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dvd shrink help
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bob-mitch
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30. December 2003 @ 09:04 |
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hi all
just started with dvd's have got dvd shrink +the guide the problem is that in the guide it shows various levels but in the program all i have is a ratio slide window which i can adjust by holding & sliding is this o.k. because i can only slide to the right which increases the ratio but lowers the total size of rip
may seem minor but would perfer conformation if poss
thanks in advance
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CyberLord
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30. December 2003 @ 09:17 |
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You're probably going to need to provide some system information before anyone can assist you. For instance what operating system are you running, what processor (Intel/AMD, speed), how much memory do you have, what version of DVD Shrink are you using.
I have run DVD Shrink on my Win98SE box, but I don't remember a slider. My options were little check circles.
CyberLord
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bob-mitch
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30. December 2003 @ 09:33 |
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sorry should have known
running a amd 2000 mhz
on a epoch raid board
matching 40g hdd
1gb 333 ddr ram
128 ddr geforce graphics
win xp pro with sp1a
dvd shrink 3.0 beta 5
while your here when you back up do i need to copy the "ifo"files that have been backed up by DVD Shrink cos there asscoiated with DVD Shrink progam
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Motomatt
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30. December 2003 @ 09:55 |
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The slider is in the new version of DVDshrink. It's just a option to manually select the compression of the DVD you are shrinking. You can either use "automatic compression" or manually select the compression with the slider. hope this helps
Matt
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Motomatt
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30. December 2003 @ 09:58 |
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Yes you need all of the files DVDshrink creates. I use Nero and it wont burn the DVD unless all the files needed to make the DVD work are there inside the VIDEO_TS folder
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bob-mitch
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30. December 2003 @ 10:14 |
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thanks motomatt
just found some online mpegs takes you through it step by step turns out i didn't open the reauthoring window for just movie still i needed to know why mine was different anyway does the slider work backwards as it seems to read from the opposite to what you would expect the more you move it right the higher the % is but the lager the movie
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Motomatt
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30. December 2003 @ 12:07 |
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My opinion is the newer versions are pretty confusing to someone that is new to the DVD ripping scene. I always rip the movie only.. If I want to watch the extra's I have the original. But I never do.. Most of the time I drag the main movie to a Re-author window then cut the credits and some of the begining movie garbage. By that time I dont need much compressing so I just hit auto.. I agree the slider bar is backwards. If I can help you with anything else just let me know.
Matt
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tstorch
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30. December 2003 @ 14:31 |
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dcrosby1
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30. December 2003 @ 15:04 |
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Im really new to all this, so forgive me if I am asking a "stupid" question.
I have used DVD Shrink to take the "movie" off the original DVD and then used Nero to burn it to a Maxell DVD-R 2x speed. Thing is, I bought a box of 10 at Walmart becuase I didnt want to invest in a load of DVD's until I knew how this worked. I was told by a guy at Office Depot that the Ritek brand is a really great brand and to get them from newegg.com for $1 a disk. Well, I need to know which ones to buy. There are the 1x and then there are the 1x, 4x. I have noticed that when I am burning in Nero, it states that the burn speed is 2x, but is that because of the type of Media I have or is it the minimum that I need to have? I dont want to buy a 50 pack of Ritek 1x if they are not going to work! Anyone have any advise for me?
BTW, the Ritek 1x,4x are out of stock and the 1x are not, so I guess that could be my 1st clue, but I wanted to be sure from someone who really knows!
Thanks in advance!
Donna
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Motomatt
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30. December 2003 @ 15:17 |
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The slower you burn a DVD the better. But i have heard different opinions on this. Some say if the media is "cheap" burn it slow. I have had varied results myself. I burned 5 movies on some memorex DVD-R's at 4X speed. they all worked fine until near the end of the movie which they froze,paused,skipped whatever the case. Then burned the same on Verbatim disks at the same speed and all worked like a champ. this is just my personal experience though. But slower is definatly better..
Matt
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Motomatt
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30. December 2003 @ 15:30 |
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Dcrosby1,
You can only burn the disk at its maximum rated speed and no faster. I would not get the 1x if it were my choice because of it being really really slow. If you are worried about them not working just try some Verbatims first, 5 or 10 pack and work your way down from there. DVD-R's are supposed to be the most compatable DVD's between most DVD players. In Nero you can adjust the speed you are burning at but your DVD burner and the type of DVD must supoport that speed. If it doesn't Nero will tell you so. I would buy small packs of DVD's at first just to make sure they are going to work in all your DVD players and what not. thats just me though.. I stick with verbatims, They are expensive but they have not failed me yet. hope this helps
Matt
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drchips
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30. December 2003 @ 18:03 |
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Hi all,
dcrosby1: listen to the voices of experience and only buy Top Quality media, at least until you have everything working just fine, then you can start experimenting with the cheap no-name stuff.
As for burning speed, here is a rule of thumb:
burn at HALF the SLOWEST RATED. e.g.
4 x drive and 4 x media == 2 x burn:
4 x drive and 2 x media == 1 x burn.
If possible avoid buying 1x rated media (unless they are from a very highly rated manufacturer) as they could be re-marked "B" grade or lower (didn't meet quality standards) OR they could be previous generation dye.
Have heard some good things AND some bad things about Ritek media (some overprints etc), but have only heard good things about BIG names like Verbatim, Maxell etc..
Another thing: LABELS are a NO-NO, unless you get everything exactly right, a complicated subject....
Motomatt: good advice, nice...
Have Fun...
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dcrosby1
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31. December 2003 @ 06:13 |
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What do you mean by labels being a No-No? Because when I copy my DVD's, I print a label from www.cdcovers.cc and use CD Stomp labels to place on the disc. Is this a bad thing? What do the labels have to do with the way the DVD will work (or not work)????
Thanks
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Motomatt
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31. December 2003 @ 07:20 |
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From my experience, the DVD's tend to get somewhat hot while inside the player. The ones I did started to peel up while spinning in the DVD player. I also used the CD stomper thingy. There is also a chance they get unbalanced while they spin and could possibly damage your player or recorder. CD covers are fine though.
Matt
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drchips
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31. December 2003 @ 07:29 |
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Hiya,
there are a number of issues with respect to putting full-face labels on DVD media, broadly listed thus (not an exhaustive list by any means).
1 - a dvd disk is (should be) an item manufactured to close tolerances, with particular attention paid to rotational balance (some dvd drives are rated @ 16x dvd, equivalent to 40+ in cd terms).
With a disk spinning that fast, perfect balance is IMPORTANT to minimise vibration.
Vibration, however small, can cause the outer edge of the disk to flutter at high rotational speeds.
This fluttering can cause mis-alignment of the laser with respect to the track it is attempting to follow & read (lateral & vertical mis-alignment).
The laser is designed to focus properly at a set and known distance from the lens, when the disk flutters that distance is constantly changing leading to increased occurence of errors.
So, the label MUST be PERFECTLY FLAT, with PERFECTLY even weight distribution and density, also taking into account any ink/printing put on the label prior to application.
The label MUST be PERFECTLY ALIGNED and PERFECTLY CIRCULAR.
2 - just like CD-R media, any damage to the top of the disk will result in errors.
Application of a label brings an adhesive into intimate and prolonged contact with that delicate surface.
If that surface is subject to a chemical attack from the adhesive, triggered by heat or other environmental agents, it may suffer damage.
When you use a dvd, it heats up to a greater or lesser degree.
Unless the co-efficient of expansion of the top layers of the disk and the label are the same, there will be thermally induced stress patterns applied to that delicate top surface, increasing the likelihood of errors.
Some, or even most of these negative effects can be reduced by careful consideration of the issues, planning ahead, correct application, GOOD quality media & labels.
Top Quality big name brands that have a PRINTABLE top surface are probably the most resistant to label associated errors, as the manufacturer has already put a protective layer over the normally delicate layer.
Top Quality labels from long established companies have a higher probability of correct manufacture (balance, density etc) and the adhesive is less likely to cause problems.
Large, correctly sized applicator mechanism that allows for NO label mis-alignment is a basic tool.
Printing on the label prior to application: try and distribute the ink load evenly on the label surface (ink does not weigh much, but even a tiny weight differential in the wrong place at high speed is problematic).
Best solution if you must have something pretty on the top is the CD Printer, available now for sensible money.
Once again, only use the correct inks (cheap inks might react badly), and leave the disk completely alone for a considerable time before handling (ink takes longer to dry on non-absorbant surfaces).
This post is too long already and I have really only scratched the surface (that was not meant as a pun, by the way), so I shall stop.
Hope that has assisted your understanding.
Have Fun...
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dcrosby1
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31. December 2003 @ 08:43 |
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Ok, well that definately sums it all up for me! I guess I dont need it to look pretty on the top, after all, these are just my backups!!
Could this be the reason why the dvd-r's that I have burned work in my el-cheapo dvd player and PS2 machine but not in my Panasonic dvd player?
I made a copy of Blade and it worked in the bedroom dvd player (el-cheapo), and then tried in the livingroom a few times with no luck, then it worked for my hubby, and again does not read the dvd when inserted into the Panasonic. What the heck??
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dcrosby1
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31. December 2003 @ 09:11 |
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Ok, now Im really confused and a little aggravated!
The dvd-r's that I have burned using Nero are playable in the el-cheapo dvd player and the ps2 machine, but will not play in my panasonic dvd player (it did once yesterday - was it a fluke?) and now when I go to put the disk into my computer's dvd-rom, it will not play it, recognize it, or open it. And a few times it has caused my computer to "restart", not lock up, but literally restart.
I am using DVD Shrink 103 and goto "re-author" and then "add movie segment" which I only pick the acutual move since I could care less about the menus and extras. Then it does its thing and I unusally only have to do a level one compression if at all in the "re-code" then it saves it to my computer and then I use Nero to burn it.
Am I doing something wrong???
PLEASE HELP!!
Donna
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Motomatt
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31. December 2003 @ 14:00 |
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You are not using the latest version of DVDShrink. The latest version is DVDshrink 3.0 Beta 5 which has not given me any trouble at all. Try a newer version so you are at least up to date. Also your DVD player wouldn't be a APEX would it? Also if you could tell me what model# Panasonic DVD player you have I can find out what DVD's it supports. hope this helps
Matt
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dcrosby1
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31. December 2003 @ 16:16 |
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the el-cheapo is Symphonic and they also play in the ps2 machine. The Panasonic I have is a dvd-rv32.
I have discovered what I was doing wrong and now I am able to have the dvd-r's work on all machines, but what I am seeing now is that the cheap dvd player and ps2 machine, the dvd-r's work perfectly, but in the panasonic, there is a lot of quality loss, like the blurring and jumping, etc. If it is good on 2 and not on one, is it the dvd-r or the player??
Thanks alot MotoMatt, you have helped alot!
Donna
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Motomatt
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31. December 2003 @ 16:42 |
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You should not have any quality loss. That would make me think it was your player not liking the DVD media you are using. But could be a number of things. I burned a few disks that played fine all the way to the end then started jumping and skipping. I burned them at 4X and tried some new media at the same time when I burned them. Turned out my machine just didn't like the media I was using. I will look up your DVD player and see what it likes/dislikes. Just to let you know how picky these things are I read a article that said a DVD will only play in 85% of machines that are out there.Sorta playing a odds game.. crazy..Here you go. It will play CDR,CDRW,DVD-R,DVD+R,DVD-RW,VCD,SVCD,MP3,WMA Hope this helps also here is a link for your player
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDname=panasonic+dvd-rv32.&Submit=Search&Search=Search
Matt
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dcrosby1
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1. January 2004 @ 02:28 |
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Matt,
Thanks for the info link. Its nice to know that there are people who are willing to help those who are completely CLUELESS!! I like to consider myself computer literate, but this is an entirely new ballgame for me.
When you say that my dvd player doesnt like the media, do you mean the particular brand of dvd-r that I am using? I have recently purchased a 50 pack of Ritek dvd-r's and waiting for them as we speak! A friend told us that they are excellent quality at a great price.
Before we were using dvdxonepro to turn our dvd's into mpeg and then burn them into 2 vcd's. There was some quality loss, and a few were pretty bad with the skipping, but for the most part it wasnt too bad to watch. Now that I have seen the quality of burning on a dvd-r, Im hooked. The vcd's were not supported on the Symphonic that we have or the ps2 machine, and we needed to use a special player in the laptop to watch them. Now these dvd-r's that we have burned are playable in all players that we have but the quality on our Panasonic dvd player is not that good! I can not understand why on the computer, laptop, ps2 and the Symphonic the dvd-r's play perfectly, but the Panasonic skip and jump!
Any thoughts? Could it be the dvd-r's? I have used Maxel 2x. I kind of thought that Maxel is a good quality.
Thanks again
Donna
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Motomatt
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1. January 2004 @ 06:05 |
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Donna,
Maxel's are the same disk's that I had the bad burns with. (all 10 of them skipped/jumped near the end) Try a different Brand media. hint hint (verbatim) just to see if this solves the problem with your Panasonic. There should be no quality loss.( a copy is a copy) Unless you Re-encode it then you lose quality.As for them playing in the other 2 machines perfect but not in the Panasonic you have to remember that 85% factor..You need to find a "happy media" for the panasonic, thats all. I would suggest a verbatim DVD+R or -R(i never had luck with -R's)So i stuck with what worked. I have heard alot of good things about the Ritek's also you should be fine.
You are burning with a slow speed with the latest software right?
Matt
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dcrosby1
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1. January 2004 @ 06:17 |
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Ive been burning them at 2x speed, that is what came up as default. Im also using Nero 6 (demo version).
I just put in a post asking if anyone knew where to get Nero 6 for less than the offical website is selling it for. I can get it on ebay for $60 plus shipping. I know on the website you pay $99 and get a code.
Is Nero 6 really worth it? I have Nero 5 on my other computer that came with the cd-rw drive but I dont know if that will work! Will it? Will it be as good?
Donna
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Motomatt
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1. January 2004 @ 06:35 |
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NERO is a really good program especially the new version. Thats what I am using it works great.
Matt
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mfurj
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1. January 2004 @ 10:47 |
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