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very slow encoding with shrink
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dvdfreak1
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26. December 2006 @ 16:51 |
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i just got a 160 gig western digital external hard drive to ad to my computer primarily to store back ups of my dvds on it.when i rip the movies with shrink the encoding process is extremely slow.but when i encode them to my c drive it encodes them at a normal pace.what am i doin wrong???
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seadale
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26. December 2006 @ 16:54 |
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more than likley its your pio/dma settings. go to device manager & pull up your hardware. go to ide ate/atapi controllers & make sure both are on dma not pio.
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dvdfreak1
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28. December 2006 @ 09:15 |
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it was already set to dma.every dvd goes to about %5 and it flies perfectly at a normal speed,then all of a sudden it stops for a good minuite,continues,but it starts to drag speed .anybdy have aclue why this is.like i said when i rip a dvd to my c: drive it goes rips fine the whole time.
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laddyboy
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28. December 2006 @ 09:25 |
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I'm a little confused.
Is it the ripping to the external HDD that is slow as compared to the ripping to the c: drive?
Is it the encoding by DVD Shrink when the files are stored on the external HDD as compared to the c: drive that's slow?
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seadale
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28. December 2006 @ 10:36 |
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what does your current transfer rate show under the 2 controllers?
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28. December 2006 @ 14:04 |
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If it's a USB external they are considerably slower than either your internal drive or a Firewire external.
Run this app for some numbers.
http://www.hdtune.com/
The 'stopping for a good minute' sounds a bit ominous though. If USB make sure your drivers are correct.
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laddyboy
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28. December 2006 @ 14:10 |
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I use USB2 external drives all the time. I don't find any noticeable difference between using them and an internal drive with respect to Shrink processing time.
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28. December 2006 @ 14:19 |
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i have a nec1100a (flashed to 1300)external on a usb1 port . the burn times are longer compared to mostly what i see posted.
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seadale
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28. December 2006 @ 14:25 |
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all i know is i had this problem a week or two ago. i looked @ my two controllers & both said dma, which is what they should be. BUT when i looked @ the current transfer rate it said pio, which had to be changed in order to restore my shrink to its original speed. In order to that you must right click that tranfer rate & select uninstall. Reboot your pc & windows will automaticly change it back to dma. recheck your contollers & make sure they both say dma, along with the current transfer rate. Try this & see if it cures your problem.
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laddyboy
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28. December 2006 @ 15:18 |
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@ born2ride
The bandwidth on a USB1 port is too small to reasonably support any type of drive. That's why USB2 and firewire are used for drives. Your burn times will be very long indeed even if the burns are successful.
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28. December 2006 @ 15:40 |
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laddyboy
i have quite a few backup done this way all seem to play fine. so far. i have been doing quaity scan lately and they seem bad (posted in Nero forum) my be that is a factor for me?
AVG burn full disc 1-1.5hr give or take
AVG burn main movie about 43-50mins.
all depend on length
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28. December 2006 @ 16:08 |
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@dvdfreak1,
It sounds like your usb port is a "usb 1.1" which runs DRAMATICALLY slower than a 'usb 2.0' or 'firewire' port.
When you plug in the external hard drive, does Windows XP say "This hi-speed device is connected to a low-speed port, switching it to a hi-speed port will allow the device to communicate much faster"? If you do, then you can click the dialog balloon and XP will tell you if you have any hi-speed ports on your computer. If one or more of your other ports are hi-speed, then plug the hard drive into one of them. If you don't have any hi-speed ports, then you can buy some and install them yourself.
You need something like this:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...4&Sku=C250-3712
They come in different sizes with different numbers of ports.
That one there comes with 4 ports out the back, and one port you can connect to one of your front usb's, internally.
You can use whatever retailer you want, I'm just using Tiger Direct for example. They're at Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples, OfficeMax, etc.
Ask somebody if you're unsure about installation, or compatibility.
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28. December 2006 @ 16:38 |
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my pc does not find any high speed ports thats y i am still a 1
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28. December 2006 @ 16:38 |
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my pc does not find any high speed ports thats y i am still a 1
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dvdfreak1
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28. December 2006 @ 16:51 |
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Originally posted by ashroy01:
@dvdfreak1,
It sounds like your usb port is a "usb 1.1" which runs DRAMATICALLY slower than a 'usb 2.0' or 'firewire' port.
When you plug in the external hard drive, does Windows XP say "This hi-speed device is connected to a low-speed port, switching it to a hi-speed port will allow the device to communicate much faster"? If you do, then you can click the dialog balloon and XP will tell you if you have any hi-speed ports on your computer. If one or more of your other ports are hi-speed, then plug the hard drive into one of them. If you don't have any hi-speed ports, then you can buy some and install them yourself.
You need something like this:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...4&Sku=C250-3712
They come in different sizes with different numbers of ports.
That one there comes with 4 ports out the back, and one port you can connect to one of your front usb's, internally.
You can use whatever retailer you want, I'm just using Tiger Direct for example. They're at Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples, OfficeMax, etc.
Ask somebody if you're unsure about installation, or compatibility.
thats exactly what it says ashroy.so looks like i need to get a high speed usb port and install it myself.thanx for all your help,and i appreciate all yor replys.
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PacMan777
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28. December 2006 @ 21:08 |
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In the future, if you have the space, it would pay to go with internal drives. They're noticably faster than the external drives and don't have the interface problems some external drives do.
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laddyboy
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29. December 2006 @ 04:10 |
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@ born2ride
That could definitely be a factor as your burner will have to constantly wait on data to be tranferred before it can be written. Of course if you're not using quality media that could be a factor as well.
Are you using a laptop? Is that why you're using an external burner? If you have a PCMCIA slot, just buy a USB2 card and use that for your connection. I actually had faster transfer speeds on an older USB1 laptop using that interface than I did on a newer lappy with USB2 ports.
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29. December 2006 @ 07:35 |
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laddyboy
i have a tower. i just started burn in nov i think it was.this is what i had before for cd and stuff.its an older pc i think about 3-5 yrs .i planing and upgrade soon i hope. i dont want to spen anymore on this one. going to donate to my little one for games. if it crashes or breaks some how i get a new one sooner.
thats some good info you gave me i think in my spare time i will test it. i will have to load Nero to my lab top and recheck the dvd scan.
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29. December 2006 @ 08:24 |
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you may want to open task manager [ctrl,alt,del]& see if an appplication is draining your memory & end the process
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29. December 2006 @ 10:24 |
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Originally posted by laddyboy:
I use USB2 external drives all the time. I don't find any noticeable difference between using them and an internal drive with respect to Shrink processing time.
- same here, any form of ripping is the same for me ie Shrink, DVDFab Decrypter, DVD Decrypter, copy/paste via windows explorer; i also use one USB2.0 burner very heavily for burning also (and i do a lot of 'multiple recorder' burns in Nero), though the USB2.0's usable max speed is therefore limited to 8x which is fine by me..
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30. December 2006 @ 06:50 |
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Hi - may I ask why:Quote:
the USB2.0's usable max speed is therefore limited to 8x
as mine burns/rips higher...
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edit:typo
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laddyboy
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30. December 2006 @ 07:08 |
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I think Creaky may be talking about when burning more than one disk at a time with Nero. 16X divided over 2 drives would be an 8X max burn.
I've never obtained a faster burn than 8X on either USB2 or Firewire with any of my external burners. I have an Athlon 64 3400+ laptop running XP. Software will attempt 16X burns but reverts to 8X or 6X burns. I usually burn at 4X anyway so it's not an issue for me other than experimentation.
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30. December 2006 @ 07:30 |
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I think your right about creaky. Thank you.
I have a new Intel dual core PC with LG external burner and the burn speed using Imgburn went over 11.
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30. December 2006 @ 07:36 |
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@Altercuno - sorry, bit behind with my replies, have been up to my spectales with multiposts etc today. Anyway, i forget the specifics re limitations of USB 2.0 burning, laddyboy's reply sounds about right.
edit- similar problems here - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/443127/2678454
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30. December 2006 @ 10:28 |
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Hi creaky - I checked out the link you posted and it's odd the FireWire is giving probs - I only use FireWire to transfer my camcorder video to hard drive and I use a usb burner and hard drive (cos I couldn't find FireWire versions) and they are fine.
No need for sorry - you work hard on these forums, very impressive ( but banning a guy on Christmas Day for spamming was really impressive)...
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