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Nick1814
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2. August 2006 @ 19:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been reading a lot of posts lately and people seem to suggest burning movies at lower speeds. I've been burning at 16X for a week or two and havent really encountered a problem with the playback. I can understand the reasoning behind the slower speeds but what problems have people had that resulted from burning too fast?
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2. August 2006 @ 20:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pixelization, hesitations and freezes are usually seen from burning too fast.....


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2. August 2006 @ 20:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just to add to bilbo65's post - players may have a problem even playing the disc. They can be picky and burn speed is one factor.

One player may playback a 16x burned disc another may not.

Then depending on the quality of the media burned at 16x speed (along w/ the drive and firmware) may not be playable or have the problems bilbo65 mentioned sooner than later.



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3. August 2006 @ 01:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What happens if you burn too slow? like 1x? This makes better quality right?..

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some disks will have poor quality if you burn too slow! The rated speed of the disk (like 8x disks) actually burn better at near the rated speed..... I usually burn at half the rated speed (4x for 8x disks). here is a read:

http://www.best16xburn.com/

it's about 16x disks but they talk all about burn speeds and quality, etc.

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Hey thanks ^_^ but that is Vertabim bias u got the TY ones?

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right now I only use Taiyo Yuden DVD+R, 8x, inkjet hub printables, and silver printables. I just got a lightscribe burner and bought the Verbatim 16x LightScribe DVD+Rs. Like I said ... that article is a good read. Take the info and apply it to your needs. Whether they talk about Verbatim or not... it's a DVD disk. Use the info.

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So 16x (TY DVD+R Full injet writable) should burn at 8x and 8x DVD+R should burn at 4x?

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that's what most members do! and the quality scores prove it:





not bad!
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Thats a TY02 (8x) with a speed setting of 8x?? Hey is there infos on how t oread those graph the FAQ isnt helpful..do i need to burna disc to check its quality or can i just put a blank one in.

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Er iam being told that burning at 16x is better..

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For myself, burning my Verbatim's (MCC code) at 16X also gives me a 95% Quality score (using the Benq as a reder) for both my LG4167 and Benq1640. Note that not all burners can run the Qualty Test (Benq yes, LG no).

CDFreaks reviews are a nice source for finding good media burner matches as they always test major media (at rated speeds) and score it.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/search/B/
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@davidw89
What's the make and model of your burner? That can make a diff to burning at higher speeds and the quality of the burn you get.
Keep the firmware up to date also.

I burn 8x Taiyo at 8x - sometimes overburn at 12x. Verb 16x - any where from 8x - 12x. For my set up and many different players - no problems.

Yes you do need to burn to the disc b/4 running a scan.
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Iam on the GSA-H10A.. (latest firmware)
Iam getting a Benq 1655 soon..

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>>Iam on the GSA-H10A.. (latest firmware)
>>Iam getting a Benq 1655 soon..

Hmm... kinda a step down.

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edited by ddp

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@penner13
WTF??
This means what?

Edit the sig - the page is now waaaay off.
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@binkie........... what happened to your sig? maybe I should cut my sig altogether! you're starting a fad!
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Nah somtimes it 'annoys' me (the blinking bit) Too lazy or have patience to edit it in Flash.

More annoying is penner13 throwing this thread screen waaay off

@davidw89
How are your burns and or scan coming along?
davidw89
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4. August 2006 @ 18:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Burns are fine i burn at 8x for 16x medias..but i cant do a Nero cd/dvd test

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@davidw89
I think with the GSA you can do a scan disc. Will tell you if any bad spots but doesn't give you the scores like the disc quality does.
My biggest test though is a year or more later still being able to rerip the copy.



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>>..but i cant do a Nero cd/dvd test
Fire up Nero CD/DVD speeed and do a 'Transfer Rate" test. All burners/readers will do this test. A nice clean line in this test tells you if you've chosen the right media. If this test looks good rest assured you've burned a nice copy. You can do it in the original burner or another burner/reader. This test is every bit as meaningful as the quality scan.

Here's an older pic of a test showing a good media burner match.



Here's an example of a not so good media burner match. This is actually the same media before a firmware update.



Here's what crap media looks like, the typical problems that occur at the end.

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davidw89
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4. August 2006 @ 22:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well when i put the dvd into my drive and select my drive on that Nero program i cannot press the button 'start'..so..

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