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CawkFour
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29. October 2008 @ 18:39 |
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Originally posted by Donaldo:
hey guys... i'm new to xbox360 but just got my modded console back from cumberland mods... its working great and my games are playing fine.
but now i'm very concerned about getting banned off xbox live. i didn't know that most games ability to save depending on logging into your profile...
so if i get banned i won't have any way to save my progress in most games ?? even though i have a harddrive and a memory card?? is that really true !! ?? !!
where in the world did you get that from?
your gamerscore saves to your profile.
your gamesaves save to your hard drive or memory unit.
if you get banned... your console gets banned and not your profile (from what i've read. i don't know for sure).
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29. October 2008 @ 18:45 |
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Originally posted by Donaldo:
hey guys... i'm new to xbox360 but just got my modded console back from cumberland mods... its working great and my games are playing fine.
but now i'm very concerned about getting banned off xbox live. i didn't know that most games ability to save depending on logging into your profile...
so if i get banned i won't have any way to save my progress in most games ?? even though i have a harddrive and a memory card?? is that really true !! ?? !!
Make an offline account for games you don't need to play on live. Even if you do get banned from live though, it shouldn't affect your game saves and all of that on your live gamertag, you just won't be able to log on to live anymore.
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29. October 2008 @ 18:47 |
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Originally posted by Donaldo:
hey guys... i'm new to xbox360 but just got my modded console back from cumberland mods... its working great and my games are playing fine.
but now i'm very concerned about getting banned off xbox live. i didn't know that most games ability to save depending on logging into your profile...
so if i get banned i won't have any way to save my progress in most games ?? even though i have a harddrive and a memory card?? is that really true !! ?? !!
what are you talking about? being banned from live will no way stop you from saving your games. your profile doesnt get banned, the console does so you will still be able to sign into your gamer tag, you just wont be able to do anything online.
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Donaldo
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29. October 2008 @ 19:05 |
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hey guys please dont jump down my back this is my first day actually playing my xbox360 !!
but thanks for the clarification it makes more sense to me now and i will look into creating an offline profile ... i think that is really a good idea cause i'm not even interested in playing live with anybody else...
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CawkFour
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29. October 2008 @ 19:13 |
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Originally posted by Donaldo:
hey guys please dont jump down my back this is my first day actually playing my xbox360 !!
but thanks for the clarification it makes more sense to me now and i will look into creating an offline profile ... i think that is really a good idea cause i'm not even interested in playing live with anybody else...
nobody is jumpin down your back. congrats on the new 360 life. we were just wondering where you got that info from.
you don't have to create an offline profile. you just need to create one. like we said... if your box gets banned... you can still use your profile on your box (offline now) or on a new box with live.
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29. October 2008 @ 20:20 |
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Originally posted by Donaldo:
hey guys... i'm new to xbox360 but just got my modded console back from cumberland mods... its working great and my games are playing fine.
but now i'm very concerned about getting banned off xbox live. i didn't know that most games ability to save depending on logging into your profile...
so if i get banned i won't have any way to save my progress in most games ?? even though i have a harddrive and a memory card?? is that really true !! ?? !!
Huh no. you just wont be able connect to live. anything associated with the live service Online gameplay, and some of the XBox originals downloaded thru live will no longer work.
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29. October 2008 @ 20:29 |
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Any gamesaves which were made while using dlc most likely become corrupt.
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EvilDeeds
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29. October 2008 @ 20:32 |
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It's probably clearer setting it out like this:
- A ban is for the xbox hardware only, so the xbox system itself is not allowed onto live, your profile is fine.
- If you get banned, just put your HD in another xbox and your profile, online play and save games will work perfectly, exactly like before
- A ban does not affect your saves, or your profile - they are not in the xbox itself, they are on a memory card or HD.
Downloaded content is a slightly different issue as I think it's DRM'd, as far as I know paid for xbox originals, arcade games and other dlc can be used on other machines, but only by your profile - and I think it needs to be re-downloaded through the new xbox hardware (even if the game is stored on the hd from the old xbox already, probably to re-register it or something). I might be making that up - but when my xbox red ringed a year or two ago I remember having to do something like this for Frogger and some themes. Before then my wife could play frogger on her profile even though it was bought through mine, but after I got the refurb box (different hardware) she couldn't play the game in her profile without me redownloading it... very weird.
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hubbabuu
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31. October 2008 @ 07:42 |
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I recently tried a backup of Far Cry 2 on my machine because my pre-order hadn't arrived and played it for a short while. Later I noticed the particular release I used has been nuked for "AnyDVD style video corruption". Afterwards I have been playing with my retail copy.
I wasn't logged in Live then and hasn't been since. Should I be worried? Is there anything I can do to prevent possible ban when I plug my xbox360 into Live? I'd like to buy Megaman 9 from Live Marketplace..
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31. October 2008 @ 12:10 |
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Has i said before clear your cache, it will improve your chances of not getting banned greatly but not certainly. A modded console isn't always used for illegal activity when using a modded xbox don't break the eula.
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misstah
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7. November 2008 @ 13:15 |
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A friend got her xbox banned, the only way to get it reinstated was to send the console off to Microsoft so they could 'fix' it for £65!
I have many times had my memory card with my gamer profile on it playing on the that xbox just prior to it being banned. It does not affect your profile, just the Xbox.
I have two xbox's one modded but NEVER connected to live, the other connected to live. Never had a problem yet! As the modded one is for the kids (they scratch discs like you wouldn't believe) i dont use it that often.
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EvilDeeds
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7. November 2008 @ 13:28 |
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I have two xbox's one modded but NEVER connected to live, the other connected to live. Never had a problem yet! As the modded one is for the kids (they scratch discs like you wouldn't believe) i dont use it that often.
That amuses me, I know you probably have your reasons (so this isn't aimed at mocking you or anything), but I always wonder what's the point in having a modded that never connect's to Live, just incase it gets banned off Live? lol.. it's not like they red-ring the box when mod's are detected! :)
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7. November 2008 @ 14:01 |
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Originally posted by AtiLaw:
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I have two xbox's one modded but NEVER connected to live, the other connected to live. Never had a problem yet! As the modded one is for the kids (they scratch discs like you wouldn't believe) i dont use it that often.
That amuses me, I know you probably have your reasons (so this isn't aimed at mocking you or anything), but I always wonder what's the point in having a modded that never connect's to Live, just incase it gets banned off Live? lol.. it's not like they red-ring the box when mod's are detected! :)
Yeap, but look at it this way; his Xbox with live dies(common problem now days), he can always flash the modded one with the original firmware and get online...something he would not be able to do if the console is banned!!
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7. November 2008 @ 14:25 |
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Originally posted by slayer700:
Originally posted by AtiLaw:
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I have two xbox's one modded but NEVER connected to live, the other connected to live. Never had a problem yet! As the modded one is for the kids (they scratch discs like you wouldn't believe) i dont use it that often.
That amuses me, I know you probably have your reasons (so this isn't aimed at mocking you or anything), but I always wonder what's the point in having a modded that never connect's to Live, just incase it gets banned off Live? lol.. it's not like they red-ring the box when mod's are detected! :)
Yeap, but look at it this way; his Xbox with live dies(common problem now days), he can always flash the modded one with the original firmware and get online...something he would not be able to do if the console is banned!!
flashing back to the original FW will do absolutely nothing for you, as it will still report all the games you played, and will end up leading to a banning, so you might as well just leave it flashed if anything like that ever does happen.
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shik1
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7. November 2008 @ 22:24 |
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i have a modded console and a non modded one. if i play a game thats not out yet (leaked.. e.g. cod5) and rack up acheivements and save games...then put the hardrive on my non modded machine and connect to live will microsoft ban me ? do they look at evidence like that? or only flag dodgy discs and flashed drives? will they ban me for having acheivements and save games for a game that is not out yet?
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8. November 2008 @ 01:22 |
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If you where connected to live at the time of the achievements then yes. If not then maybe, more than likely yes. as your achievements are added to your gamerscore upon connection to live.
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EvilDeeds
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8. November 2008 @ 05:36 |
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Originally posted by shik1:
i have a modded console and a non modded one. if i play a game thats not out yet (leaked.. e.g. cod5) and rack up acheivements and save games...then put the hardrive on my non modded machine and connect to live will microsoft ban me ? do they look at evidence like that? or only flag dodgy discs and flashed drives? will they ban me for having acheivements and save games for a game that is not out yet?
Nobody knows for sure how they detect it, but they would be very dumb not to detect something as obvious as that. Easiest way is to disconnect your modded machine from live, play your game with the system time set forward to day before release day (some preorders arrive days early) - then on day of release you can always pop your harddrive into a live connected system... also, with leaked-releases you never know if the game is a final version, or a signed demo copy or something - so you will never really be safe playing leaked versions as they could also be logging the disk versions along with achievements... just cos they don't show it on screen doesn't mean they don't store it.
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8. November 2008 @ 19:08 |
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What is better to use for the 360 firmware for benq if i want to go online with xbox live. The stealth or non-stealth firmware?
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19. November 2008 @ 02:45 |
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Originally posted by xeonox:
What is better to use for the 360 firmware for benq if i want to go online with xbox live. The stealth or non-stealth firmware?
Well as you asked above...it is somewhat obvious that the non-stealth fw is Not Stealthed and the Stealthed fw is...So to answer your question if you want to go on live and risk the chance of your console being banned use the Stealth fw
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GodMan114
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19. November 2008 @ 13:03 |
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Originally posted by popeshag:
Originally posted by xeonox:
What is better to use for the 360 firmware for benq if i want to go online with xbox live. The stealth or non-stealth firmware?
Well as you asked above...it is somewhat obvious that the non-stealth fw is Not Stealthed and the Stealthed fw is...So to answer your question if you want to go on live and risk the chance of your console being banned use the Stealth fw
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From your wording I take it that the Stealth is risky?? The word stealth doesn't fit the bill then.
Could you be more specific, please?
Stealth = Safe or Unsafe
Non-stealth = Safe or Unsafe
What's the difference anyway... Why should one even choose the unsafe one?
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19. November 2008 @ 20:28 |
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Originally posted by GodMan114:
Originally posted by popeshag:
Originally posted by xeonox:
What is better to use for the 360 firmware for benq if i want to go online with xbox live. The stealth or non-stealth firmware?
Well as you asked above...it is somewhat obvious that the non-stealth fw is Not Stealthed and the Stealthed fw is...So to answer your question if you want to go on live and risk the chance of your console being banned use the Stealth fw
Dashboard Updated tomorrow!
From your wording I take it that the Stealth is risky?? The word stealth doesn't fit the bill then.
Could you be more specific, please?
Stealth = Safe or Unsafe
Non-stealth = Safe or Unsafe
What's the difference anyway... Why should one even choose the unsafe one?
Thanks.
Stealth = Safe for live use
Non-stealth = Unsafe for live use
the only reason you would want the non stealth is if your console has already been banned and at that point there would be no reason in having a stealth fw on an xbox live dead (a 360 that cant connect to xbox live) console
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GodMan114
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19. November 2008 @ 20:47 |
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^Thanks for the info. I was just wondering why there was a non-stealth. I guess the stealth wouldn't work on a banned console then. I hope I don't have to deal with it ever. :)
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20. November 2008 @ 07:00 |
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Originally posted by GodMan114:
^Thanks for the info. I was just wondering why there was a non-stealth. I guess the stealth wouldn't work on a banned console then. I hope I don't have to deal with it ever. :)
no the stealth will work on a banned xbox but what would be the point...the whole reason for stealth is to help keep your drive and backups somewhat hidded from M$
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EvilDeeds
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20. November 2008 @ 07:19 |
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It's probably easier describing like this: First there was the mod, and it was awesome - but then m$ realised they could detect this mod because the mod didn't hide the fact the game wasn't an original - it just said "yeah, you can play it" to the xbox. In response to bannings the modders came up with a better version of the mod which is the stealth mod, which at least tries to hide the fact it's not an original disk by saying "yeah, you can play it, honest gov, it's alright!". ;)
If you are banned, there is no point in worrying about what version of the mod to use - but if you aren't banned and want to make it a little harder for m$ to ban you, stealth is the way to go.
Obviously, the above description is dumbed down to the point of being complete cr*p - but still... shows a history to the naming.
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Lorthos
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10. April 2009 @ 13:39 |
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i know this is a old thread but i figured it deserved a update. i have been extensively monitoring and testing with 2 xbox one modded one not.. i cannot seem to find any packets of information going out about previous games played offline (disconnected from network) That the xbox sends out after being connected to live. i am using a dual homed pc with etherpeak and various other tools running as well as a softwall that captures. can anyone confirm or deny if that information is retained and or sent. if so how much and if there is anything that can be done to circumvent it?
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