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wiigame
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6. February 2008 @ 23:37 |
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How did people actually rip the DL version of the game, like with rawdump? Also, what DVD drive did they use? Did they use the 186* drive that was used for the regular backup of wii games? I am asking this because I want to be ready to backup a US copy of this game when I get it, and if I happen to order the real copy from Japan I want to know how to back it up and rip it to my computer.
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dervid18
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6. February 2008 @ 23:45 |
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nekokabu released a new version of the wii dumper. as far as i know they used the same wii-friendly drives as before. p.s. anyone wanna brawl???? i need brawl codes!!! soooooo ronery!!
David.
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DNT5
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7. February 2008 @ 02:38 |
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I've read what everyone's said in regard to Error 001, but it still doesn't make sense.
Firstly, the 10-15% trick isn't relevant because I'm on an NTSC-JPN Wii and so I let the update run all the way (it's the same region, so there's no risk of duplicated channels.) The error is happening to people on both NTSC-USA and NTSC-JPN Wiis who have either done or not done the 10-15% trick. This means the 10-15% trick probably has nothing to do with it.
Secondly, I'm pretty sure BrickBlocker has nothing to do with it either. Since I let the update run all the way, I can boot and play a non-BrickBlocked DVD5 just fine. And again, the problem is that the DVD9 will not boot directly, neither BrickBlocked or non-BrickBlocked. It will only run via swap trick. I'm guessing that NTSC-USA players that have used the 10-15% trick need the BrickBlocked version to even boot, but that has nothing to do with Error 001. I'm pretty sure BrickBlocker is irrelevant to this problem as well.
Thirdly, I'll try the 3x speed setting tomorrow, but like beertent said, that doesn't explain the swap trick working to play the DVD9 copy just fine at 6x setting. Maybe the 3x setting is a workaround, but it's not the solution and doesn't explain the problem. (And quite frankly, I'd rather use the swap trick and have faster load times.)
I've been slowly eliminating non-relevant factors one by one, but we still haven't narrowed it down to the one that's causing the problem. I already knew that the above factors were non-relevant, so I still haven't gotten anywhere with this problem since I made the post.
Anyone else got any ideas?
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dervid18
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7. February 2008 @ 02:42 |
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i am pretty sure i heard that some wiis lasers were just having trouble reading the discs and that nintendo was cleaning peoples lasers for them, although i wouldnt send them a modded cosole XD
David.
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DNT5
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7. February 2008 @ 02:44 |
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Originally posted by dervid18:
i am pretty sure i heard that some wiis lasers were just having trouble reading the discs and that nintendo was cleaning peoples lasers for them, although i wouldnt send them a modded cosole XD
Again, doesn't explain the swap trick working. :/ The DVD9 backup READS just fine when you use the swap trick. It just won't boot the game from the Disc Channel screen.
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dervid18
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7. February 2008 @ 03:00 |
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that is really bizarre. i am assuming you have the wiikey 1.9g? that is weird though. i know that i had trouble almost immediately when i changed my speed from 3x to 6x and changed it back to 3x but that doesn't explain the swap trick really. my best suggestion would be to reburn at 1x with the best dual layer discs you can afford. i burned mine on hp dvd+r dl discs and both worked. (i burned a test copy fast and then another at 1x to ensure the best results once i knew that it actually worked.)
David.
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Kaze999
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7. February 2008 @ 05:10 |
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Just want to check - I have a pal wiikey and can play super mario galaxy, does this mean I have wiikey version 1.9g and region override ON? I don't have the 1.3 config disc and the wiikey websites down so hoping I don't need to do anything before trying SSBB.
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timewolf
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7. February 2008 @ 06:43 |
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Hello,
I've a problem:
I burned the DVD9 with a 1TEK DVD DL, burned at 2,4 with imgburn.
The game starts, but I got often a white screen with japanes char, probably an Error Read Mex, if I eject/insert the DVD the game continues.
What's the problem? The 1tek? the write speed? The Wii lens (I got this error only with this game, the DVD5 works well)? The Wii read speed (I didn't chage it with wiikey config)?
I have a Wii Pal with Wiikey 1.9g
Thanks!!
Fabio
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blazen92
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7. February 2008 @ 10:36 |
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I haven't been paying attention to all latest wii stuff so can someone fill me in. Is there a NTSC U version of brawl out? What is this IGN beta leak.
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firefox13
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7. February 2008 @ 10:41 |
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Originally posted by blazen92:
I haven't been paying attention to all latest wii stuff so can someone fill me in. Is there a NTSC U version of brawl out? What is this IGN beta leak.
At least take a few minutes to try to read the thread. It is a discussion about the rip of SSBB (Japanese Version) on both a DVD5 (regular DVD) and a DVD9 (Dual Layer DVD). There is a ton of discussion on where to get these along with the precautions and procedures for burning and playing.
I don't know about the IGN Beta Leak as it hasn't been discussed here, but it doesn't really matter since someone was able to rip the full version, so there's not much reason to use a beta.
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Kuroishi
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7. February 2008 @ 10:50 |
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Originally posted by firefox13:
Originally posted by blazen92:
I haven't been paying attention to all latest wii stuff so can someone fill me in. Is there a NTSC U version of brawl out? What is this IGN beta leak.
At least take a few minutes to try to read the thread. It is a discussion about the rip of SSBB (Japanese Version) on both a DVD5 (regular DVD) and a DVD9 (Dual Layer DVD). There is a ton of discussion on where to get these along with the precautions and procedures for burning and playing.
I don't know about the IGN Beta Leak as it hasn't been discussed here, but it doesn't really matter since someone was able to rip the full version, so there's not much reason to use a beta.
That was what they called the fake that went up almost a month ago. Its actually a copy of Mario Strikers.
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LilNguyen
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7. February 2008 @ 11:04 |
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All credits go to rafadawn:
Gathered from different sources on the NET, here is a summary on how to run the DL SSBB Jap version on your Wiikey modded Wii:
1) Games of other regions different from our console don't usually run at all. This game, being japanese (NTSC-J), would need one of two things to ever run in either USA (NTSC-U) or Europe (PAL) Wii's:
a) To have multiregion support on your modchip and have it enabled (wiikey has it disabled by default, this can be set with the 1.3 or 1.2 configuration disc).
b) or, if you don't want to enable the multiregion support, then run regionfrii on the ISO before you burn it and set it to your region.
2) Games like this REQUIRE an update to run (more on this later). Without this update, it will not run. This update would bring your wii to 3.1 version of firmware and, perhaps, add a few non-important things. But if the update doesn't run (even if only til 15%), the game won't run.
3) When you let games of other regions run updates on your wii ... it MAY SCREW IT UP either completly (total brick), partially (semi-brick) or only add a few duplicate channels (not important and minor inconvenience).
4) The new Brick-Blocker (WBB 1.3R2) works now on the DL release however it stops the the game from runing the update, thus preventing you to run the upgrade of a game from another region inadvertenly and screwing your wii. But remeber point 2 -- This game REQUIRES running the update (even if only til 15%), so at some point you are going to need a copy of this game without brick-blocker on it. If you always brick-block everything, you'll never be able to play this game.
5) Since you must run the update in this disc, you have two options. But first, let me stress, that you SHOULD NOT DO ANY OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS I'M GOING TO MENTION unless your wii is already updated to the newest firmware revision of your region. For americans this would be 3.1u. For europeans 3.1e. For japanese this doesn't matter, as the game will upgrade to 3.1j if you let the full update run. If your wii's firmware is below 3.1 ... don't attempt to run this game with a non-japanese wii!!!!!!!!!!
6) From now on you should have your wii updated to 3.1 to continue. If not, update by connecting your wii to internet. If you can't connect, you could update by running games from YOUR region that carry the updates, such as Wii Chess (PAL) if you are in europe and not-sure-what-games if you are in the US (maybe Donkey Kong Jet Racer NTSC-U). So now you have a 3.1 version of your firmware and you can proceed.
7) These are the two options you have:
A) You put the DVD9 game in without using brick-blocker (using regionfrii'd if necessary, it never hurts to run regionfrii, so you can do it even if it's not necessary), boots and asks you to update, accept the update and let it finish. You are done. You won't have problems with this game again or have to do anything weird to run it. But, as a result, you will have duplicate news and weather channels in your non-japanese wii.
B) You really can't live with the duplicate channels and are willing to risk complicated procedures to run the game to avoid it. Fine. Then you need: one copy of the DVD5 disc not brickblocked anad the DL DVD9 SSMMB disc brickblocked. Then you do the following: put the non-brick-blocked DVD5 disc in. Accept the update but, when it's about 15% done (on the W letter of the word POWER), you unplug your wii. That's it, you don't need that disc anymore or do this again. From now on you start the game using the the DL brickblocked disc. (and just thinking how people were worried about using the Wiikey ... LOL).
All this you have to remember that if you don't have multiregion support enabled in your chip, all the discs from different regions (like this game) you want to try might first be run by the regionfrii program and it's region changed (set) to that of your country.
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voltrix
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7. February 2008 @ 11:20 |
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I was just wondering, if we get a Japanese update on a NTSC-U, would that effect future updates for US wiis? Like when we obtain the original copy when it comes out in March?
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asif500us
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7. February 2008 @ 11:42 |
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I have a japanese wii with firmware 2.0J. Do i have to update it online? i dont have online for wii... If i just burn the dual layer disc will it work? Also what size is the dual layer iso? is it 7.93gb?
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penguin98
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7. February 2008 @ 12:44 |
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Originally posted by voltrix:
I was just wondering, if we get a Japanese update on a NTSC-U, would that effect future updates for US wiis? Like when we obtain the original copy when it comes out in March?
It shouldnt. The update would probably be able to tell that we had been playing a japanese region game on a US wii, so it'd know the console was modded. But it couldnt tell if we were playing a backup or an import. And alot of people imported this game. If nintendo released an update that bricked anyone who had been playing an import or didnt let them play future games it'd be a PR disaster for them.
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dsab
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7. February 2008 @ 12:53 |
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Originally posted by penguin98:
Originally posted by voltrix:
I was just wondering, if we get a Japanese update on a NTSC-U, would that effect future updates for US wiis? Like when we obtain the original copy when it comes out in March?
It shouldnt. The update would probably be able to tell that we had been playing a japanese region game on a US wii, so it'd know the console was modded. But it couldnt tell if we were playing a backup or an import. And alot of people imported this game. If nintendo released an update that bricked anyone who had been playing an import or didnt let them play future games it'd be a PR disaster for them.
i hope your right cause this was my biggest fear in doing this 15% trick
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dervid18
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7. February 2008 @ 13:04 |
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i would just let it update. swapping is irritating. what is the big deal with the extra channels? i think they are ridiculous and hilarious! i lined them up to i have two columns of solid news and weather. and SERIOUSLY. does anyone really think they are going to use up all of their wii channel slots?? you can just put them at the very end if you don't want to see them. also, if you can play this you clearly have a modded wii and therefore probably don't buy virtual console stuff anyways since you can run emus.
David.
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ward646
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7. February 2008 @ 13:25 |
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Originally posted by dervid18:
.....since you can run emus.
Which is mostly illegal. Some people run mods for homebrew or even to play imports, granted MOST people here seem to be talking about a 'backup' hint hint, but there are people who maybe imported the game and don't want to hurt it or something.
For the record i'm modded and buy games from the shop channel.
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DNT5
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7. February 2008 @ 13:34 |
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Originally posted by ward646:
Some people run mods for homebrew or even to play imports, granted MOST people here seem to be talking about a 'backup' hint hint, but there are people who maybe imported the game and don't want to hurt it or something.
For the record i'm modded and buy games from the shop channel.
Which is also illegal. There's region protection on the Wii for a reason: Nintendo doesn't want people importing out-of-region games. Bypassing region-protection is against the law (in the United States, anyway.) It's the same story as DVDs.
In fact, simply possessing, purchasing, or selling a modchip is illegal in the United States, so don't think you're a saint.
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Joskun
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7. February 2008 @ 13:46 |
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Best way to get DVD9 to work is with the Swap trick.
I really didn't want to semi brick my wii and I took a chance and I'm glad my wii didn't brick. I already had my DVD5 working by the method of shutting off at 10-15% update. It loads perfectly on the game screen. I had no dual channel and I wanted to keep it that way :)
Then I got the DVD9 and it did not show up on the screen. Instead when I select the disc it prompted me to another update. Since I knew that Full UPDATE = Semi bricking+dual channel so I did the 10-15% again and it did NOT work because when I loaded the disc again it prompted me to the update again.
So I heard of the swap thing but I didn't know where to swap.
I tried loading up the DVD5 and after it's done loading, right at the part it shows the wiimote I took it out. It showed the white screen w/green writting then I put in DVD9. IT WORKS!
A way to check this is to go to the videos and they will play. Also the all cutscenes play!
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Ey3CoNz2
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7. February 2008 @ 14:31 |
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Originally posted by dervid18:
i am pretty sure i heard that some wiis lasers were just having trouble reading the discs and that nintendo was cleaning peoples lasers for them, although i wouldnt send them a modded cosole XD
I'll play i'll send you a pm. Sometimes I play with my bro online so I guess we'll meet online... hope to have a good match. Is 6:00pm Eastern Time good? Earlier than that is good too and I live in New York state Long Island (close to NYC)
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dsab
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7. February 2008 @ 15:34 |
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Well i have been following this thread for a while and finally have gotten around to burning both dvd5 and dvd9 versions. dvd5 with no brickblocker dvd9 with the new version of brickblocker, both regionfrii . I booted the dvd5 version did the 15% trick and then booted the dvd9 version. it boots fine (shows the wii safety screens) then asks me to do one of 2 options, i assume to create a save block. then after that i get what i think is an error message on a whitish/tan background with green japanese letters.
Does anyone know what this is or what i did wrong?
i have:
NTSC-U
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dervid18
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7. February 2008 @ 16:13 |
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make sure your disc read speed is set to 3x, i had problems as soon as i set it to 6x. also. what speed did you burn the dvd9 at? burn it super slow. i burnt a test copy at 2x and then the one i actually use at 1x. i have found that doing a bunch of stuff on my computer while burning can mess up a burn even if it says it succeeded. so make the burn yur only process if possible. that is the only advice i can offer other than just let your wii update with the dvd5 one all the way. i did that and everything works great. no swapping or anything.
David.
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dsab
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7. February 2008 @ 16:24 |
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i burnt both at 2.4 (slowest burner would go) so i dont know if the bun was the problem. so its not going to screw up my wii if i let the update run fully? i know about the dupe channels but that it? no brick/semi brick?
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dervid18
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7. February 2008 @ 16:32 |
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no. it is actually sort of funny what happened to e. i have the same setup as you. 1.9g wiikey on a us 3.1u wii. i was debating which to do and decided to let it update because i would rather have extra channels that risk semi-bricking my wii. i have only heard of people semi-bricking their wii doing the pull the plug trick. anyways. i was doing a lot of stuff on my computer and burned the dvd5 disc too fast so the update kept failing. literally giving me an update failed message. i was like crap. i thought my wii was messed. so then i tried the brickblocked dvd5 and that booted, making me think my wii had done the pull the plug trick on its own sort of. hoever, i had 3 of the 4 extra channels i was supposed to have gained if i let it complete so i tried reburning and that one worked, updated my wii and i can now play both dvd5 and dvd9 without swapping. all of my settings work perfectly too, including online play and checking for us updates (it checked for updates and told me i was up to date when i changed my internet)
so as far as i can tell, the only chance you have at messing your wii up is doing the pull the plug trick. it seems like a big gamble to me. you dont get four duplicate useless channels but you risk losing access to settings with is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to have!! lol so i would just let it update. as far as i have seen. people have only messed it up by pulling it out, or by pulling it out or updating when they didn't have their wii updated to 3.1u.
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