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TorrentSpy Accuses MPAA of Hiring Hacker
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article published on 25 May, 2006
The company behind popular Bittorrent search engine TorrentSpy has countersued the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), alleging that it hired a hacker to infiltrate its' e-mail and trade secrets.
The suit alleges that the MPAA paid a man $15,000 to steal information from Valence Media, parent company of Torrentspy, of whom the MPAA has accused of helping copyright violators. ... [ read the full article ]
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25. May 2006 @ 12:05 |
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Torrentspy is trying to obscure the facts to hide the fact that they are facilitating thievery
No they aren't. I feel if people use the BT sites to subsequently download copyrighted materials, then it is not the liability of the search engine, but the peer.
That is like saying that knives facilitate fatal stabbings..
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25. May 2006 @ 12:24 |
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What an interesting twist of events, bribery, corporate spying and piracy...
It just comes to show how hypocritical the MPAA is and I hope Valence Media wins the suit.
@lethal B
They are both equally as liable than the other in the eyes of the law, as the proverb goes "who came first, the chicken or the egg".
I am starting to wonder more and more, how they catch the peer downloading movies and etc. Does anyone know specifically what procedure they employ to catch the perpetrator?
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25. May 2006 @ 12:36 |
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Indeed, they are both liable. However, that comment by Kori Bernards was extremely inaccurate in theory.
If it is proven that they were spying, then I see no reason why Torrentspy shouldn't win its' case. However, you get the feeling that whether this is true or not, the MPAA will come out on top.
*sighs*
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25. May 2006 @ 12:47 |
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...This is getting very entertaining. :-)
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ripfuel
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25. May 2006 @ 12:54 |
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Looks like the shoe is on the other foot now....The MPAA is going to have a hard time explaining away this one. I hope TorrentSpy will go after those A$$HOLES with everything they have. Thank God someone is finally standing up to those people! Good Luck TorrentSpy....I am behind you 100%.
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Run4two
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25. May 2006 @ 13:55 |
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Great article Lethal_B! It's nice to see that they finally got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. This stuff happens all the time and is not surprising at all. I doubt that light would have been shed here if the MPAA would have payed a decent amount to the guy. 15K is NOTHING. I would have expected at least 50K minimum! Once again their greedy nature got the best of them.
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25. May 2006 @ 14:21 |
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I hope the MPAA gets burned by this, Im so sick of big companies trying to tell us how to live.
Bastards
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UK_Gamer
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25. May 2006 @ 14:32 |
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My neighbour got in shit with universal 2 years ago over downloading their films.
I think this is what happens,
1. They trace your IP address,
2. Contact your IP provider,
3. Universal and IP provider start to harrass you.
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25. May 2006 @ 14:38 |
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...and the pot calls the kettle black!!! It's about time that these guys got caught doing something they wern't susposed to be doing. Maybe they will now concentrate on their business rather than ours!!! LOL!!!
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25. May 2006 @ 15:02 |
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Way to go Lethal B. MPAA's making this up as they go and it's scary that they are getting away with it, mostly.
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25. May 2006 @ 15:20 |
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GO TORRENTSPY!!
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augerpro
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25. May 2006 @ 15:46 |
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To hell with the lawsuit, bring the DOJ down on the MPAA's head! Afterall this is illegal and the public should see the MPAA for the criminals they are.
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LCOBRA
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25. May 2006 @ 16:23 |
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lol as robot chicken would say, "What a twist!"
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25. May 2006 @ 19:13 |
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it's not that difficult to do a 'trace' without hacking into the search engine, which by their claims is only providing documentation of files not the files themselves.
For non-anonymous p2p you have the IP of the person you are connecting with to facilitate the transfer. With BT when you download you also upload and hence a downloader IS also a distributor of whatever content, legal or not, that they are downloading.
As for the MPAA and a person gettign caught here is how it worked with me...
a movie/tv studio sent my isp a letter detailing that such and such IP address owned by them was uploading such and such files (I was using BT and the names of files are non consequential). My ISP sent me an email with a copy of the email they received from the studio informing me to cease and desist. Upon talking to my ISP tey informed me that this letter from the studio was only the first step and that as long as I didn't do it anymore (or at least didn't get caught lol) nothing would come of it. My ISP also assured me that no personal information was divulged due to this letter not be a court order to disclose my identity.
So basically it was just a warning to me. Of course I IMMEDIATELY stopped downloading the tv show I was catching up on and have never done so again. Which is really kind of sad because I then also cancelled my subscription to Showtime because if I couldn't get caught up with the ONLY series I was paying them to watch I figured that there was no sense using my dvr to time shift the current episodes until I was caught up.
So this enforcement tactic of threatening me via my ISP actually COST them money...as do most of their enforcement tactics. But oh well, a few short weeks later they canceled the series I was interested in anyways so i guess no great loss on my part! lol
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25. May 2006 @ 19:27 |
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"We are confident that our lawsuit against them will be successful because the law is on our side."
The law will always be on the bully's side. No matter how much they break the law, there will always be a law backing them up. I am soooo sick of hearing their BS that I'm starting to rethink buying DVDs anymore. If I have to, I will just go to a friend's house and watch TV, DVD or whatever where the law can't touch me. Let's just hope in the future it won't be against the law to go over to a friend's house and just chill and watch a movie. Or better yet to borrow that movie. The more I hear about the MPAA constricting our rights, the more I fear that one day, Blockbuster, NetFlicks, and Hollywood Video will go out of business. That will be a day when you know the MPAA has rewritten the Constitution and America's laws. :(
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25. May 2006 @ 20:51 |
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interesting turn of events, just goes to show you again how nobody is a saint
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david100k
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25. May 2006 @ 21:33 |
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sounds like "The Informant" was a double agent ;)
he got his cash and gave a blow to the MPAA
good news in my book
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25. May 2006 @ 22:07 |
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All we need now is a murder and a guy who woke up from a coma running into a church to stop his one true love (who has amnesia) from marrying his evil half brother.
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mfrink
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26. May 2006 @ 00:49 |
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You guys think "The Informant" will make it to the trial? maybe the MPAA will have him "Whacked" :)
anyway, go torrentspy!
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26. May 2006 @ 01:06 |
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A_Klingon
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26. May 2006 @ 02:49 |
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This is prime fodder for a *terrific* "Hollywood Blockbuster" - type movie! Espionage, double-agents, snooping, spying, covert under-the-table operations, payola - it's got it all!
Maybe they could hire Tom Hanks (or preferably Steve Martin who would make a *terrific* snoop) to play a James Bond 007 type role for "The Informant", and the movie could be called, "Dirty Laundry" or something.
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You guys think "The Informant" will make it to the trial? maybe the MPAA will have him "Whacked" :)
Nah, they could just put him into the Witness Protection Program like Steve Martin in "My Blue Heaven". :-)
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. May 2006 @ 05:20
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Jacquers
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26. May 2006 @ 05:07 |
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I'm not surprised by the MPAA's behaviour...
To UK_Gamer: With IPv6 it's going to be even easier to track down people. Theres more than enough ip adresses available so that every single pc will have it's own ip. No more NAT & hiding behind a firewall.
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flyingv
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26. May 2006 @ 06:17 |
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The level to which people will stoop is beyond me!!! If I can't hide my computer behind my firewall and 256 encryption, who will be safe??? LOL!!!
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eklipz
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26. May 2006 @ 08:13 |
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the MPAA has done somthing simmilar in what the RIAA is going through if only there was a curt order to sift the houses of the RIAA reps and find copyed cds movies,tapes of radio stations then thier going to be sitting with thier finger up thier A$$ then the court would probly drop the suit between xm radio and the riaa
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UK_Gamer
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26. May 2006 @ 09:39 |
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Why not organise a big march to the whitehouse and riot with the anti-christs police, the washington police and the murderous U.S troops!, we could also recruit blacks, hispanic's from the many ghetto's and tell them Bush plans to send them back to where they came from and shit.
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