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TupacFan
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21. May 2007 @ 02:29 |
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I got my new console on the 18th and downloaded the beta before i hacked it. now its the 21st and i have been playing backups and the beta non stop until now (because i just heard of this mass banning) with my 78fk and what ever the newest firmware is. I have not been banned but im still very scared and trying not to wet myself.
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21. May 2007 @ 02:46 |
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Originally posted by czidarich:
I don't suppose anyone knows if this will also void your warranty? I'm not concerned at all about losing xbox live.....i'm going to use xlink from now on.....but if there is the chance that it voids your warranty.......it defeats the purpose of me paying the extra $30 for my 2 year extended warranty. Also is there a way to be able to turn live off so you don't connect to it when you turn your xbox on, but also be able to connect to the internet to use xlink?
Does that make sense?
I don't have an internet connection at home at the moment cos i am moving but plan to reconnect it when we move.....so officially i havent been banned yet.....but i'm sure it will happen once i plug it back in.
you need to do some reading, to use xlink or xbconnect you do not connect your xbox directly to the internet. you must use the xbox in conjunction with a pc to use there service.
example: use a wireless laptop on internet running your choice of xlink or xboxconnect and connect your xbox to your laptop with ethernet cable.
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21. May 2007 @ 03:32 |
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Inside sources at Teammodders, and this may or may not be 100% accurate but sure sonds very logical, have said the following about the recent string of bannings.
They say that the new spring update to the dashboard has given it the ability to scan the EEPROM file of the 360 and do CRC checks so that Microsoft can log any console ID that they find to have made changes (AKA flashing the DVD drive or a modchip). And that the instant the update had been run the check was done and your console was flagged if data had been altered. Then of course you were added to the database for the waves of bannings that will be happening. I know some people are so far very happy that they are not banned when so many others have been. But as i speculated it may be possible that they were building a database and banning in waves since there was no way that they could ban that many consles in just one day.
So be on the lookout for more soon.
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TupacFan
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21. May 2007 @ 03:52 |
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Originally posted by steimy:
Inside sources at Teammodders, and this may or may not be 100% accurate but sure sonds very logical, have said the following about the recent string of bannings.
They say that the new spring update to the dashboard has given it the ability to scan the EEPROM file of the 360 and do CRC checks so that Microsoft can log any console ID that they find to have made changes (AKA flashing the DVD drive or a modchip). And that the instant the update had been run the check was done and your console was flagged if data had been altered. Then of course you were added to the database for the waves of bannings that will be happening. I know some people are so far very happy that they are not banned when so many others have been. But as i speculated it may be possible that they were building a database and banning in waves since there was no way that they could ban that many consles in just one day.
So be on the lookout for more soon.
i know that isnt 100% certified concrete but do you know if they run this check everytime you logon or if it was a one time thing. The reason i ask is because i hacked my firmware after i downloaded the beta and all the updates so maybe they missed me! (wishful thinking)
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21. May 2007 @ 06:23 |
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I doubt they missed you because in order to use Xbox Live you HAVE to do the updates. If you do not do updates for your games or Xbox it will just sign you out of Live.
And i think it would check each time the console is started as he mentioned the console taking about 3 seconds extra to boot due to the check. We have to face it. If your modded most likely your banning is coming in the very near future. So have fun while it last. I personally have been fortunate so far and will just enjoy XBL while it last. After that then i will not bother buying a new console just to access Live because it is no where near worth it. It is fun for sure but i played games offline for years and will just go back to that until the free systems or firmware people can find a way around the ping timer preventing use of XBconnect and Xlink Kai. And if they do not then i will just not play online anymore. No big deal really.
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21. May 2007 @ 06:45 |
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Originally posted by reprazent:
It totally amazes me when people get banned and say: 'F*CK YOU MS!!! I'm buying PS3 instead! not gonna "waste" more money on Bill - let's boycot them!' somebody explain me the logic behind that.
IMO it's just pathetic, it's not like they bricked your machine, you can still play your backup games fine (and you should be grateful they don't actually ban your account alltogether). Something you can't do on a PS3. I also wonder how many games those people spent/wasted on Xbox360. A console and Live subscription? A few DL-disks?
PS3 means $599 and buying original games. Yeah, PS3 gaming is SO much cheaper ;(
so u mean after they treat you like shit you then go buy and elite and pay them more money? right?
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21. May 2007 @ 06:48 |
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Originally posted by steimy:
I doubt they missed you because in order to use Xbox Live you HAVE to do the updates. If you do not do updates for your games or Xbox it will just sign you out of Live.
And i think it would check each time the console is started as he mentioned the console taking about 3 seconds extra to boot due to the check. We have to face it. If your modded most likely your banning is coming in the very near future. So have fun while it last. I personally have been fortunate so far and will just enjoy XBL while it last. After that then i will not bother buying a new console just to access Live because it is no where near worth it. It is fun for sure but i played games offline for years and will just go back to that until the free systems or firmware people can find a way around the ping timer preventing use of XBconnect and Xlink Kai. And if they do not then i will just not play online anymore. No big deal really.
omg wait do u mean the update has a ping timer that prevents use of XBconnect and Xlink? SHIT they are so cheap!!
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21. May 2007 @ 07:04 |
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Originally posted by reprazent:
It totally amazes me when people get banned and say: 'F*CK YOU MS!!! I'm buying PS3 instead! not gonna "waste" more money on Bill - let's boycot them!' somebody explain me the logic behind that.
IMO it's just pathetic, it's not like they bricked your machine, you can still play your backup games fine (and you should be grateful they don't actually ban your account alltogether). Something you can't do on a PS3. I also wonder how many games those people spent/wasted on Xbox360. A console and Live subscription? A few DL-disks?
PS3 means $599 and buying original games. Yeah, PS3 gaming is SO much cheaper ;(
so u mean after they treat you like shit you then go buy and elite and pay them more money? right?
no. he means quit bitching about it. its your fault.
and dont post twice right behind each other, quote your quotes in one post and post one time. quit adding to your post count.
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21. May 2007 @ 08:03 |
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so far so good for me :D
been on live for the past week and everything atm is good. no banning yet and i hope it stays that way !!
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21. May 2007 @ 08:06 |
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dont mean to burst your bubble paul but your going to get caught, everyone will. i havent been banned yet but i know its just a matter of time.
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21. May 2007 @ 08:29 |
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I doubt that later they gonna do like game update or something like that,then you cant play backups or downloaded games.Not sure but i m in doubt.
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reprazent
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21. May 2007 @ 08:31 |
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so u mean after they treat you like shit you then go buy and elite and pay them more money? right?
When and where has MS treated us like shit?
you mean they banned people? yes and they had every right to do it.
Nobody forced you to flash your machine. In any case YOU yourself are to blame, not MS or anyone else but yourself. So stop playing victim.
And nobody is forcing anybody to buy an elite,
1) buy a cheap core if you want XBL that bad (and many have already) costs $299 max
2) don't care about XBL? you can play games offline fine. - costs nothing
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21. May 2007 @ 08:49 |
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I would have to agree although i would have stated it in a more polite manner. If you mod consoles, and like XBL you should have know the risks. Anyone who has had or did any research at all on modded Xbox 1 consoles would have known that this is a common MS trend. And i agree that they do have every right to do it. No matter how much you are aginst it. So if your modded your time will come. When and where no one knows. But it WILL happen.
Personally it is a question of this.
1. pay MS $50 a year for XBL- NO
2. Play my games offline and save 10 times that much money- YES
Everyone has their opinions on it. Mine is MS can suck it!
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QuenteK25
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21. May 2007 @ 08:51 |
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Just to clarify some differing opinions and "facts" that I've heard...
This ban ONLY bans your console, your Xbox Live account can still be used on another box right?
I'm planning to buy a used core console for cheap as my "LIVE" box just for the few games I like to play online and then keep my modded box for all other games.
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21. May 2007 @ 08:53 |
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Originally posted by mikeismad:
dont mean to burst your bubble paul but your going to get caught, everyone will. i havent been banned yet but i know its just a matter of time.
yeh unfortunately i know this is gona happen eventually :(
lets just hope my console is overlooked :D
Currently on my 7th PS3 and 4th Xbox, gotta love technology..
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ditchcat
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21. May 2007 @ 08:59 |
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Ok, the idea is to bann you off xbox live ONLY right??
because i have been banned, and i can not play my brothers console over lan? are they allowed to do this???
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21. May 2007 @ 09:13 |
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not sure, they may have disabled your Ethernet port on your console, i havent heard much about it to be honest.
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ditchcat
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21. May 2007 @ 09:21 |
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i wudnt of thought theyd even be allowed to do this, i mean fair enough the bann of xbl but lan aswell!!
the lan works to the extent that it detects when the other 360 is started but wen searching for games it wont find the games hosted, and worked like a treat before the ban
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QuenteK25
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21. May 2007 @ 09:24 |
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Originally posted by QuenteK25:
Just to clarify some differing opinions and "facts" that I've heard...
This ban ONLY bans your console, your Xbox Live account can still be used on another box right?
I'm planning to buy a used core console for cheap as my "LIVE" box just for the few games I like to play online and then keep my modded box for all other games.
Anyone care to confirm this...
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21. May 2007 @ 10:05 |
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still not banned yet...could be becuase i havent been able to get onto live since college is been out though, lol. just a thought. hopefully this new FW will be able to stop the banning though. but im not looking foward to going back to school to get banned... :(
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21. May 2007 @ 10:07 |
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from what i have heard, just like with the Xbox 1 console banning. They ban your console ID. Meaning that Xbox Live can no longer be used on that console. If you were to buy another console that is not modded then you should still be able to access and use the current account. I mean that would be a big win for MS as you had to go spend another $300-$500 on a new set up, and of course buy a copy of the back up that you played online.
Disabling the ethernet port is something i have not heard anything about. But anything is really possible i guess. Know one knows what they are capable of banning. They may be banning people from any kind of multi-player functions other than those that can be performed on the one console you have. I know they really put the boot to free online through system link programs with the ping timer on games. Is the lan where you are hooking two consoles up with a strait through cable? Or are you both accessing it through some kind of wireless home network?
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21. May 2007 @ 10:14 |
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Well this is my thinking might be this not right or might be correct theory.So please dont flame on me guys.
They are checking your xbox360 through internet,and they are checking NAT
if your NAT is strict then they are not gonna kick u,whenever they run the system check your isp not letting them to do system check,because 1 day ago i wasnt able to connect to xbox live then i ran the test then i saw my NAT was strict,but now its open again.Might be they are not running system check at the moment.
I've got hitachi 46dh was flashed with 2.3 c4eva before spring update.Then i restored original state.After that i updated dashboard then i didnt went to live then i flashed my drive with c4eva 2.4 but now its again original state and i m playing GoW live everyday till now.I am still not banned yet.
Metalgear from team-xecuter website wrote this.
yea, they are blowing smoke up your but
I spoke to a supervisor who was actually pretty cool he said it was embedded in the spring update, they somehow see the disk but not FW
the guy also let slip ( i dunno fact or fiction) but he did say something about my router's NAT being OPEN, if it was strict they MAY not have caught me so fast
again typical microsh1t Bull. but thats what he said
http://www.team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45661&page=2
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ditchcat
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21. May 2007 @ 10:26 |
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The LAN is connected up through my router, i also tried using a direct crossover cable and still no luck....?
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drhoten
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21. May 2007 @ 10:35 |
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Saturday morning I put in my copy of Crackdown went online and downloaded the Halo 3 beta with no problems at all. Remember now I was trying everything I could to get banned so I would have an excuse to buy an Elite so I did everything everyone else tried. Anyways I played Halo for about 30 minutes and got bored with it and logged off to play some other games with no problems at all in fact I played all night that night then I get up the next morning and play my games again periodically through out the day then at around 4:00 I decided to give Halo 3 another try and again I logged off after 30 minutes to play my other games and that is when I got banned.
Now my brother has the exact same 360 as I did meaning the Samsung drive and the 5.3 firmware and he is still paying as we speak the only difference is he hasn?t touched the Halo 3 beta. Not sure if Halo 3 has anything to do with it or not. The way I look at it is lets say it was the Halo 3 that got me banned then I can assure you what ever they did will also be added to other games to catch the other perpetrators. I just thought I would share my experience.
I now have an Elite and I am completely happy. For those that are upset that Microsoft finally caught on to what we were doing shame on you because you knew what the consequences were going to be if they happen to caught on to what people were doing but yet you still decided to do it anyways so you have nobody to blame but yourself. It was fun while it last but now its time to move on.
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21. May 2007 @ 11:05 |
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just wonderin.does any know which of the links e.g. xbconnect is best for playing Gears of War?
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