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Warner Bros. goes Blu-ray
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article published on 4 January, 2008
According to an announcement by Barry Meyer, Chairman and CEO of Warner Bros., the studio has decided to throw its support behind Blu-ray beginning in May 2008 meaning it will no longer be dual format.
"Warner Bros.' move to exclusively release in the Blu-ray disc format is a strategic decision focused on the long term and the most direct way to give consumers what they want," explained ... [ read the full article ]
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eatsushi
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7. January 2008 @ 12:15 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
there are also 2ndary markets where HDVD could be viable thus keeping it aloft for years,
Do you mean p0rn?
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7. January 2008 @ 12:20 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
there are also 2ndary markets where HDVD could be viable thus keeping it aloft for years,
Do you mean p0rn?
Storage,porn,cams,ect,ect if its cheaper than BR to make mini HDVD discs and what not its very viable for 2ndry markets,frankly it would make for a better console format than BR just for the roylity and production costs alone but in 2+ years out thos might be more manageable than they are currently.. oh gwad...I jsut said nintendo would use HDVD in the furture didn't I....with their pension for "obsruce" formats it has to coem to be LOL.
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lordesq
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7. January 2008 @ 12:41 |
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Let's say Warner accepted a $500 million offer from HD DVD to drop BluRay then BluRay eventually loses. By your definition this would be a case of "limiting the competition", an unfair business practice, and would therefore be illegal. Am I right?
Actually this was what was about to happen. Warner was ready to side with HD DVD until a last minute deal was struck. There was supposed to be a very big announcement at their CES party last night - which was cancelled BTW. Let's face it, BluRay had the better negotiating team and pulled off a great business deal. HD DVD have no one else to blame but themselves for letting Warner slip through their fingers.
Absolutley. I'm not a fanboy, just using logic. If Toshiba did the same thing it would still be limiting the competition. Its slightly less offensive because toshiba does not own a movie production studio and is not in competition with warner. I happen to own both a ps3 and a HDDVD standalone...I actually don't think the blu ray is superior. They both do exactly the same thing.
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chubbyInc
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7. January 2008 @ 13:39 |
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HD movies on USB thumb drives is the future, who wants a fragile disc anyways.
Scrap the whole Blu-Ray and HD-DVD
Concentrate on USB stick which can vary in sizes (because not all HD movies require 25-50 GBs), gives the same HD quality and will last longer than any crappy disc. Think of the consumers for once.
If any company wants to prevail as leader bring out the HD-USB movie stick!!!
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7. January 2008 @ 13:45 |
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Originally posted by chubbyInc:
HD movies on USB thumb drives is the future, who wants a fragile disc anyways.
Scrap the whole Blu-Ray and HD-DVD
Concentrate on USB stick which can vary in sizes (because not all HD movies require 25-50 GBs), gives the same HD quality and will last longer than any crappy disc. Think of the consumers for once.
If any company wants to prevail as leader bring out the HD-USB movie stick!!!
USB(flash,ect)? I don't think so not with it still being 8-13$ per GB, now if, disc will be viable for the movie industry for 10-20 years until they can make a 20-50GB storage device thats small and under 20$.
It will take more than 20 years for the world to become "rich" enough in bandwidth for the media industry's to sale "data" direct to the consumer on a world wide basis so discs are good for the next 15 years easily.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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lordesq
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7. January 2008 @ 14:25 |
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ooh I don't know about 20yrs. I can download a movie on my 360 in about 40min in 720p hd today. I think in the next couple of years discs will serve as a stepping stone to downloads...although we'll need something to put those discs on...my biggest complaint about the 360 is that the movies are only good for one view or 14 days from download. I want to be able to download an hd movie and then burn it so I can keep it. A combo of a download service with jvc's hd dvd solution would be loads better than the current solutions.
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7. January 2008 @ 14:36 |
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Originally posted by lordesq:
ooh I don't know about 20yrs. I can download a movie on my 360 in about 40min in 720p hd today. I think in the next couple of years discs will serve as a stepping stone to downloads...although we'll need something to put those discs on...my biggest complaint about the 360 is that the movies are only good for one view or 14 days from download. I want to be able to download an hd movie and then burn it so I can keep it. A combo of a download service with jvc's hd dvd solution would be loads better than the current solutions.
*falls off chair*
If they can not sale in volume world wide they can not make a profit, there is not enough users world wide to sustain the indutry on digital download alone thus why you are looking at 10+ years before the switch to it, just because you and 500K-1M people who can download a HD movie in less than an hour dosen't mean the 1B worth of the populace that spends money on media can. The millions upon milloins of people who are not online is where the media industrys bread and butter is at thus why discs and or single film devices will be very relevant to them in that time frame.
The industry dose not work on whats best it works on what they can sell to not only the consumer but to them selfs, BR/discs are here to stay for 10 years easily outside of 10 I can see did distro taking over 5-20% of the "dsic" market but what is most likely you will have "discs" for 20.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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lordesq
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7. January 2008 @ 14:40 |
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You think poor people in third world countries with dial up are currently in the market for and hdtv and a high def player???
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7. January 2008 @ 14:48 |
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Originally posted by lordesq:
You think poor people in third world countries with dial up are currently in the market for and hdtv and a high def player???
Are they buying DVD? yes why because tis the mainstream format backed by the media industry of the world...you are getting Hdef and current standards crossed, Hdef is a niche market and will be until it can saturate the market's and that wont be till it comes within range of DVDs prices.
Even 2nd world nations don't have good net infrastructure on top of that the US is still only 50-70% covered in reliable fast cheap internet... you are fooling yourself if you think that digital downloads are viable for the media industry's as the main channel to distribute film, that simply wont come to pass for 10-20 years.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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lordesq
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7. January 2008 @ 14:51 |
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I'm not foolish. I'm not attacking you. Don't attack me. I just think technology is advancing far faster than you give it credit. Think 20yrs back. We're talking 1988! What internet were you surfing in 1988?
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7. January 2008 @ 15:11 |
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Originally posted by lordesq:
I'm not foolish. I'm not attacking you. Don't attack me. I just think technology is advancing far faster than you give it credit. Think 20yrs back. We're talking 1988! What internet were you surfing in 1988?
20 years might be to long, but 10-15 is more than likely, unless the media industry has learned from MS and will make a short trem standards that only lasts 3-4 years(...think of ME..and vista :P)
I understand that growth of tech is fast but also there is the growth of the industry and its financial needs to take into consideration when you are talking abotu changing how media is solely or mainly disturbed on a world wide scale.
Discs will be the main distribution point for media for 5-10 years easily beyond that the industry could head a 2 front effort to ween the world of discs and head a replacement effort for discs. The main problem with replacing discs is that outside of 15 years bandwidth should have grown enough world wide for the media industries to halve or drop physical distribution.
PS:we all are fools in our own way, least me and the vocies think so ^_~
PSS:I also think its foolish to think the media conglomerates would drop physical distribution in less than 10 years,there just to much money to be had to not do both until one is unprofiable.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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lordesq
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7. January 2008 @ 15:21 |
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No I don't think disc distribution is going to stop. Certainly I think the way we receive our media is going to change. We used to buy cds. I haven't bought a cd in years. That happened pretty fast too. Also we're talking about premium services. We're not talking about the masses yet. It will be a long time before HDTVs make it into the majority of households...and I don't mean digital set top boxes, I mean 42inch or greater 720p or higher tv sets. These are the people who bought playstations to play movies on and download content on their macs so they can watch movies on their phones. The target for HD for the next five years is not india, china, or Russia; its america, japan and europe. These are the consumers that will pay a premium for enhanced picture quality. Which is what we're talking about. Its not unreasonable to think that their methods of acquiring entertainment will change and change quickly.
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7. January 2008 @ 15:40 |
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Originally posted by lordesq:
No I don't think disc distribution is going to stop. Certainly I think the way we receive our media is going to change. We used to buy cds. I haven't bought a cd in years. That happened pretty fast too. Also we're talking about premium services. We're not talking about the masses yet. It will be a long time before HDTVs make it into the majority of households...and I don't mean digital set top boxes, I mean 42inch or greater 720p or higher tv sets. These are the people who bought playstations to play movies on and download content on their macs so they can watch movies on their phones. The target for HD for the next five years is not india, china, or Russia; its america, japan and europe. These are the consumers that will pay a premium for enhanced picture quality. Which is what we're talking about. Its not unreasonable to think that their methods of acquiring entertainment will change and change quickly.
well we are aguring over the same thing but diffrent ends, I was thinking you were talking abotu replacing the main distro of media with digi,
my bad...zomg zippy focus on one thing zippy mash LOL
but ya theres no doubt Hdef will grow and so will digi distro but it will be 10+ if not 15+ years before digi distro the becomes main focal point of the industry.
I think 5-10 to get Hdef to become fully mainstream and another 5-10 on top of it for digi distro to replace it at 50% or above.
But truthfully I think digi distro's main trouble is high speed broadband proliferation and land lines I really think in the next 50 years when satilite tech really breaks to replace land line and we have high speed (5Mbits/700KBPS+) thats when digi distro will be everything, but even without it in 15-20 eyars there should be enough of the world to support media services that can offer "everything" online.
Gee..kinda like what we have now with torrents and such but costing like cable/TV a small monthly fee under 50$ to have access to large media libraries and the media conglomerates would just get a cut or deals to advertise on thos services, of coarse this service would be agreed upon by all media industries in a move to maintain profit having a simplified agreement of profit sharing between the services and the CP/IP "owners"....but that might be wishful thinking LOL.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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