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ZebUK
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5. April 2006 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm using the default settings that Decrypter came with when I installed it. Same goes for Shrink.

Sorry but I find it amusing how I'm being doubted even though I'm watching a copy of Narnia on my player as I type.
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Decrypter log

I 16:58:24 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 16:58:24 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 16:58:24 Initialising SPTI...
I 16:58:24 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 16:58:24 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 3 DVD±RWs!
W 16:58:26 Possible Structure Protection Found!
W 16:58:26 2 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 16:58:26 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
W 16:58:31 Possible Structure Protection Found!
W 16:58:31 2 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 16:58:31 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
I 16:58:35 Operation Started!
I 16:58:35 Source Device: [0:0:0] LITE-ON DVD SOHD-167T 9S1B (E:) (ATA)
I 16:58:35 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 16:58:35 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 16:58:35 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 16:58:35 Source Media Application Identifier: GEAR UDF Application
I 16:58:35 Source Media Implementation Identifier: GEAR UDF
I 16:58:35 Destination File: C:\LSE0NNW1.ISO
I 16:58:35 File Splitting: Auto
I 16:58:35 Read Speed: MAX
I 16:58:35 Remove Structure Protection: No
I 16:58:35 Bad Sector Removal Method: Normal
I 16:58:35 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 16:58:35 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 16:58:35 Extracting Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 4008431)
I 16:58:35 Found IFO File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - (LBA: 712 - 724)
I 16:58:35 Found VOB File: VIDEO_TS.VOB - (LBA: 725 - 135589) - KEY: N/A
I 16:59:32 Found BUP File: VIDEO_TS.BUP - (LBA: 135590 - 135602)
I 16:59:32 Found IFO File: VTS_01_0.IFO - (LBA: 135603 - 135671)
I 16:59:32 Found VOB File: VTS_01_0.VOB - (LBA: 135672 - 233093) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
I 17:00:09 Found VOB File: VTS_01_1.VOB - (LBA: 233094 - 757380) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
W 17:00:24 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 233254 - 233605)
I 17:00:24 Extracting Sectors...
W 17:00:38 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 233778 - 236941)
I 17:00:38 Extracting Sectors...
I 17:03:23 Found VOB File: VTS_01_2.VOB - (LBA: 757381 - 1281667) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
I 17:05:32 Found VOB File: VTS_01_3.VOB - (LBA: 1281668 - 1805954) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
I 17:07:23 Found VOB File: VTS_01_4.VOB - (LBA: 1805955 - 2330241) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
I 17:09:05 Found VOB File: VTS_01_5.VOB - (LBA: 2330242 - 2854528) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
I 17:10:58 Found VOB File: VTS_01_6.VOB - (LBA: 2854529 - 3378815) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
I 17:13:12 Found VOB File: VTS_01_7.VOB - (LBA: 3378816 - 3741162) - KEY: CA 36 1B 5C 5F
I 17:15:04 Found BUP File: VTS_01_0.BUP - (LBA: 3741163 - 3741231)
I 17:15:04 Found IFO File: VTS_02_0.IFO - (LBA: 3741232 - 3741240)
I 17:15:04 Found VOB File: VTS_02_0.VOB - (LBA: 3741241 - 3741846) - KEY: CB 4F 73 55 E4
I 17:15:04 Found VOB File: VTS_02_1.VOB - (LBA: 3741847 - 3742266) - KEY: CB 4F 73 55 E4
I 17:15:04 Found BUP File: VTS_02_0.BUP - (LBA: 3742267 - 3742275)
I 17:15:04 Found IFO File: VTS_03_0.IFO - (LBA: 3742276 - 3742283)
I 17:15:04 Found VOB File: VTS_03_0.VOB - (LBA: 3742284 - 3742470) - KEY: D6 51 27 4A 66
I 17:15:05 Found VOB File: VTS_03_1.VOB - (LBA: 3742471 - 3742914) - KEY: D6 51 27 4A 66
I 17:15:05 Found BUP File: VTS_03_0.BUP - (LBA: 3742915 - 3742922)
I 17:15:05 Found IFO File: VTS_04_0.IFO - (LBA: 3742923 - 3742931)
I 17:15:05 Found VOB File: VTS_04_0.VOB - (LBA: 3742932 - 3743118) - KEY: CD EF 31 E1 65
I 17:15:05 Found VOB File: VTS_04_1.VOB - (LBA: 3743119 - 3745827) - KEY: CD EF 31 E1 65
I 17:15:06 Found BUP File: VTS_04_0.BUP - (LBA: 3745828 - 3745836)
I 17:15:06 Found IFO File: VTS_05_0.IFO - (LBA: 3745837 - 3745845)
I 17:15:06 Found VOB File: VTS_05_0.VOB - (LBA: 3745846 - 3746032) - KEY: D5 17 7F D9 45
I 17:15:06 Found VOB File: VTS_05_1.VOB - (LBA: 3746033 - 3752527) - KEY: D5 17 7F D9 45
I 17:15:09 Found BUP File: VTS_05_0.BUP - (LBA: 3752528 - 3752536)
I 17:15:09 Found IFO File: VTS_06_0.IFO - (LBA: 3752537 - 3752545)
I 17:15:09 Found VOB File: VTS_06_0.VOB - (LBA: 3752546 - 3752732) - KEY: C1 3B D1 6F 64
I 17:15:09 Found VOB File: VTS_06_1.VOB - (LBA: 3752733 - 3753524) - KEY: C1 3B D1 6F 64
I 17:15:09 Found BUP File: VTS_06_0.BUP - (LBA: 3753525 - 3753533)
I 17:15:09 Found IFO File: VTS_07_0.IFO - (LBA: 3753534 - 3753549)
I 17:15:09 Found VOB File: VTS_07_0.VOB - (LBA: 3753550 - 3753736) - KEY: C7 0D 72 08 CF
I 17:15:10 Found VOB File: VTS_07_1.VOB - (LBA: 3753737 - 3930289) - KEY: C7 0D 72 08 CF
I 17:16:15 Found BUP File: VTS_07_0.BUP - (LBA: 3930290 - 3930305)
I 17:16:15 Found IFO File: VTS_08_0.IFO - (LBA: 3930306 - 3930314)
I 17:16:15 Found VOB File: VTS_08_0.VOB - (LBA: 3930315 - 3930501) - KEY: C1 62 E1 44 3E
I 17:16:15 Found VOB File: VTS_08_1.VOB - (LBA: 3930502 - 3944212) - KEY: C1 62 E1 44 3E
I 17:16:21 Found BUP File: VTS_08_0.BUP - (LBA: 3944213 - 3944221)
I 17:16:21 Found IFO File: VTS_09_0.IFO - (LBA: 3944222 - 3944231)
I 17:16:21 Found VOB File: VTS_09_0.VOB - (LBA: 3944232 - 3944418) - KEY: C2 3B 81 E4 3D
I 17:16:21 Found VOB File: VTS_09_1.VOB - (LBA: 3944419 - 4008418) - KEY: C2 3B 81 E4 3D
I 17:16:47 Found BUP File: VTS_09_0.BUP - (LBA: 4008419 - 4008428)
I 17:16:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:18:12
I 17:16:47 Average Read Rate: 7,341 KB/s (5.3x) - Maximum Read Rate: 10,808 KB/s (7.8x)



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5. April 2006 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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They didn't cause me or my player any problems - they were left intact when I backed up the movie.
How many times do I need to say, when you edit out the problems and have "movie only", it works. Note though that you are editing and you have movie only. Many of us prefer at least having navigation. The way I do it, I keep about everything but foreign languages and the DTS sound.

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ZebUK
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5. April 2006 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As I stated in the topic that is now closed, after trying to backup the entire movie ISO using Shrink its working fine. Bit slow because of the amount of compression its having to work on but I've not had any problems so far.
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ZebUK
I don't doubt your word about having a movie you're transcoding. As I noted several times, if you can get a rip, you can edit the problems out, it's especially easy if you go movie only. I just find the copy you backed up suspect. Default settings with DVD Decrypter with ignore errors and O retries has this Region 1 copy at 5% and 45 minutes into the rip. It only takes about 18 minutes in File Mode without the ignore, and about the same with AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter. So, ISO is a no go with this copy. 45 minutes tells me it's a waste of time and I'm shutting it off.

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I see what you're saying but my Narnia finished ripping in ISO mode in about 30 or 35 minutes - maybe its also down to the reader?

When I've finished making a backup of the entire film with no editing I'll let you know the results including how it plays. I've no idea why your rip is taking so long - most strange.
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5. April 2006 @ 13:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
btw, my Narnia is region 2 and is a rental copy.
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ZebUK
I'll put my system up against any for encoding and ripping. There's no flaws in the software or equipment.

You've already said you're doing movie only, what is it about editing you don't get. Movie only means you edited out everything else. If you're doing it differently, you should have told us you changed your mind. In which case, you still have to edit out VTS_01_1.VOB. You need to review that thread Creaky pointed out for you. You're just repeating much of the same jibberish as passed before. The content of an ISO is the same as the Video_TS. You're not miraculously bypassing copyright protection, by the manner in which you read it. If you look inside an ISO, you'll find the Video_TS folder with the accompanying IFO, BUP, and VOB files inside.

Here's a screenshot of that problematic ISO rip. I didn't include it all due to sheer length. It went on for about 50 minutes.


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@ZebUK - what's strange is that you think i've closed the other topic to deny you free speech. funny how i linked to this one and am not stopping you say anything :)

i have already posted that i only ever do movie only, that alone gets me better success than ppl that do the whole disc, plus different regions have different protections even on the same film sometimes. i'm in UK and in this instance i honestly can't remember what i used to do Narnia even though it was only a few days ago. i backup shedloads of my films and there are categorically some that cannot be done without extra help from the likes of AnyDVD or DVDFab Decrypter etc. Period. i suggest you trawl thru that link i provided as you will see what we mean.... the devil's in the details..

..plus no-one minds you helping, it's just 'fraid you haven't got the Holy Grail of dvd ripping there..



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@ZebUK - without you thinking i'm stopping free speech, copying rental movies is illegal and also against the rules of this site



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Do us a favor and download the trial of AnyDVD, just for test purposes. You don't need to keep it. LOL Open Narnia and then open the info window and give us a copy of the info window.



This shows the copyright protection from the Region 1 release that I've backed up. It was trouble free doing it a number of ways.

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No encryptions on movies at all? dont believe it.

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5. April 2006 @ 14:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, it seems you misunderstood something I said as well.

I stated that although I am watching a copy of Narnia right now I am also using Shrink to compress the entire ISO of Narnia and no problems have been encountered so far. Just in case you have a problem understanding plain English I'll state that the version I'm encoding now is a completely unedited version ripped with default settings using Decrypter. I'll also state again that no errors have been encountered so far.

I also stated in an earlier post that I didn't want to get into any arguments and it seems to me that you are trying to goad me into one so I'm going leave now and let you get on with your attempt at debunking whatever I say. I may appear to be a newbie on here but I have extensive IT experience going back 27 years. Granted, not a great deal of it relates to DVD copying but I do know how to use applications.

From my own experience in the past of stripping copy protection from commercial games, phreaking the telecommunications systems and other activities you don't need to have a great setup to beat something, it just takes a little patience and understanding.

I've no idea which country you're in but right now its just gone 11pm where I am and I have to be up at 7am for work. If I happen to screw up the hospital network because I'm tired after having been debating about DVD copying then I won't be too popular.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one and leave it at that as it seems no matter what I say you've already made up your mind to refuse what I'm saying, probably to save face.

Goodnight.
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Creaky, you completely removed my post, so I'll say it again. 95-97% of the time Decrypter works. No matter that there are SOME discs that aren't copiable without help, it works 95-97% of the time by itself.
If you need to use PCGedit plugin once in awhile, so what? It adds a few minutes at most, and most people already use "helper" apps to blank out the extras, or reduce the menus to stills, or whatever, so really, needing to use the extra free plugin on 3-5 discs out of 100 is a non-issue.
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what's this, get at Creaky hour ?. @Jigen, i haven't removed your post at all..



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@ZebUK - no-one's gettng at you, we're just saying that there are some films that aren't protected the same way around the world, and that not all brand-new films have the latest encryptions. that's all we're saying. oh and different ppl do have different successes with some films. that epic thread linked to earlier will explain a fair bit.



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@Creaky
One last note before I go after reading your last post.

All films I've copied for my sister to borrow are films I own. Any rentals I copy I also buy which is why I'm not bothered about long copying times. The whole reason I backup my films is because I find friends don't always tend to take great care of them when borrowing them. I've already had a few scratched.

Now I really am outta here.
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ah i see, you mean ex-rentals that you've bought. cool, i gotta uphold the rules you see. yes it is late, i gotta turn in too.

atrocious spelling edited in my previous reply.



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ZebUK
If you're encountering no errors, then you have no copyright protection on the disc you are backing up. That's why I asked for a copy of an AnyDVD info window that shows the copyright protection used on a particular disc. We found out before that a rental (from all places the UK) was being touted as a source and it lacked copyright protection. Whether a freak or some good pirating, who knows? I've been using and working on computers for a few years myself. I've been doing DVD backups since the hardware came available and am very familiar with both DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink and a host of other software.

As for the method being used, I assumed you were using the method you touted in your little help guide.
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NOTE: I don't like the annoying trailers or extra features. I think they're a waste of space. I want to watch a movie so I throw away the rest so I cannot guarantee this method works for the entire disc.
If that doesn't sound like movie only and editing, I'm a bit lost. Irregardless of how you did it, download the free AnyDVD trial and show us the info window on the disc you backed up. http://www.slysoft.com/ .


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i got narnia and chicken little and decoded them using dvd decrypter. when i go to shrink them using dvd shrink 3.2 i get an error message saying there was an error or malfunction with one of the files. i believe the exact title of the file was vts_01_1.vob. i would be greatful for some feedback on how to correct or work around this problem.

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The easiest solution is the one I mentioned earlier. Process the ripped files with FixVTS for the entire ripped DVD folder. The link was posted earlier for the FixVTS. If you want to do it the easiest way, just use the AnyDVD. I just posted the link for the free 3 week trial.

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ZebUK- I just don't understand why there is so much hatred directed at people that *gasp* make the outrageous claim that DVD Decrypter will still copy even spanking new movies all by it's lonesome. I haven't done Narnia yet, but my daughter wants it, so I'll have my chance.
Now, if indeed I need to use the plugin, so be it. Just as I wouldn't expect something like AnyDVD to stay current without it's constant updates, I don't expect it from Decrypter either. It may need the plugin with a tiny # of discs. So what? One way or the other, Decrypter will get the job done, and for free, and until those "super crackproof double secret" DVDs start coming out, it will continue to do so. Good job BTW.
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all non-believers:

I went thru all this yesterday, and maybe y'all ought to read how I got Narnia a tuff one as far as it goes LOL. Perhaps if you will step back and read you'll find the simple solution, said it once, aint gonna bother again. Got PERFECT copy in 29.32 mins. I repeat, perfect copy that my family and I have watched a couple times, with or w/o extra's, menu's etc, your choice there, in less than 1/2 hour. What more could you ask for??????????? People are making a big deal out of nothing, perhaps to confuse beginners or show off their infinite knowledge, then I see this.........."
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until those "super crackproof double secret" DVDs start coming out
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and lose it. taint no such thing, nor will there ever be, ask microsoft LMAO
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will someone please tell me what i need to do to get DVD Shrink to process my decoded version of narnia!
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@goodburn

easiest way is grab 21 day free trial of AnyDVD, as was mentioned somewhere B4 on the thread, oh I think I said it too??!!! and use it.
It runs in background, silently but effectively doing it's thing and shrink will get it NP. If you don't wanna do that, read posts above and beyond and you'll see there are other ways, albeit not as EZ, but free, then again, so is trial of AnyDVD. So it's really up to you how you wanna get it, but ways and means are given to you here by me, elsewhere by others.

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