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Lets Paint The Kettle Black (2) Do You Have A Bitch ? Put On Your Rubbers And Wade In.
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8. October 2007 @ 10:19 |
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tocool4u2 you only ever pipe up to stir things, you can crawl back under that drain cover, if you don't mind...
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8. October 2007 @ 10:25 |
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Why not do this...instead of bitching about what is happening in the bitch thread, gerry1 or aabbccdd (or anyone who wants to do it) start a thread praising irelands efforts and contributions to afterdawn and those who want to say a kind word can if they wish, but this bickering about something that isn't likely to change does no one any good at all.
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8. October 2007 @ 10:49 |
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You need to work out to carry a 45?
no probably not but it does hurt lol
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8. October 2007 @ 10:49 |
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Loco ... so we just sweep it under the rug and pretend? Ireland was one of my favorite people here and someone who helped me more than anyone else. I guess I'm just pissed off at the way he was treated; the way he was just kicked the the curb.
@Creaky ... All adolescent males behave impulsively and often speak without considering the consequences; it is simply the nature of the beast and it is upon this premise that good schools and the military concentrate their training and efforts. I don't know a single parent who won't agree that their teen-aged son made them pull their hair out from time to time nor do I know a single parent who didn't take pride in their son when their efforts were successful. While adolescents must be allowed to spread their wings and live to some degree of trial and error, most will still keep a watchful eye even if only at a distance and jump in when necessary. This is no different here in a site; you, perhaps moreso than most of us, have run into it over and over again and I certainly have in my job. While our younger members might take offense at what I've said, they too will learn the truth of it when their time comes or when they look at their own teen-aged years in hindsight.
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8. October 2007 @ 10:51 |
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I meant it's gay that they did that to them. But still since he didn't have mod capabilities anyway what changed?
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8. October 2007 @ 10:56 |
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Gerry, I think you're alright and no offense, but who are you to say all this?
Get off your high horse already.
Edit: Woops, there goes my adolescent male mouth speaking impulsively without considering the consequences again!!
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8. October 2007 @ 10:58 |
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/me slaps Phlax with toocool's drain cover
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8. October 2007 @ 11:08 |
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Slap me all you want Rich, correct me if I'm wrong.
Heh, there I go again.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:18 |
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@Creaky ...LOL! I needed that!
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but who are you to say all this?Get off your high horse already.
A friend of Ireland perhaps? A guy who sticks up for his friends perhaps? An old fashioned concept; I know.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:20 |
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@Creaky ,,, LOL! I needed a laugh.
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Gerry, I think you're alright and no offense, but who are you to say all this?Get off your high horse already.
A friend of Irelands perhaps? Someone who sticks up for his friends perhaps? A really old fashioned and out of date concept, I know.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:21 |
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Originally posted by gerry1:
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but who are you to say all this?Get off your high horse already.
A friend of Ireland perhaps? A guy who sticks up for his friends perhaps? An old fashioned concept; I know.
Aw, that's sweet. I think you're overlooking the fact that this is not real life, though. So you get on well with ireland, to what extent I don't know, but there's not need to go on a cross-forum rampage about how he's been around a while and suddenly lost an otherwise pointless title!
I'm sure there are many members who agree with me, so shoot.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:32 |
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I think you're overlooking the fact that this is not real life, though.
So the feelings and betrayal of the person on the other end aren't real life then? Just imaginary? ...this lack of face to face contact gives us the right to do and say as we please? If you have no feelings or compassion for the imaginary person to whom or about which your words are aimed, it is you, Phlax, who have some self-examination to do.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:37 |
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Ugh, I've been passively monitoring this forum for a while, and always enjoyed Ireland's contributions. I'll miss those.
As for tocool4u, is there not a better way of keeping turds like that out of the forums?
I know better than to just pipe up to tell people off, that's not my job, nor is it anyone's besides the forum moderators and admins, if they so choose to do so. What's happened has happened, and like all the "I've had enough, I'm off" incidents there have been before, it eventually blows over, but goodness do people make a fuss.
Threads like this are exactly why I mostly stay out of the safety valve
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8. October 2007 @ 11:38 |
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Originally posted by gerry1:
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I think you're overlooking the fact that this is not real life, though.
So the feelings and betrayal of the person on the other end aren't real life then? Just imaginary? ...this lack of face to face contact gives us the right to do and say as we please? If you have no feelings or compassion for the imaginary person to whom or about which your words are aimed, it is you, Phlax, who have some self-examination to do.
Nice analogy Gerry. How you feel about someone you know merely through the internet is not for me to judge, I just think you're taking things a bit too seriously. At the end of the day you're only arguing for his title's sake.. I'm sure if ireland had kept his title on closure of the forums there would be NO fuss right about now, merely a few "sad faces" at their demise. And why do you think the lack of "face-to-face" contact is having any influence on what I say? Lastly Gerry, I'm under no illusion that ireland is some kind of imaginary entity, I just don't care about his precious status.
Edit: Grammar
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8. October 2007 @ 11:43 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
As for tocool4u, is there not a better way of keeping turds like that out of the forums?
he's one of life's thorns in the side, and like a bad penny insists on coming back over and over ad finitum; at least in IRC in ad_buddies we were able to get the satisfaction of letting him back in, waiting for him to spout a load of old dishcloth, then take turns in booting him out; thought it had finally taught him a lesson, but it seems here on the forums he gets to find ways of sneaking back in; ah well, he's perverse, he enjoys it anyway, but we'll hopefully get rid of him in the end..
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Threads like this are exactly why I mostly stay out of the safety valve
absolutely; exactly why i only pop in then unsubscribe shortly afterwards, i just drop in then get out sharpish.. in fact will do so very shortly..
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8. October 2007 @ 11:45 |
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I hope so for all our sakes. Best of luck in that endeavour... :D
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8. October 2007 @ 11:48 |
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I'd like to point out he can be alright when he wants to be, he's just a genuine idiot most of the time :-)
Lmfao
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8. October 2007 @ 11:48 |
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@tocool4u2
Have a nice vacation..}:)
@Ireland
I have read more posts by Ireland then by anyone else...In my opinion Ireland has contributed more then anyone I know on AD...I hope you stick around and help those who appreciate all your work...I know I do..:)
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8. October 2007 @ 11:52 |
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I have read more posts by Ireland then by anyone else...In my opinion Ireland has contributed more then anyone I know on AD...I
Lol, I wonder why.
Poor tocool.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:53 |
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Loco ... so we just sweep it under the rug and pretend? Ireland was one of my favorite people here and someone who helped me more than anyone else. I guess I'm just pissed off at the way he was treated; the way he was just kicked the the curb.
When and where did I say to pretend that nothing has happened? If the people who loved ireland so much love him as much as they claim why not start a thread to honor him instead of fighting about something that isn't going to change. You know I've had my disagreements with ireland in the past, but I don't want to see anyone leave for good. The leaving is ireland decision, no one else's. He merely carried a title under his name for a site that was dormant. He had no powers here at all, so why no just carry on? Do you think people would taunt him because of a different "title" below his name? I think it is really futile to continue arguing about this too because ireland, the one who the argument is about, won't be here to defend himself or make any statements that allow the conversation to continue. Ireland made one post and one post only since this has all gone down and it was in the thread that has carried on for three pages now. Defending a freind or not, you must admit you are fighting for a lost cause. The reason you see ireland as the "the one who helped you out the most here" is because this, the SV, is where you stay (not to mention the stereo threads), so it isn't a far stretch to say that he is the only helping "you". If you had a problem ripping a DVD and you would have posted it in the DVD Shrink forum I'm sure someone besides ireland would have come to your aid. If you had a question about converting an avi and posted it in the appropriate forum, someone would have helped you...that someone might not have been ireland. So to say that he has helped you more than anyone else here isn't exactly a qualifying statement.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:54 |
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Phlax, my anger isn't against you, but a look below the surface wouldn't hurt. It's got nothing to do with "Titles" ...Ireland would be the first to tell you that they don't mean squat anymore anyway. Put yourself is his shoes: he and others like him advanced this site since its inception only to be thrown out like yesterdays garbage when they're through using you.
I'll say no more on this subject I am, admittedly pissed off that one of the very anchors of this site was treated without a single breath of gratitude but rather, treated like shit; its time to examine the worth of things.
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8. October 2007 @ 11:57 |
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Originally posted by gerry1:
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the x-copy members didn't do a whole lot of posting on AD, in my observance, besides in the safety valve or messing with rule-breakers. they created atmosphere, yes, but on afterdawn itself, didn't do as much as more regular members.
Ireland didn't do as much as more regular members? Are we frequenting the same site? Ireland has certainly helped me out more than anyone else here! I rather doubt that I'm the only person here to benefit from his knowledge and experience.
perhaps with photoshop or somewhere in the the digital photography forum; i don't know, i don't frequent those. but most of what i've seen him post in the past few years has either been a link to the rules, one of his (rather well done) animations on the sig rules, jokes, or news. i'm not saying i won't miss that stuff, but i am saying that's pretty much all i saw him posting on any regular basis.
maybe because i have been of the mindset that titles mean jack (not you, brit-boy) for so long now, i'm not sure, but this just doesn't seem like a big deal to me. none of ireland's privileges on afterdawn changed. he would still have been known the forums-over for being a joker and helpful in whatever way he could offer.
like i said before, they were disused forums that were closed. and as said by others, i doubt this would be such a bad situation if ireland kept his title. for over a year, as drd said, this has been coming. it was destined to happen. ireland wasn't demoted, he was just...re-titled laterally.
seems kind of petty to me, is all.
but then again, folks, i'm rather jaded and would have been driven insane by now if i took my love-hate relationship with this forum seriously.
"don't take life too seriously; you'll never get out of it alive."
-Elbert Hubbard
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8. October 2007 @ 11:57 |
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Gerry, finally, an answer that isn't anger channeled at me. I'm not going to say anything else on it to you either, I don't care to.
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8. October 2007 @ 12:02 |
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Originally posted by gerry1:
Phlax, my anger isn't against you, but a look below the surface wouldn't hurt. It's got nothing to do with "Titles" ...Ireland would be the first to tell you that they don't mean squat anymore anyway. Put yourself is his shoes: he and others like him advanced this site since its inception only to be thrown out like yesterdays garbage when they're through using you.
I'll say no more on this subject I am, admittedly pissed off that one of the very anchors of this site was treated without a single breath of gratitude but rather, treated like shit; its time to examine the worth of things.
but that is exactly how forums, and the internet in general, work. when a page or site is no longer useful, it is archived and progress stops. if there's no longer any reason to keep it for archival purposes, the page is deleted. otherwise, it's just wasted space and a target for scrip kiddies.
according to the admin, ireland had been pm'ed in the past. i think drd handled this as well as could be expected by anyone put in his situation.
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8. October 2007 @ 12:09 |
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Instead of lurking I must bitch in the bitch thread.
Why is everyone crying about titles, and why would it effect an adult enough to "take my ball and go home?"
Lets step back and look from a different angle.
The head of a website has every right and should be expected to clean up old forums/ threads. If no one uses it, should XCopy forum be immune? If there is no XCopy, technically there is nothing to moderate...
I moderate a forum on a different website too but I dont ask to have the title The Dirty Sanchez next to my nick...
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