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Does anyone know how to recover files larger than 4gb from PS3 HDD?
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8. February 2008 @ 03:21 |
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Hello members of Afterdawn and PS3 enthusiasts! :-D
I have a problem in which I can not think of an answer. Even Playstation support were stumped. So I am hoping that someone knows an answer because God knows I can't think of one. Here is my problem...
I have a media file which is 4.62gb on my PS3 which I originally copied over from a DVD9. Now that DVD9 has decided to be corrupt. Anyway, I want to be able to recover that file so I can burn it again.
I read somewhere on here that the PS3 internal HDD used the NTFS file system, so I went and bought a 2.5" HDD enclosure thinking that this would be the easy solution... Wrong! :-(
I plugged the enclosure into my PC and it gave me nothing. So I thought let's see what Norton Partition Magic shows. It showed me an unformatted Hard Drive completely empty (40gb HDD with 40gb free space).
My conclusion is that the PS3 internal HDD uses a proprietary file system and Playstation support confirmed this. However, they wouldn't tell the name of this file system.
So... Does anyone out there know how I can retrieve a 4.62gb file from my PS3 HDD back to my PC so I can burn it again?
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SDF_GR
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8. February 2008 @ 06:38 |
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That might sound stupid and you have already tried it but you havent posted anything.
If you plug a FAT32 HDD larger than 4.62gb or a FlashDrive PS3 will let you copy the file to it.
FAT32 has 4gb limitation only with windows, if you can have access to a mac or a system that has linux or unix installed you'll be able to retrieve the file from the external drive.
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8. February 2008 @ 07:11 |
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Originally posted by SDF_GR:
That might sound stupid and you have already tried it but you havent posted anything.
If you plug a FAT32 HDD larger than 4.62gb or a FlashDrive PS3 will let you copy the file to it.
FAT32 has 4gb limitation only with windows, if you can have access to a mac or a system that has linux or unix installed you'll be able to retrieve the file from the external drive.
Fat32 has a 4gb limit full stop,regardless what you use.
Ryu have you tried Red Kawa File Server,im not sure if it will work ot not,not alot of people realise that you can put files bigger than 4gb on the PS3s harddrive,this is because the PS3s harddrive structure is NOT Fat32.
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8. February 2008 @ 07:29 |
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SDF_GR, marcusita is right. FAT32 has 4gb limit. That would have been the first thing I did if that wasn't the case and I wouldn't have needed to make this post. Thank you for your help anyway.
marcusita...
To be honest I haven't really learnt much about streaming as I don't really have the need. Well.... Now I might. :-P
I was under the impression that streaming only allowed you to view the media file through a media player that receives the stream.
Can you explain more to me on how I could transfer the file from my PS3 to my PC?
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8. February 2008 @ 07:49 |
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To be honest i dont know much about taking files from the PS3,i read more about Red Kawa File Server and i think its only for sending files to the PS3.
I do know however that i can stream files to my PS3 from WMP11 and copy them to the haddrive.
I will look more into it and let you know.
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8. February 2008 @ 08:02 |
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I dont think it is possible dude,i dont think you can access the PS3s harddrive,but im not sure.
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SDF_GR
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8. February 2008 @ 08:19 |
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Then the 80gb fat32 limit is only for windows, sorry my mistake,confused.
Ruy If you have the PS3 in an usb enclosure then just try it to unix based system to see what you get, just a though tho.
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8. February 2008 @ 08:25 |
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Yes, I thought so marc. As you know I don't usually ask for help here unless I have exhausted all other research options. Even Playstation support couldn't help me.
The PS3 uses it's own proprietary file system and is unrecognizable by Windows.
I tried the back-up utility and all that the PS3 does is copy a bunch of DAT files across. It seems that these are encrypted files that only the PS3 can decrypt. I know my media file is in those DAT files somewhere but until someone works out a way to decrypt those I might have to leave the file on my PS3 HDD and wait...
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8. February 2008 @ 08:25 |
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Originally posted by SDF_GR:
Then the 80gb fat32 limit is only for windows, sorry my mistake,confused.
Ruy If you have the PS3 in an usb enclosure then just try it to unix based system to see what you get, just a though tho.
What do you mean 80gb Fat32 limit.
Windows can at a maximum partition 32gb segments of Fat32,if you use software like Acronis i think the size of partition is unlimited,but still you can only add files of 4gb and below.
Maybe your getting file size and partition size mixed up.
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8. February 2008 @ 08:30 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Yes, I thought so. As you know I don't usually ask for help here unless I have exhausted all other research options. Even Playstation support couldn't help me.
The PS3 uses it's own proprietary file system and is unrecognizable by Windows.
I tried the back-up utility and all that the PS3 does is copy a bunch of DAT files across. It seems that these are encrypted files that only the PS3 can decrypt. I know my media file is in those DAT files somewhere but until someone works out a way to decrypt those I might have to leave the file on my PS3 HDD and wait...
I noticed you never ask for help you seem to be a really inteligent guy,i rarely ask either.
You were saying the original disc looks fine,can you not play it on either your PC or PS3,what happens when you put it in either system.
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8. February 2008 @ 08:52 |
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marc, I made the silly mistake of buying some cheaper DVD9 discs (ink jet printable). I transferred the file across to the PS3 before I printed on the disc. I deleted the original file from my PC thinking all was good as it was on my PS3 after all. After printing on the disc, when it gets to the second layer the data is corrupt.
It seems that they manufactured these discs with a very thin print canvass. So the ink has destroyed the second layer. :-(
I know it's not my printer or the ink as I have printed on at least 1000 other discs and have never had this problem.
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8. February 2008 @ 09:00 |
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Thats bad dude,i know there is software for extracting data of corrupt discs but i dont know if it would help in this case.
Have you tried making an iso of it and reburning it.
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SDF_GR
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8. February 2008 @ 09:35 |
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Originally posted by marcusita:
What do you mean 80gb Fat32 limit.
Windows, i have tested also, cause i have some spare ide disk's, i bought a external enclosure and i use it to PS3, the maximum partition that i got though vista disk management was 80gb, in fat 32 format.
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8. February 2008 @ 09:37 |
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Originally posted by SDF_GR:
Originally posted by marcusita:
What do you mean 80gb Fat32 limit.
Windows, i have tested also, cause i have some spare ide disk's, i bought a external enclosure and i use it to PS3, the maximum partition that i got though vista disk management was 80gb, in fat 32 format.
Try a stand alone partition tool,like Acronis.
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8. February 2008 @ 09:55 |
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Originally posted by marcusita:
Thats bad dude,i know there is software for extracting data of corrupt discs but i dont know if it would help in this case.
Have you tried making an iso of it and reburning it.
Yes, tried DVD decrypter. When it gets to the second layer, it just keeps giving read errors (and retries) and gets nowhere.
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8. February 2008 @ 10:52 |
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I've also tried demuxing the video stream straight from the disc. That didn't work either. I was hoping that the corrupt data packets were in the container headers but no luck there.
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14. February 2008 @ 13:56 |
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Ryu here is the deal, cause i know some people inside local sony service i've asked them about your prob and the answer was,
We cant take the data to a disc either.
They told me also that the guy on the phone didnt tell you the type of FS cause he probably didnt knew, it is forbidden too, but they were sure that he didnt knew anyway.
What service do in such cases is backup your data, with a similar way that you do through your PS3, and restore the data to another PS3 HDD.
Both told me wait till a hack comes out.
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14. February 2008 @ 16:51 |
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i have a hunch...
get hold of any lite or fat psp with a 8 gb mem stick and install 3.90 on it hacked or not it dont matter now connect it up via usb and if itll still let ya copy crapped up file to psp and with usb connect it to computer find it and reburn.
btw if this worked and you play online on cod4 go here and join my clan! www.freewebs.com/nextgen-ex
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15. February 2008 @ 02:44 |
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Originally posted by psplvanub:
i have a hunch...
get hold of any lite or fat psp with a 8 gb mem stick and install 3.90 on it hacked or not it dont matter now connect it up via usb and if itll still let ya copy crapped up file to psp and with usb connect it to computer find it and reburn.
btw if this worked and you play online on cod4 go here and join my clan! www.freewebs.com/nextgen-ex
A Memory Stick is formatted with the FAT file system so there is a 4gb limit for a single file. My file is 4.62gb... That is my problem. The file is larger than 4gb.... otherwise I would simply plug a hard drive into the USB port and drag and drop my file. The PS3 only supports external media with FAT/FAT16/FAT32 file systems.
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21. February 2008 @ 12:44 |
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You can try this solution if you already have another system
load any flavour of unix on that, create a NFS share and publish it for any any access. Remember NFS was originally designed to be accessed over the wire and not thru usb or IDE ports.
On your PS3 system mount/access the nfs share and copy the file to NFS share. NFS does not has any file size restriction limits so you should be good. NFS will run on top of UFS so you should be good.
There are multiple utilities in linux/unix available to do DVD write once its on a unix file system
Hope this works for you.
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21. February 2008 @ 18:22 |
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revised, it sounds like you know a lot more than I do about unix. I have no experience at all with this. I can tell you that Norton Partition Magic can detect linux formatted Hard Drives and when I plugged in my PS3 HDD via external HDD enclosure Norton showed me a empty unformatted drive.
Could you explain in a little more detail what you mean?
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25. February 2008 @ 14:15 |
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25. February 2008 @ 17:48 |
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Don't know if this will work and it will probably take some time if it does depending on you internet connection, but you can try to upload the file to the net from the ps3 browser. you can use http://www.nakido.com./ to host the file since they have no limitations on file size. then download it back on your pc.
i know you can upload photos from the ps3 browser so i can't see why this wouldn't work, and it would probably be a last resort if you have exhausted all other options since its pretty time consuming.
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25. February 2008 @ 18:13 |
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None of this will work as the PS3s harddrive cannot be accessed.
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25. February 2008 @ 19:15 |
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Hey guys, I haven't connected my PS3 to the net yet so I don't have any experience with this. Marcusita, can I ask why you say it wont work? NinReznor said that he has successfully uploaded photo's from his PS3, would it be different for video files? I wouldn't think so but in order for me to try it I would need tp purchase or borrow a router as I only have a USB modem. I would like to hear more about this procedure before I do that. :-D
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