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Treker
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7. October 2004 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okey guys, don´t laugh but I need anyone´s opinion on the stuff I use to capture video.
-DAZZLE hollywood bridge( I´ve used a svhs camera for the last 6 years)analog to dv converted and sent via firewire to the computer.Capture in dv setting,726x576 AVI.
-PINNACLE studio, I started with 7, using 8 and about to put 9 in a few days.
I know this sounds pretty crap,¿ anyone using the same equip ?

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7. October 2004 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there a better product that can be purchased at Circuit City or Best Buy?
Thanks
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9. October 2004 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dear Minion,

Sorry for being so late to this forum. I see that you're very knowledgable with analogue-digital conversion. At present, I'm in the same boat as almost everyone who post on this thread. It a hard choice deciding what to get.

My senario is this:

analogue video camera, video8 with output as composite video and 2 rca audio out

VCR with the same outputs

laptop with 4 pin firewire port and 2 usb 2 ports

laptop is P4 3GHz, 512Meg ram, DVD+R/RW, 64 megs NVidia Go video card, onboard sound card

desktop dell 4600, P4 3GHz, 1 Gig ram, CDRW with DVD ROM drive, no firewire input, 1 spare PCI slots

another desktop Dell 4100 (4 yrs old), P3 800MHz, 512Meg ram, 64Meg NVidia Ultra2 video card, Creative sound card, Pioneer DVD-/+R/RW drive, DVD-ROM drive

Software:

Ulead MovieFactory 2SE

ULead VideoStudio 8 trial

Nero Express 5.5

The questions:

Is the Canopus ADVC 100 the best for its price range? In terms of portability etc?

Can I use the 4 pin firewire port of the ADVC100 to output to my laptop (4 pin firewire only)?

Do I need any capture software?

Do I need anymore software to convert AVI to MPEG2 for burning onto DVD?

If so, are there any free version?
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9. October 2004 @ 16:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Furthermore, If I'm not too keen on sending the digital file back to analogue, would it be better to save some dough and just but the Canopus ADVC 55?
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10. October 2004 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Canopus ADVC-100 doesn"t send your video back out as analogue unless you want to record the Captured Video to a VCR in which case you have to use analogue because a VCR is analogue but for the captureing it is allways digital DV....

The ADVC-55 would work just as well as the advc-100 accept that the ADVC-100 is a More Portible device as the ADVC-55 uses a 5in drive bay on a Desktop tower were the ADVC-100 just sits on your table and has a seperate power supply and the ADVC-55 uses the 12v Molex connector from your PSU in your desktop....

None of these device need any extra Drivers to work...
You will still probably need Video editing software and Mpeg encodeing software and Video capture software....
You can use Ulead DVD movie Factory to capture to Mpeg2 and to encode but the quality will not be nearly as good as if you use a good quality standalone mpeg Encoder and Captured directly to DV AVI useing Native DV Capture software like "Scenalyzer Live" ......

If you were able to get a high end video editing Program like Adobe Premier Pro or Vegas Video 5 then they have built in Capture and encodeing software....
There are other Cheaper editing programs that have some simular features if you PM me with your email address I can send you some links to some sites were you can see what features they have and I can give you some recomendations.....

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10. October 2004 @ 16:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks.

I thought the ADVC 55 is the smaller portable unit while the ADVC 50 is the 5 in bay unit.
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10. October 2004 @ 17:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HI their
to who ever see this cry for help hope thr more answer here.
Been having a little trouble !!!
I just purchase this ATI - 9800pro - All in wonder 128MB i have a whole bunch of VHS tapes and i am trying to tranfer them to DVD cuz were i am living thr is alot of dampnest and with time they will get damege. I put in One of my kids tape on is ok but when i tryird to copy one of my BBC comedy's from the UK it say is PAL looks like my vcr dont let the vedio out but i can here the audio a little fast but i can here it can ne one help me
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10. October 2004 @ 21:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ray123: Yes you are Right it can be Totally Portable and it can also fit into a Drive Bay...

Here"s what it says about it on the canopus site:

ADVC55 is ideal for capturing analog video into FireWire-equipped notebook and desktop editing computers. There are no drivers to install and ADVC55 does not require a power supply when used with a 6-pin DV cable.


> Connects to all widely used DV and analog video equipment
> Compatible with Windows and Mac OS DV editing systems
> Compatible with leading editing and DVD authoring applications including Canopus EDIUS, Canopus Let's EDIT, Sonic Foundry® Vegas®, Final Cut Pro®, Avid Xpress® DV, Adobe® Premiere® Pro, Pinnacle Edition,
Ulead Media Studio® Pro, and Windows Movie Maker
> No need to install drivers or any software applications
> Powered by IEEE 1394 (FireWire) connector*
> NTSC and PAL compatible

* Using the 4-pin IEEE 1394 connector requires the ADVC55 AC Kit (sold separately)

Broad Compatibility
Broad video equipment and software compatibility ensures ADVC55 provides a long product life and a high return on investment.

Intelligent Input/Output
ADVC55's intelligent usability allows for easy setup and connection in any video environment. Automatic input signal detection and convenient front / back connectors ensure easy setup and operation.

Proven DV codec Technology
At the heart of ADVC55 is Canopus 's proprietary DV codec chip providing the industry's best picture quality preservation during analog-to-DV conversion.

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wmiao
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10. October 2004 @ 22:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Because of the budget, I have to use my laptop as my video work station.

P4 2.66G -- 512 RAM --- 40G HD.

I have a Canopus ADVC300 to do the AD convertion.I want to buy an external HD and an external DVD+/-R driver.

My first question is about the external HD speed.Is the external HD that uses the USB2.0 fast enough to avoid the frame dropping when I do the video capturing? And is it fast enough to work smoothly with the furture video editing?

And my second question is also about the speed. Compare to the internal HD and DVD+/-R driver, how much does them slow down when burning a DVD-r with the external devices, such as a 120 minutes ready to burn DVD movie.

Any answer and advice is sooooooo appreciated.

I use Adobe premiere pro 7.0. By the way, Canopus is fabulous!

Smiling Sculpture
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11. October 2004 @ 01:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes a External USB Hard drive should be fast enough for DV Capture considering the Data is being transfered to the PC Via Firewire which is slower than USB 2.0 ...You shouldn"t have any problems with a USB hard Drive or DVD Burner as long as you don"t capture and Burn at the Same time....

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wmiao
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11. October 2004 @ 06:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Minion, I learned a lot from your posts. Thank you for your nice job.

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 ... I've posted this in different threads, but I'll do it for your benefit here, because I think it's the easiest way to preserve old VHS tapes ... Go to Sam's Club and buy a Lite-On LVW-5101 set top DVD recorder ... Sam's has this one for a tick under $140, which I think is a real bargain ... Go to http://www.samsclub.com and search for LVW-5101 ...

 ... and it even has a front firewire port ...

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12. October 2004 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dear catfreak.

So you're suggesting that its ?better/?economical to use a stand-alone DVD Recorder to transfer analogue video onto DVD. I presume the transcoding is done by the DVD Recorder. I presume that I can then use the PC to edit etc. and burn the final DVD product. Am I correct in these assumption? That would definitely be great.

However, can I ask what the quality of the capture is like compared to something like the Canopus ADVC-100 or ADVC-55?

I also read in another forum that these DVD Recorders can be a pain to use and are not too reliable or had poor quality reproductions.

Please advise.

Thanks.
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13. October 2004 @ 09:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
 ... I'm not sure if it is more economical or better to use a stand alone DVD recorder to transfer VHS to DVD ... but it the easiest ... I don't really know much about the LVW-5101 machine ... I have a LVW-5005 and I've successfully transferred dozens of VHS tapes to DVD using the machine ... I suggested the LVW-5101 because the Lite-On brand has always done me just fine ... AND the price of the LVW-5101 is almost $100 less than anything else ... As far as editing ... I've been editing the VHS tapes "on the fly" as I transfer them onto DVD ... If you want you can take the DVD from the recorder and load it onto your computer and do with it as you wish ... I use DVD Decrypter to load them on my CPU and have used ArcSoft ShowBiz2 and Windows Movie Maker to play around with (they came with my Windows XP O/S) ... Then burn with DVD Decrypter back to another DVD ... I suppose you could burn the VHS to a DVD+RW then write it to your HD thereby saving a disc ...

 ... As far as the quality of the capture ... You got me there ... I've never used ADVC-100 or 55 so I can't really tell ... I do know that there is no difference between the quality of the VHS tape and the copy I've been making with my LVW-5005 ...

 ... Also one other advantage of the "set top" recorder ... It can be used as a digital VCR ... That's most of the use that I give mine ...

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14. October 2004 @ 00:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,just stumbled across this great forum so signed up ............i am having problems transfering analogue to dvd since i bought my writer, i have tried heaps of things but always come up against another problem, first i will tell you my setup.
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1 gig ddr400
2 x 40ata133hd (for c drive and dedicated capturing)
leadtek a310td (fx5600 vivo)
i don't need perfect quality video, but i do need it to work on a DVD which i am having trouble with.
ok ......i capture using winfast pvr as mpeg2 (tried dv aswell) captures fine then use dvd lab to author it , but it says it has a GOP size problem ? so i try pinnancle studio 8 i add effects etc then then to dvd (using the same captured mpeg2) it fails before actually burning the dvd. i tend to think my mpeg2 capturing is dodgy ? it plays and looks fine but i noticed the bitrate on a 36 minute clip is 6006 not 6000 as it should be ? is that my problem ? ohhh if i do a short clip its fine doing it the way i stated.
i used to capture to mpeg1 and make VCD but now i have a dvd writer i thought .......... nothing is ever easy is it :(
uknzdean
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14. October 2004 @ 01:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh my dvd writer is a sony Dru700A but i dont get that far so that can't be my problem ?:P
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damn i keep remembering things after i click reply lol ........... i have tried windvr3 as a capture device aswell but the sound is shocking even though the settings seem to be ok? could i capture in WM9 using movie maker then burn to dvd ?
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14. October 2004 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just use the Capture software you were useing before but going into the settings and shorten the GOP length and then you will not get a GOP size error in DVDLab...

In Windvr 3.0 you can adjust the Sound so it isn"t so "Shocking" as you say....

This really is not a very hard thing to do especially if you are captureing to Mpeg2....

You can also author VCD"s to DVD just make sure the audio is at 48000hz and you shouldn"t have any problems and you can fit 6 to 8 hours on a DVD in VCD Format....

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14. October 2004 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Again sorry if u guys did not understood me
but iam trying to tranfer a VHS tape tht the format is PAL i got it home now and it wont show video picture but i can hear the sound is thr a way to overide tht
thx
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14. October 2004 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Firstly can your VCR Properly Play PAL VHS tapes because not all can....

Also can your Capture Card Capture from a PAL Signal??

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14. October 2004 @ 21:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for that minion, but in the settings for winfast pvr there is no GOP setting ? is it the video quality i need to turn down ? i capture it as a preset DVD PAL format - mpeg2 720x576, video quality 333 and target data rate 6000kbps.i live in a PAL area (new zealand)so everything i have is PAL.
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14. October 2004 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No it is not a Quality setting...Well if it doesn"t have a GOP setting and the Captured files have too long of a GOP then it makes the Program pretty Damn Useless....

In My experience InterVideo WinDVR 3.0captures some of the best Quality mpeg2 Files.. and if you can capture with it then you should because it has setting for the GOP which you can adjust if you get an error authoring the Captured file to DVD....

If the Volume is too loud when you capture with WinDVR then first adjust the "Line In" volume in the Windows Audio settings ,and then if it is still too loud then turn the audio way down in the WinDVR Device settings...You can also enhance and normalize the audio after Captureing by useing a audio editor like GoldWave or Sound Forge.....

The MainConcept Encoder also has a very good Mpeg and AVI Capture module built into it that produces very good quality and there are a few others that are good and have GOP controlls but not many....


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yes i guess the capture software that Leadtek give you wouldn't be the best , i will give win dvr3 another go as your tips on the sound are good , it does sound like it is capturing the volume way to high so distorting it and sort of sounds like it is playing to loud through crap speakers ........ i will lower the line in volume etc. Thanks heaps, i will tell you how i get on with the sound and then a decent length capture (GOP size problem)
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I am attempting to convert VHS tapes to DVD, as it appears most are in this thread. I can get my video onto the hard drive in MPEG or Video_TS formats. I can make a DVD and play the MPEG on the computer, not on a DVD player. I can play the Video_TS on the computer but the audio is all screwed up. Any suggestions on how I can get the video from the hard drive to a playable DVD would be appreciated. By the way, the computer is a DEll Dimension APS with 2 megs of ram. The capture program I am using is AVerMedia DVD EZMaker. I have tried using the DVD create program that came with this program and Roxio Easy DVD Creator 6.0. Same results.
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15. October 2004 @ 17:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,

I have several home made movies on VHS cassettes, which I wish to copy to DVD. I also have a video card that
allows me to record straight from the Video player into an mpeg file. So far so good. However, the mpeg file
generated is too big (the source cassette is 3hrs long) and wont fit on a DVD (i dont have a DL burner).
This clearly is too long. I could split it into 2 dvd
disks, but would like to avoid it if possible.
I had a look at Nero recode/vision express, but it tells me the quality would be too low.
Surely there's a way as I can see many DivX, Mpeg and SVCD movies which are full length but do not occupy a complete DVD space. Sure the quality is lower than the
original, but still good enough to watch, and the
source, in my case comes from a VHS movie - the quality
there cannot be too good in the first place.

Also, if possible, I would like to minimise the number
of steps required to accomplish this. I realise this is
not going to be a one step thing, but the less the better.

Any help and ideas would be very w

Cheers,

Bonny
 
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