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23. May 2007 @ 06:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just play as long as you can, that is my advice to any modded console owner. Your rime will come so enjoy what time you have by getting on as much as you can and playing your little heart out.


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23. May 2007 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by steimy:
very well said Memnock.

1. Have a Samsung Drive - MS28 for me
2. Don't play backups before their street release- didn't do that
3. Make sure you are using stealth firmware- Xtreme 5.2
4. Only play PROPERLY stealth patched backups- Not sure as i quite checking them once i found out that the firmware was stealth patching them so that i did not have to manually do it.
5. Have everything reading at the same speed preferably the fastest speed, but if everythings read slow that MAY not count as a strike. - not sure on this one but the person who flashed mine before i got it is a top modder in the scene and really knows what he is doing. Guess i could always check the disc he sent me with the original and modded firmware and find out.
6. Flash the drive before it ever goes on Live- did this. Flashing was done strait out of the box before anything was played.7. DO NOT use an unbanned 360 as the power source when flashing. ie. never power up the 360 without the DVD Drive attached to the SATA cable. Get a kit or use a banned 360. -not sure how he did it, but he flashes a ton of them so i am sure he has a proper way of doing it.
8. Do not re-flash once it's flashed. - no plans to, if it ain't broke..don't fix it

as of now still unbanned, but i know the bannings will come in waves and i really think that eventually everyone will have their time.
Thanks steimy,

I'm glad to see you're doing things the right way and still not banned. I've put a lot of my time and mental resources into this. My wife's been neglected, but she's been very understanding with this whole thing.

I should add playing backups before their release dates will send up HUGE red flags. It's most likely the 1st thing that will get you noticed. I know this because I've heard from 2 different people who were real ball breakers with the MS phone reps and got them to spill the beans on that one. It's so easy to see who've been playing games before their release dates. Once you are noticed, you are going to be watched and if your stuff ain't in order you will be banned.

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23. May 2007 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm what should I do?

I heard about the bannings before I even turned it on so I'm pretty sure I'm not banned.

Should I flash back to orig? or what. I've been running on .42 b since I flashed it.
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23. May 2007 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just because you haven't turned it on it doesn't mean you cannot be banned.
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23. May 2007 @ 08:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Right,,, but I don't want to get banned.... So I'm gonna go with the possibility that I'm not. What should I do?
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23. May 2007 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
W 0000-0021
X 0000-F001
Y 20AB-48E0
Z 0000-0000 using hitachi drive don't no what firewall still not banned using next door wifi signal .
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23. May 2007 @ 09:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Memnock, i am glad to see someone who is going about this the right way. Tell your wife were all sorry and we appreciate her patients, LOL. There is just so much mis-information out there about this. I understand that it is pretty much all speculation at this point but some people are at least in the right ballpark, while others have no clue at all.

@ emachine
Problem with your theory is this. Most people are speculating that the changes you make are being stored in flash memory somewhere on the 360. So once you flashed it, whether you have connect to XBL or not, the fact that you modded it is still stored there. Your only hope is that it was not stored before the spring update, and can somehow not be recovered once you do this update. But i do not think so as i know many banned people who modded their system long before the spring update. My thoughts are that there is no real way around it, once you do something and the system stores it then when the update does it's checks they are going to find something.
Whether that gets you an immediate ban or not is not known, because some have been banned and other, for the moment, have not.
As i said 100 times before. You modded it and now have to live with that decision the same as the rest of us.

@ hoddy, "using next door wifi signal ."
so do your neibors know about that?



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23. May 2007 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah I have good wife. I'm just putting my mind to work to help nailing this stuff down. When I saw a friend of my wasn't banned I really went over his flashing and backups and of course I've being read TONS of stuff online over the past few days.

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23. May 2007 @ 11:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alright, well my console still isnt banned and im wondering how its all working out so im going to call ms and see if i can get some info out of them. as soon as i find something out ill post back on what they say.

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23. May 2007 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry if this hasn't already been posted, i'm just trying to figure out if anyone has been banned with the Hitachi 78fk drive in the elite..I had my 78fk modded but i flashed back to the original.bin because i was in a state of fear with M-soft dropping the ban hammer on everyone.

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23. May 2007 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, just called xbox customer support. the guy told me that we were banned because our consoles were tracked and were flagged. your serial is flagged and put into a list. the lists are broken up into sections. every day they do a bit more of the list. they do 2 to 3 sections a day and that everyone who has been online has been flagged. he wouldnt tell me how they detect it but he explained how they are banning them. its the serial and mac address that are being banned. he said that they record your serial number and match it with your consoles mac address and they add it to the list. once your on the list your banned. ill try to call back later and get more info on how they are figuring out we are modded.

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23. May 2007 @ 12:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i highly doubt its the power supply count thing! it seems really unrealistic. first i though maybe now i highly doubt that! they are probably fully scanning dvd drive firmwares with a program in the spring update. no matter what firmware there is in there unless its original they can read and ban it. if it seems modified they will ban it is as simple as that! its probably not hard for them since they made the console and knew the possibility of hacked firmware!
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23. May 2007 @ 12:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.xtreme-source.com/xbox-360/4730-live-banned-360-a.html
there is another good thread to read through. A member i know named Sadaius has some very good, solid theories on the many things that MS could be doing to flag your console. Like doing a test on your drive as a modded drive will have faster response times then an unmodded one. Or looking at the stealth sectors which would be in a different place on a back up in order for them to boot correctly.



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23. May 2007 @ 12:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i called back, they are running a test on my console right now, she put me on hold and said give me 10 minutes to check on it. i told her my console was banned (its not) and she is looking in to whats going on. hopefully i will have something to inform you guys on in a little bit.



EDIT- Ok After speaking to her about this issue, she came back and said that my console was banned for violating the terms of use and that she could not begin to speculate on what that meant. she said that if i could recover my gamertag to a different console it would work again and i said that there is no way i will ever buy another console if i have been banned for no reason. She says that my console wont work anymore and that i have to get a new one. i hang up turn on my xbox, it wont work. it shows the loading xbox 360 globe thing and then freezes up. it just sits there. not sure if they have a way to completely stop the console from working now or what. but im pissed. im going to call back later and ask why my console wont work. i recorded the full conversation on my phone and will try to upload it to my computer so you guys can all hear it and see if you can get something out of it that i didnt catch.

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23. May 2007 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anyone else' have this problem where there console won't work after being banned?
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23. May 2007 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i rang too ,the day of my banning.the woman also saind she could not tell me the exact reason i have been banned other than violating the terms of use.luckily for me my 360 was unhooked from the ethernet cable at that time because i thought that something could happen like what happened to you.but also i have noticed when the ethernet cable was connected when i was banned i was on the dashboard with a backup inserted and the drive still seemed to be reading the disk but a lot slower and quieter,almost like a check to see if it was a backup.then i also noticed that my ethernet light on my router was flashing as if it was being used.


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23. May 2007 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
called back about the not powering on issue, the guy put me on hold, i turned it on again and luckily it turned on fine. strange though. im still NOT BANNED! i am trying to get banned and i cant get them to do it. i dont know what to do!

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23. May 2007 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the last time i was online i played GRAW 2 if that helps you to get banned LOL.whatever it is you are real lucky not to have been banned yet!i wish i wasnt banned :(


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23. May 2007 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
still not banned... HITACHI v78 modded w/ FW Toolbox 3.1b....

Really don't get it... for the last 3 days my NAT was OPEN....

Now it is showing STRICT w/ codes

W: 0000 - 000B
X: 0000 - F001
Y: 20A8 - 48E0
Z: 0000 - 0000

Not sure what the codes were before when it was open... Almost like they were scanning my system the last couple days... Now I am thinking the BANHAMMER is coming down in the next couple days... Hopefully not but we shall see...
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23. May 2007 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mikeismad:
called back about the not powering on issue, the guy put me on hold, i turned it on again and luckily it turned on fine. strange though. im still NOT BANNED! i am trying to get banned and i cant get them to do it. i dont know what to do!
Play the hell out of what ever the next release is to pop up before the street date and make sure it's not stealth. That should get the job done. You might as well go ahead to change your firmware and make you you use the unbanned 360 as the power source.
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23. May 2007 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why you trying to get banned?
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23. May 2007 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heh, just wondering on banned consoles will you still be able to update games/dashboards?

Say Halo 3 has a severe problem and needs to download an update to work thatl mean by law theyl have to allow you to download the update otherwise there not selling you what you bought because it doesnt work!

Also if now internet is a big no no on a banned console hows M$ gonna remotely do anything to your 360? Unless theres a time-bomb embedded/installed in the spring update theres no more they can do!

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23. May 2007 @ 13:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im trying to get banned to get info out on what the causes of being banned are. i dont care about the console. i rarely play anyway i can deal without xbox live. memnock you think flashing up to x53 would send off a red flag to them?


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Heh, just wondering on banned consoles will you still be able to update games/dashboards?

Say Halo 3 has a severe problem and needs to download an update to work thatl mean by law theyl have to allow you to download the update otherwise there not selling you what you bought because it doesnt work!

Also if now internet is a big no no on a banned console hows M$ gonna remotely do anything to your 360? Unless theres a time-bomb embedded/installed in the spring update theres no more they can do!
if they banned you then they can unban you to update your console if its that important. and need we all not forget that people hacked bungie and unleashed a load of banned modders back into matchmaking once. so who is to say that we might not be released abck into live one day.

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23. May 2007 @ 14:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe, plus there the SATA cable thing. I wasn't too careful with my 1st 360, because I kind of wanted it get banned whenever they started banning so I could be able to a part of the troubleshooting process. I've since flashed 2nd 360 and I'm trying to keep it unbanned, but it if does get banned that's just more info.
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23. May 2007 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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im trying to get banned to get info out on what the causes of being banned are. i dont care about the console. i rarely play anyway i can deal without xbox live. memnock you think flashing up to x53 would send off a red flag to them?
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Hey Mike I think you have the same setup as me - so i think you should keep it the same and then find out how long it takes for us to get banned - i mean the lady said the "scanned" your box and said you are banned yet you are not.

Did you call her back and say "hey you told me my console is banned but its not - what gives"?

Although I would hate for you to uncover something to MS that they didn't know regarding the particular flash you have and why its not banned?
 
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