts

Yes, you can easily "blank out" any unwanted scenes, unwanted previews/trailers, fbi warnings, other unwanted extras. All you need to do is click on any of those VTS and click on it's PGC(s) underneath and it will "automatically" play/preview on it's player at top-right screen. If you don't need it, then just BLANK those out, if it's something you needed it, then simply leave it as Process. In addition, if there is "nothing related" to the movie at all whatsoever, then it is safe to "BLANK" it out as well.

Sometimes you may need to double click on it's VTS, then click on it's cell/pgc, then click PREVIEW & PLAY to see what exactly those VTS or PGCs. Again, like I said, if you don't need it, then simply Blank it out.

Best of lucks and happy burning!!

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
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14. February 2006 @ 10:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just want to chime in and say thanks for the info on VOB Blanker Alkohol. Over the weekend I used it on Metallica A Year and a Half which has two sets in one. One is like an hour and a half long and the other is over two hours. After compression, disc was like 52% on the main movies. Not good. So I took your advice and tried it. First time through it worked like a charm. Split the two parts into two discs with working menu's/chapters.

I didn't mean to get off the topic, although I heard this movie wasn't very good... I just didn't want to start up another thread.

Strat

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14. February 2006 @ 14:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ALKOHOL:

"Many Thanks" for your comments after my problem with Flightplan. U were right. I think I had DVD43 running in the background & I was on the internet with Norton Antivirus running as well as Norton Personal Firewall. Also LOCALENG suggested I uninstall DVDFAB Decrypter & download it again & reinstall. Then try YOUR system again for troubling DVD's like this one,FOG etc. Your detailed instructions with photos of every step are awesome. U leave no stone unturned. Arniebear was also a great help initially with my grandson's BAMBI 2. Anyhow , "thank you" again. By the way, would this 3 program combo also work for THE SWORD OF ZORRO? FLIGHTPLAN now works fine after burning.

I would like to print out all your steps U show for THE FOG etc. but I'm having a problem because if U shink it to fit the page, the photos of the programs are not legible. I wanted to run it through my Epson RX620 printer & put it in a binder as I have with other articles but I can't see how I can print it properly. Any suggestions?
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14. February 2006 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ALKOHOL ....HELP !

Sorry for caps !

Right now am ripping Saw II. DVDFAB decryter was freaking slow...after 2 hours still on VOB 2.

I unstalled, reinstalled Fabdecrypter, same problem at VOB 4 this time..

tried DVD43, shrink, now DVD Decrypter, stuck at VOB 4 @ 55% since
last 20 minutes ???

whats next ?should I give up ?

I thought Dvdfab decryter, VOB Blanker and shrink would take care of EVERYTHING !

Alkohol, I think you got your match dude...
dvdnuts
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14. February 2006 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ ALKOHOL

Well am back... DVD Decrypter "failed to read sector...blabla.
failed to decrypt Vob_1_04 & Vob_1_05...I just pressed ignore to get to the end. Seems decryter skipped those two files. I will try to run thryu VOB Blanker....will let u know later...
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14. February 2006 @ 16:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvdnuts,
I Did it using PgcEdit w/ psl2 plug-in. I Looked and Alkohol does have a guide although I have not tried it his way I am sure it will work as his other guides have helped the noobs. You do not have to have recode as you can use Shrink. Just make sure the plug-in is installed in the proper spot

http://www.k-probe.com/backup-movies-DVDDecrypter-PgcEdit-VobBLan...

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@dvdnuts

You think SAW II is unrippable huh? Well, to be honest, I've never ran into any dvds/movies that DVDFAB Decrypter (the latest) and VobBlanker can not handle, regardless if it's RipGuard or ARccOS. So this is interesting for an experiment for me. Again, if you're "ripping" with DVDFAB Decrypter and "processing" the VIDEO_TS.IFO file through VobBlanker, then make sure you don't have AnyDVD, DVD43 or any kind of cracking engines running in the background. Otherwise, it will conflicts with both DVDFAB Decrypter or VobBlanker. DVDFAB Decrypter is already a wonderful ripper and VobBlanker is a powerful craps/junks, vts, pgcs, cells cleaner.

SAW 2 is worth a backup, I watched it on the big screen when it first came out. So I'll definitely need to have this one -- I still think the first one (SAW) is a little better though.

Anyways, I'll try to get a copy of SAW 2 and try my "VobBlanker + DVDFAB Decrypter method" first to see what's the result and I'll be sure to report back here alright. I'm thinking there are some VTS, PGCs or Cells that may needed to "blank" out in order to successfully backup in regards to SAW II. If for some reason, DVDFAB Decrypter failed to rip, then I'll try the other method "DVD Decrypter, PgcEdit + PSL plugins & FixVTS". I'm sure this method is flawless and I can assure that it will kill the encrypted sectors/protections smoothly.

Out of curiosity, have your tried to rip with the latest from DVDFAB Decrypter 2.9.7.2? Here, http://69.73.173.59/download/DVDFabDecrypter29.exe -- if you haven't done so.

In the mean time, try the link that Car.Mike provided, that's another powerful method to rip any dvds/movies that I've recently made. I'm pretty confident that you'll be able to rip and backup SAW II by following the guide carefully. Again, like "Car.Mike" mentioned, if you don't want to use Nero Recode 2, then just use DVD Shrink instead.


@CarMike buddy - thanks for pointing the guide/link for Newbies or those that needed helps.

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244

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15. February 2006 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks CAR-MIKE for help.

I downloaded PSL..but did not have time to use it yet...(learn)

Instead after trying DVD decryter, DVDFab decryter, Dvd fab express..both died, froze around the 70% mark...on the VOB_01_4..& 5

since I have to bring the movie today, at 4.00 AM, (yes! A.M)
I dloaded DVDFAB platinum...trial version...run it, this morning..BINGO! all were ripped to my HD.

Alkohol, somehow I go to the site to dload dvdfab, it gives me dvdfab express ??..which is the correct version to use bud ?
Is DVDfab platinum worth buying ?

so tonite i will shrink it, and let u guys know.
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15. February 2006 @ 07:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alkohol,

i have read somewhere in this forum that copy-protections vary from DVD to DVD (for SAME title) ...means some have it, some dont have.

Is this Myth or true ?

I tend to believe it, since some of the hardest titles to rip are problemfree for others

any idea ?
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15. February 2006 @ 08:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvdnuts,
Once you get it set up right it will go real quick. When you used DVDFab to burn the compilation you used the DVDFAB Decrypter as it is in the program. Have no idea why that worked but at least you got it done
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15. February 2006 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alkohol:

I've downloaded PgcEdit (PSL plugins . I couldn't seem to find "FixVTS" to download . Do these programs along with DVDFAB Decrypter, VOBBLANKER & Nero Recode 2 have to be used to make a backup of "The Sword of Zorro" or can I use the same method as your instructions for The Fog, The Cave, Flightplan, etc?
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15. February 2006 @ 13:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it's funny that it took you all hard work to do so.... all i did was rip to my hd with dvdfab then whent to shrinkto5 told it to shrink it 4.32gbs and shrink the fog.. and burned with Nero.. got all the menu's and ever thing on the disk.. PlAYS just fine on my 52 inck big screen... saved about 45 min's by doing so.. if you now you coping a sony dvd or a dule layer this is the fasted way lol..
 
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