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THX chief says war victory came too late for Blu-ray
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article published on 25 March, 2008
THX chief scientist Laurie Fincham has been quoted as saying that despite its victory over HD DVD, Blu-ray will not become the next standard in the home entertainment market.
"Personally, I think it's too late for Blu-ray. I think consumers will only become interested in replacing DVD when HD movies becomes available on flash memory. Do we really need another spinning format?" Fincham ... [ read the full article ]
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jookycola
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26. March 2008 @ 03:02 |
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But Jaussi, what if they make Flash reader devices that pretty much work like a dvd player?
You put he flash card in and hit play just like a dvd player. I think they could sell this now. put a movie on a 2 gig flash card and put it in a case the size of old audio cassette tapes. There would still be plenty of room for art work and the smaller size would allow for more room on your shelves.
Heck, it'd allow more room on store shelves too.
The future of movie rentals/sales would mean a small store only a quater of the size of a current Blockbuster filled with a back room of servers stacked with terrabytes of hdd storage. All the customer sees is are counertop kiosks. They pick a movie and it burns to a flash drive in minutes. To rent another one you have to plug the flash drive in and "return" the file.
obviously there are flaws in my idea but you get the idea. stores could save $$$ by not needing huge stores to display movies for rental.
this is the future.
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domie
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26. March 2008 @ 03:23 |
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If flash drives , memory stick type stuff etc is such a more attractive option than the optical disc format - why has absolutely nothing replaced the optical compact audio disc in over 20 years of advances in technology ?
As far as I know, it´s exactly the same as it was in 1986 and in that case we are only talking of replacing a disc with 700 mb of space so it has been possible for quite some time now.
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mattkind
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26. March 2008 @ 04:16 |
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Its always good to have a disk not a flash drive. In my country the internet speed is only 4 megabit so to download an HD movie is IMPOSIBLE. Its true that blu ray are a bit expensive but in my case i wait for some offer from www.play.com , like buy 3 and pay for 2
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SDF_GR
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26. March 2008 @ 05:25 |
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This will not happen for at least 10 years, company's need to sell players , TDK/Mitsubishi etc needs to sell disc's, Plextor,Nec,sony,Teac etc need to sell PC recorders/drives and Movie studios need to find a way to secure their content.
Unfortunately for me cause i always hated disc's, i think that will take some years.
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ematrix
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26. March 2008 @ 06:45 |
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Originally posted by c1c:
I see how HD movies on a flash card makes sense. But there is always something about having a physical disc. You have the artwork, the box, etc. Doesn't make sense to own a movie that is just a file on a card.
I'm also in favour of keeping movies in phisical media, and having them on flash cards is much more appealing to me than BR discs, indeed would be much easier to store and preserve them, and due to its compact size you could easily play them not only on your PC or on a dedicated stand alone player (if they make one eventually) but also on laptops and portable players. I also appreciate artwork and cases for the movies, but they can always use the same ones that Nintendo uses for their DS games.
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26. March 2008 @ 08:18 |
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Full blown digi distro is not happening for at least 10 years, BR can take over for DVD if it takes root, so far its not taken root.
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chubbyInc
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26. March 2008 @ 10:38 |
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I posted about a year ago about movies on SD chips. Or other flash memory. No one thought it would happen, everyone went on about how it would be too expensive...
About time, oh yeah and for those who argued against me on that.... Told you so!!!!
Blu-Ray is a horrible format, I shake my head whenever I see someone buy a standalone player. At least with the PS3 you can play games.
CDs, DVDs, Blu-Ray.... all crappy, scratch-able, anti-consumer friendly!
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26. March 2008 @ 11:03 |
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Originally posted by domie:
If flash drives , memory stick type stuff etc is such a more attractive option than the optical disc format - why has absolutely nothing replaced the optical compact audio disc in over 20 years of advances in technology ?
As far as I know, it´s exactly the same as it was in 1986 and in that case we are only talking of replacing a disc with 700 mb of space so it has been possible for quite some time now.
Ever heard of Amazon's on line downloadable music store, Apple's iTunes...?
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26. March 2008 @ 11:16 |
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hahaha, the funny thing about this, is that at least at some degree this is already happening, or how would you call itunes? in which you download your movies to a portable device, funny thing about this is that the MAFIA is already suffering because of the control that Apple has over them (at least in pricing) and now, they are still so blind, that they are going to fall into apple's game once again, when they get all the movie market for themselves
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26. March 2008 @ 11:31 |
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Originally posted by Gradical:
...the MAFIA is already suffering because of the control that Apple has over them (at least in pricing) and now, they are still so blind, that they are going to fall into apple's game once again, when they get all the movie market for themselves
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/13384.cfm
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BludRayne
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26. March 2008 @ 11:57 |
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Long live physical format! That's what shelf space is for.
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maryjayne
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26. March 2008 @ 13:13 |
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I dont plan on upgrading to Blu-ray until the dual format burners come down to about $150 in price.
I currently have a PC hooked up to my HDTV and DVD upscaling plus streaming movies is good enough for me. I defidently dont see Blu-Ray as becoming the next format of choice until the prices drop drastically (maybe around christmas?).
As for flash memory being the next big thing, I can see the potential if brick and mortar stores survive the digital download age. Currently a 16GB flash drive is about $35, which is about the price of a Blu-Ray disc. By the time brick and mortar stores would implement this type of rental I am sure the 32GB flash drive will be $35 and they can provide one with a membership to their store. I wouldnt mind getting a movie from a rental store on USB as long as it is still DVD quality (4GB-8GB).
Of course to get this rental idea underway, rental stores would have to convince the public to get PCs or some other USB reading/playing device hooked up to their main TV and they will have to convince movie studios to provide digital copies of their movies on release dates. Good luck with both.
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26. March 2008 @ 14:37 |
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like maryjayne said... even if usb would be easyer for stores it will never be mainstream because studios wont want to release their stuff on usb stick or anyother where it could be copied easyly.
Maybe they could if someone sold usb sticks dedicaded to movies so you could only see movie files and not files that are used for copy protection. Stick space is still expensive compared to disc so would you really want to buy sticks if you want to keep the movie? There is no way in h*ll they would let you copy it in other medias thats for sure.
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26. March 2008 @ 15:38 |
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Quote:
If flash drives , memory stick type stuff etc is such a more attractive option than the optical disc format - why has absolutely nothing replaced the optical compact audio disc in over 20 years of advances in technology ?
They call it an ipod.
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26. March 2008 @ 17:01 |
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Originally posted by c1c:
I see how HD movies on a flash card makes sense. But there is always something about having a physical disc. You have the artwork, the box, etc. Doesn't make sense to own a movie that is just a file on a card.
You could always include a high resolution .jpg or .png on the thumbdrive and just print it out. If its the case thats the problem you can get 200 slim jewel cases for like 20 bucks
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26. March 2008 @ 17:05 |
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Originally posted by plutonash:
Originally posted by c1c:
I see how HD movies on a flash card makes sense. But there is always something about having a physical disc. You have the artwork, the box, etc. Doesn't make sense to own a movie that is just a file on a card.
You could always include a high resolution .jpg or .png on the thumbdrive and just print it out. If its the case thats the problem you can get 200 slim jewel cases for like 20 bucks
Nah, I can't see these big movie studios, allowing their products to be moved around on USB disks or any other storage medium.
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26. March 2008 @ 17:28 |
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RIAA tried the same sh1t with CDs and look at what happened. The consumers dedicate the market most of the time. I still have no idea how BD won as its inferior and more expense then HD-DVD
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26. March 2008 @ 17:31 |
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Originally posted by plutonash:
I still have no idea how BD won as its inferior and more expense then HD-DVD
Dude, are you trying to start WWIII? I don't want to read anymore silly discussions about this.
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redchinee
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26. March 2008 @ 20:05 |
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this is stupid. a 128gb card will cost a fortune even in the future. it will be a long while before the price goes down. the price of blu ray will fall soon. companies will not allow their movies to be stored on flash drive.
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sgriesch
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26. March 2008 @ 21:33 |
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Originally posted by c1c:
I see how HD movies on a flash card makes sense. But there is always something about having a physical disc. You have the artwork, the box, etc. Doesn't make sense to own a movie that is just a file on a card.
Well, once your collection breaks 1000 DVD's, there becomes a space issue. I'd rather just have a file, pull it up on a computer, and play it on my TV. Computers have the capability to support HD quality. Also, downloading without the packaging and other cost makes it cheaper, and does not require much room to market the movie.
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esco600
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26. March 2008 @ 21:37 |
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I agree with her. though I understand wanting higher quality playback than DVD offers, I've always wondered to myself, "Why on another disc format?"
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26. March 2008 @ 23:42 |
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My vote was for flash media in the future.
But I don't think studios are ready to release movies on usb sticks quite yet....
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Cinnjerm
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27. March 2008 @ 02:40 |
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The premise of this seems pretty asinine if you ask me. Aside the fact that flash cards with even 50GB of space don't exist yet, let alone 128, even if they did and they were cheap, I'm sure movie studios would never go this rought simply because the likelyhood their movies would be pirated goes up substantially. Moreover, unless they innovate a new USB standard in the near future, It wouldn't even be practical from a time standpoint. Can you imagine waiting 20 to 30 minutes or more waiting on a 20GB movie download to a USB2.0 drive, and don't even get me started on multiple movies.
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27. March 2008 @ 04:39 |
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mmm thats why i said you must own a special video player, some like the blurayplayer, its like an xbox, but this one is specially for video, it has a hard drive, so you can store and transmit via WIFI to any computer registered to you, or any tv registered to you even better, you just come home, download it to your new kick ass Flshplay the newest technology in the market, it streams all of your media to all the tvsregistered to you (wink wink, DRM will never die!, and it'll never be crack/safe, ha Irony), and you have the future. Does it sound crazy to you, as WIFI has hit such an extensive market, you have WIFI addapters for your xbox360, or better else, this service is available to your 360 its called xboxlive, mmmmmmm, i just ponder if anyone will ever plan something like this???, o and its not like sony is planning something like this on teirh sonystore for ps3 (wink, wink)
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juankerr
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27. March 2008 @ 08:46 |
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This is pure speculation from a scientist at the THX Labs.
Now let a professional market analyst chime in:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080326/20080326005743.html?.v=1
http://www.strategyanalytics.net/default...tViewer&a0=3862
Blu-ray Disc Devices: Global Market Forecast
Strategy Analytics: As Format War Ends, 29 Million Blu-ray Homes Expected This Year
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The Blu-ray Disc victory in its recent format war with HD-DVD will propel this technology into 29.4 million homes worldwide by the end of 2008, according to the latest research published by the Strategy Analytics Connected Home Devices service. According to, ?Blu-ray Devices: Forecasting Sales and Ownership,? Sony?s PS3 games console will continue to drive the Blu-ray market until 2009, after which stand-alone Blu-ray players will become the dominant segment. By 2012 more than 132 million homes worldwide will own at least one Blu-ray device.
?HD-DVD?s withdrawal leaves the way open for Blu-ray to become a major revenue earner for technology vendors and content owners alike,? says David Mercer, Principal Analyst. ?The 265 million homes that will own an HDTV by 2012, and Hollywood?s need for a new growth engine, represent huge incentives for the industry to coordinate marketing activities and demonstrate unified support for the successor to DVD.?
This Strategy Analytics report predicts that global sales of Blu-ray devices will reach 18.8 million units in 2008, including 4 million stand-alone players, 13 million consoles and nearly 2 million PCs. By 2012, annual sales of all BD devices will reach 57.4 million units. The largest market will be in Europe, with 26.4 million, followed by the US (22.6 million) and Japan (8.4 million).
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