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Sony's ARccOS group takes down RipIt4Me and FixVTS
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 12 June, 2007
While details of this are sketchy at best and there are multiple court orders to not release details to the public, it appears that the developers for the ARccOS encryption destroying software RipIt4ME and FixVTS have been heavily pursued by an Australian court.
In a copyright lawsuit issued Digital Digest, two separate court orders have been issued to seek out personal data as well anything ... [ read the full article ]
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20. July 2007 @ 03:09 |
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There must be something they do better than the rest. Blueray?
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20. July 2007 @ 19:12 |
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Sony never does anything better. They just do it first, then someone else perfects it. They're kind of like Microsoft that way: they don't take time to get the problems all fixed, they just go for the immediate sales results.
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21. July 2007 @ 14:26 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
There must be something they do better than the rest. Blueray?
I think Sony is only one of several companies which funded and developed the blue ray.
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6. August 2007 @ 10:37 |
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Well, SONY are *bleep* and I want them to know, personally, that I USE Ripit4me every day at least 15 times a day to legally back up all of my store bought DVDs.
*bleep* *bleep*
Out of 100 computers in amny general place in the world, 95 of them WILL have Ripit4me installed.
*bleep* Sony and it's time for the next person who will bypass their ENCRYPTION to step up.
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24. January 2009 @ 14:47 |
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Well, it's been a year and a half since I posted my sentiments, and my sentiments still remain untouched, although some jackass edited the crap out of my post.
The last line basically said, "Screw Sony and it is time for the next person to stand up and bypass their *encryption* - The word Encyrption was edi-deleted! I guess encyption is a 4 letter word now.
It cannot be legal for me to backup my expensive DVD collection and also be illegal for me to do it at the same time, and if Sony or other assjacks try to make me stop I will fight them to the fullest extent that I can. And I still perform backups every time I return from the DVD store, and it is the first thing I do. Why do I do this? Because DVD is probably the most Volatile of all storage medium! I have Vinyl Phonogragh Disks from the 1930's but none of the CDs I bought when that medium was introduced survive today, and I was lucky enough to back up most of my collection to WAV files when that technology became available to me. I do not consider that stealing, I consider it protecting songs I spent several thousand dollars for. Nobody can tell me what I did was illegal or wrong or piracy or any such thing. In 2002 or so when my then-small DVD collection started to become corrupt, I began making copies of each disk, and now I have a copy of every film I bought as DVD... And I have master ISO images stashed away somewhere on old Hard Drives, which I check to make sure that they are still viable.
Why shouldn't I have done this? I spent the cash, I could have eaten something but instead I bought some movie for 26 bucks- Which is a lot of scratch.
So now I can watch these films where the original DVD has stopped fucntioning- Cos I PAID for it. Sony has to WAKE UP! We are not claming OWNERSHIP of the content of a DVD, just the DVD. And therefore we WILL continue to make copies of that content. We ALREADY PAID for that content, and will will nto CONTINUE to pay for it. It is kind of like a Microsoft Windows XP Product Key that way... We originally paid 400 Bucks for it, so we will keep using it, and if we have to use AntiWPA3.3 to KEEP it a valid key... Then we WILL use AntiWPA3.3.
It is funny and actually hilarious that they try to tell us that "DVDs are electronic devices" - What CRAP! Utter Poop! DVDs are the medium which contains DATA which is played back on MY DVD PLAYER or My COMPUTER- It is not a device, it is a plate of tripe! It is a side of Beef. Electronic devices by definition MUST include electronic circuitry. But regardless of what it is, the basic law allows me to make BACKUPS. So that is what I do, and nobody will prevent me from doing it, by making the software I use illegal or any other means. You hear that? You will prevent me from copying DVDs by "wresting Ripit4me out of my cold dead hands" - Thank you, Chuck Heston.
Sony pulled some crap where they scrambled "The Dark Night" and other POS titles, and someone immediately fixed it, all you have to do to copy those DVDs is to install AnyDVD, the software which seems to decrypt Blu-Ray as well- And run it in the background and let AnyDVD destroy any new encryption. Thank GOD that there are people who will just keep doing what is required to allow us our GOD and State given right to COPY.
Slysoft has always been in good odor with me and about 90% of the DVD-Copying population (And that population has increased by leaps and bounds in the year and a half since I posted it... At the time, maybe 1 in 10 had DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, Imgburn, FixVTS, and Ripit4me installed.
In my work I get to see the habits of "The Average Man" - And the average man has all of the aforementioned programs installed, we are talking in the last 4 months, 10 out of every 10 of my clients have had these things installed... As well as links to private forums where the art of making good region free and macrovoision and ArccoS and CSS free copies is being discussed NOW. Right NOW people are discussing how to bypass any crap that Sony, Disney, or any other manufacturer is trying to shove at is in the holy and nonexistant name of "Intellectual Property"
It is pleasing to see that Sony, by this action, has begun a massive and unstoppable movement of pissed off consumers who wish nothing else but to protect their investments.
Going back to what Mjfive said: What the Hell else are they gonna do to us?!
Eh? I am waiting for the day where Armed FBI in military SWAT uniform invade my home to arrest me for the thousands of DVDs I have copied and burned- They can add that to the charge of maliciously ripping that label right off the mattress of by bed.
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24. January 2009 @ 14:52 |
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Originally posted by XweAponX:
Well, it's been a year and a half since I posted my sentiments, and my sentiments still remain untouched, although some jackass edited the crap out of my post.
The last line basically said, "Screw Sony and it is time for the next person to stand up and bypass their *encyption* - The woed Encyrption was edi-deleted! I guess encyption is a 4 letter word now.
It cannot be legal for me to backup my expensive DVD collection and also be illegal for me to do it at the same time, and if Sony or other assjacks try to make me stop I will fight them to the fullest extent that I can. And I still perform backups it every time I return from the DVD store, and it is the first thing I do. Why do I do this? Because DVD is probably the most Volatile of all storage medium! I have Vinyl Phonogragh Disks from the 1930's but none od the CDs I bought when that medium was introduced survive today, and I was lucky enough to back up most of my collection to WAV files when that technology became available to me. I do not consider that stealing, I consider it protecting songs I spent several thousand dollars for. Nobody can tell me what I did was illegal or wrong or piracy or any such thing. In 2002 or so when my then-small DVD collection started to become corrupt, I began making copies of each disk, and now I have a copy of every film I bought as DVD... And I have master ISO images stashed away somewhere on old Hard Drives, which I check to make sure that they are still viable.
Why shouldn't I have done this? I spent the cash, I could have eaten something but instead I bought some movie for 26 bucks- Which is a lot of scratch.
So now I can watch these films where the original DVD has stopped fucntioning.
It is funny and actually hilarious that they try to tell us that "DVDs are electronic devices" - What CRAP! Utter Poop! DVDs are the medium which contains DATA which is played back on MY DVD PLAYER or My COMPUTER- It is not a device, it is a plate of tripe! It is a side of Beef. Electronic devices by definition MUST include electronic circuitry. But regardless of what it is, the basic law allows me to make BACKUPS. So that is what I do, and nobody will prevent me from doing it, by making the software I use illegal or any other means. You hear that? You will prevent me from copying DVDs by "wresting Ripit4me out of my cold dead hands" - Thank you, Chuck Heston.
Sony pulled some crap where they scrambled "The Dark Night" and other POS titles, and someone immediately fixed it, all you have to do to copy those DVDs is to install AnyDVD, the software which seems to decrypt Blu-Ray as well- And run it in the background and let AnyDVD destroy any new encryption. Thank GOD that there are people who will just keep doing what is required to allow us our GOD and State given right to COPY.
Slysoft has always been in good odor with me and about 90% of the DVD-Copying population (And that population has increased by leaps and bounds in the year and a half since I posted it... At the time, maybe 1 in 10 had DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, Imgburn, FixVTS, and Ripit4me installed.
In my work I get to see the habits of "The Average Man" - And the average man has all of the aforementioned programs installed, we are talking in the last 4 months, 10 out of every 10 of my clients have had these things installed... As well as links to private forums where the art of making good region free and macrovoision and ArccoS and CSS free copies is being discussed NOW. Right NOW people are discussing how to bypass any crap that Sony, Disney, or any other manufacturer is trying to shove at is in the holy and nonexistant name of "Intellectual Property"
It is pleasing to see that Sony, by this action, has begun a massive and unstoppable movement of pissed off consumers who wish nothing else but to protect their investments.
Going back to what Mjfive said: What the Hell else are they gonna do to us?!
Eh? I am waiting for the day where Armed FBI in military SWAT uniform invade my home to arrest me for the thousands of DVDs I have copied and burned- They can add that to the charge of maliciously ripping that label right off the mattress of by bed.
With today's technology the copyright mafia can not have absolute control over distribution it rakes to deeply into the personal freedoms of the masses. Instead Copyright should focus on profits made from distribution this would be a much easier to control on all levels as there are clear instances of rights violations.
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24. January 2009 @ 15:07 |
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Sorry, I was still editing out the Typos ahaha:
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"Instead Copyright should focus on profits made from distribution this would be a much easier to control on all levels as there are clear instances of rights violations."
Yes, exactly- Which is why the fuKkKin US is ultra STUPID for making software piracy "Illegal even with no monetary gain" - So now there is no way to find out who REALLY is a criminal and abusing the so called intellectual property rights of the copywrong holders.
By making a tacit, blanket statement "All THIS is illegal" they make it impossible to locate and prosecute people and groups who are making a lot of money doing actual piracy.
So what do they do? They pursue 40 year old disabled mothers, and intellectually challenged people, and old men in wheelchairs, and even kids in school trying to keep a large amount of multimedia content which would take up a LOT of space in CD and DVD storage, which would be stored as MP3s and DivXviD Avi files on SD memory cards or tiny USB hard drives, which carry larger and larger amounts of data as the physical medium gets smaller and smaller.
Which is the future, but the RIAA/MPAA does not want the future, they want the past, where they had absolute control, even over what bands and films are to become popular and which ones are not to become popular- Because of Overbloat-Packaging.
Technologies that allow us to MINIMISE out collections so we can take it with us and ENJOY it in circumstances where we would not be able to enjoy it otherwise? Are made ILLEGAL.
So, I also agree with that term you used, COPYWRONG MAFIA.
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24. January 2009 @ 15:23 |
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Sorry, I was still editing out the Typos ahaha:
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"Instead Copyright should focus on profits made from distribution this would be a much easier to control on all levels as there are clear instances of rights violations."
Yes, exactly- Which is why the fuKkKin US is ultra STUPID for making software piracy "Illegal even with no monetary gain" - So now there is no way to find out who REALLY is a criminal and abusing the so called intellectual property rights of the copywrong holders.
By making a tacit, blanket statement "All THIS is illegal" they make it impossible to locate and prosecute people and groups who are making a lot of money doing actual piracy.
So what do they do? They pursue 40 year old disabled mothers, and intellectually challenged people, and old men in wheelchairs, and even kids in school trying to keep a large amount of multimedia content which would take up a LOT of space in CD and DVD storage, which would be stored as MP3s and DivXviD Avi files on SD memory cards or tiny USB hard drives, which carry larger and larger amounts of data as the physical medium gets smaller and smaller.
Which is the future, but the RIAA/MPAA does not want the future, they want the past, where they had absolute control, even over what bands and films are to become popular and which ones are not to become popular- Because of Overbloat-Packaging.
Technologies that allow us to MINIMISE out collections so we can take it with us and ENJOY it in circumstances where we would not be able to enjoy it otherwise? Are made ILLEGAL.
So, I also agree with that term you used, COPYWRONG MAFIA.
Well look at the founding of the music industry they have always been after distribution and in pre digital times that's a reasonable thing to go after. However when you can copy or record something as easily as thinking, talking communicating about it focusing solely on distribution over steps the rights given to the content owner.
Focusing on profits alone is a better solution as you go after people who sale stuff without a license and you can go after places that rake in money through advertising. This allows for so much more give and take and allows the fans to build up interest in content as so the media industry can resell it to the masses.
If the media indutry focused on profits it would also help the conglomerates as they could offset cost by licensing out sales/publication to anyone willing re sell their stuff, with the ability for anyone to print a DVD/CD you could have a movement to bypass production and leave that up to the retailer/reseller.
But if anything is clear the media mafia dose not like change and innovation....
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26. January 2009 @ 12:39 |
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Well I can see who has no life...
Answering a post on an almost 2 yr old press release.
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But if anything is clear the media mafia dose not like change and innovation....
Yes, back when there was no internet. Then they could rape the public at will. Those were the good old days!
I for one have gotten tired buying the same album for the 4th time. Each time I buy it the price went up even though the expence in nmaking it has gone down. If the cost making an album is cut in half they double the price. How clever!
RIAA bite me!!!
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18. February 2009 @ 21:32 |
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Well, as of Feb. 18, 2009, Ripit4me still works on all of the new releases that I have purchased and all movies I have bought since it stopped being updated in April 2007. Looks like they haven't found a way around this program yet.
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19. February 2009 @ 07:50 |
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Then you have a limited collection. Though half the movies are bairly encrypted some are quite advanced. Old ripit is the best for bad pressings as long as the encryption is not too tricky.
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19. February 2009 @ 22:34 |
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Untrue, no limited collection here! Which titles have this "advanced encryption" that you are referring to? I have not had any problems with any new releases to date that I have bought so far!
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20. February 2009 @ 07:16 |
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Sony and Disney are both good for newer encryption. I think Madagascar I was the first of the new encryption.
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20. February 2009 @ 21:54 |
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I assume you are talking about the first Madagascar that came out about 3 or 4 years ago. Ripit had no problems whatsoever backing that one up. The new one that came out recently, I have not bought. I just might have to go to the store and pick that one up for the kids and try it out. I have also used DvdFab HD Decrypter on occassion, only because it seems to be a little quicker since it doesn't go through the FixVTS stage like Ripit does.
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21. February 2009 @ 00:01 |
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Try Madagascar 2, Saw IV and V etc.
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21. February 2009 @ 13:56 |
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Originally posted by orion250:
I assume you are talking about the first Madagascar that came out about 3 or 4 years ago. Ripit had no problems whatsoever backing that one up. The new one that came out recently, I have not bought. I just might have to go to the store and pick that one up for the kids and try it out. I have also used DvdFab HD Decrypter on occassion, only because it seems to be a little quicker since it doesn't go through the FixVTS stage like Ripit does.
You should run your DVDFab rips through FixVTS as well. It has the tendency to not provide the cleanest rips, which can hinder further processing.
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21. February 2009 @ 22:09 |
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Originally posted by ferguj1:
You should run your DVDFab rips through FixVTS as well. It has the tendency to not provide the cleanest rips, which can hinder further processing.
Did not know that. I prefer to use Ripit though for the 1 step process (includes FixVTS). No problems with the ones done with DvdFab HD Decrypter though.
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23. February 2009 @ 21:46 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
Sony and Disney are both good for newer encryption. I think Madagascar I was the first of the new encryption.
I picked up Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa and Ripit had no problems whatsoever backing that one up. As a matter of fact, because I was curious, I also ran that movie through DvdXcopy (which I haven't used in about 2 years and hasn't been updated for several years) and it also had no problems backing it up. I don't have any interest in spending money on any of the "SAW" movies so I won't be trying them out.
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23. February 2009 @ 22:07 |
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Originally posted by orion250:
Originally posted by Mez:
Sony and Disney are both good for newer encryption. I think Madagascar I was the first of the new encryption.
I picked up Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa and Ripit had no problems whatsoever backing that one up. As a matter of fact, because I was curious, I also ran that movie through DvdXcopy (which I haven't used in about 2 years and hasn't been updated for several years) and it also had no problems backing it up. I don't have any interest in spending money on any of the "SAW" movies so I won't be trying them out.
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if I may ask, are you running the lastest Anydvd in the background while using ripit4me ?
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23. February 2009 @ 22:24 |
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No other programs running in the background. I never had any luck with Anydvd, so deleted it. Just Ripit and DvdDecrypter, just like the good old days!
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24. February 2009 @ 09:11 |
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This is VERY interesting. It may have been the pressing or it may have been the first had better encryption. I do remember not being able to back that one up. No one on AD could at that time. I had to watch the original.
I have had disks that could not be backed up. They also did not play well. In fact I never watch a movie out of the box. They are all skippy these days. I also don't need to deal with the spam on the burned disk. Anyone that feels backing up is a science doen't know much. I am impressed how little I knew. You would figure after 8 yrs I should have figured it out.
Thanks!
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24. February 2009 @ 21:26 |
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When did you try to back Madagascar 2 up? What software did you try to do this with? Did you even try Ripit with this movie? If you still have Ripit, try to back this movie up just to see if it will work. I have NEVER had a problem backing any movie up with Ripit4me whether it be a new release or an older movie. I was surprised that DvdXCopy was able to do this movie since it has not been updated for about 4-5 years! It took about 12 minutes to back it up with Ripit and about 6 1/2 minutes to back it up with DvdXCopy. After using DvdXCopy and verifying that it did indeed back the movie up, I deleted it. What "spam on the burned disk" are you talking about? Is it all the junk that they include on the original disc? If so, just use VobBlanker after ripping and before burning to BLANK out or delete this garbage. Which program do you use for your rips? Has anyone heard from or seen Pacman around the board recently? Is he still around?
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25. February 2009 @ 07:07 |
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It was Madagascar I not II. It was 2-3 years ago. Defab and AnyDVD+Clone and Ripit4me. DeFab did come out with a fix. There was a time when nothing could back it up.
There were plenty of movies that could not be copied with ripit4me when I used ripit4me more often. That is still my second line of attack. Many woes are due to bad pressings which ripit does well.
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25. February 2009 @ 22:11 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
It was Madagascar I not II. It was 2-3 years ago. Defab and AnyDVD+Clone and Ripit4me. DeFab did come out with a fix. There was a time when nothing could back it up.
There were plenty of movies that could not be copied with ripit4me when I used ripit4me more often. That is still my second line of attack. Many woes are due to bad pressings which ripit does well.
Back when the 1st one came out, I hadn't even heard of Ripit and was only using DvdXCopy. DvdXCopy had no problem backing the 1st one up 3 or 4 years ago right after it first came out. I tried DvdXCopy on the second one I just bought and had no problems backing that one up as well. Do you have the second one (new one)? If so, try using Ripit to back that one up. Wouldn't you think they would have used some type of "advanced" encryption in the last 4 years on these movies so that even DvdXCopy couldn't get past it?
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