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Sony wants 50 percent market share for Blu-ray products this year

article published on 7 April, 2008

President of Sony Corporation and CEO of Sony's Global Electronics Business, Ryoji Chubachi, has spoken of the corporation's plan to increase the market share of its Blu-ray Disc products dramatically. In the present, the DVD format accounts for about 80 percent of global demand for movie discs, according to Chubachi. The Sony boss said that the company will offer Blu-ray devices in a ... [ read the full article ]

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eatsushi
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8. April 2008 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nobrainer:
the thing is all current standalone blu-ray players are profile 1.0 and still new hardware releases are being shipped profile 1.0
Absolutely incorrect.

Currently (or shortly) available BluRay standalones that are Profile 1.1:
Panasonic DMP-BD30
Denon DVD-3800BD
Denon DVD-2500BT
LG BH200 (Dual Format)
Philips BDP-7200 (April 08)
Pioneer BDP-05FD (Spring 08)
Samsung BD-UP5000 (Dual Format)

Other announced models coming this year from Panasonic, Sony, Sharp, Samsung etc are all 1.1 or 2.0.

Get your facts straight.

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8. April 2008 @ 15:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Absolutely incorrect.

(or shortly) available

(April 08)
(Spring 08)

Other announced models coming this year from Panasonic, Sony, Sharp, Samsung etc are all 1.1 or 2.0.

Get your facts straight.
i see, coming..... how many profile 2.0 players that are future proof unlike profile 1.0 are available now?

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eatsushi
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8. April 2008 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nobrainer:

i see, coming..... how many profile 2.0 players that are future proof unlike profile 1.0 are available now?
Let me quote your incorrect statement again:

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the thing is all current standalone blu-ray players are profile 1.0
I have a Panasonic BD30 which is Profile 1.1.

Many users already have the 1.1 models from Denon, LG and Samsung.

Your statement is still incorrect.
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8. April 2008 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
50%.. don't make me laugh. They don't actually have 2% in reality.

They may be shipping this overpriced drm filled rubbish to wholesalers, but it is sitting on the shelves afterwards. We can't even sell BD at £10 because it seems like nobody in our town has a player.

They had 100% with umd and minidisk.. you don't see those very often either.

Word for people.. What a business "wants" is always different to what they get. Sony may be blowing the same BS as usual about how great their marketing is, but lets be brutal for a minute.. They will be very lucky to turn any kind of profit on this technology before the end of the silver disk era. Most people given a chioce of what to spend £200 on are opting for standalone dvd recorders to replace vcr machines.
Not everybody has the luxury of being able to afford watch anytime cable/satellite packages, and in some places they aren't available.

The once only disk is at the end of it's life.. dvd is popular because the hardware is cheap, the disks are cheap and the content is already available. I don't think anybody is stupid enough to be fooled into buying a £800 tv and £300 player just to watch a BD only release...
No.. people on the streets in general have seen through all this smoke and mirrors and would buy a car or a washing machine first.

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8. April 2008 @ 15:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nobrainer:

i see, coming..... how many profile 2.0 players that are future proof unlike profile 1.0 are available now?
Are you at least going to correct your statement or at least issue a retraction?
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8. April 2008 @ 15:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why should he? I think this is yet another totally pointless pie in the sky non-news item about nothing in particular..

The BD fanboys obviously need their fix of sony otherwise they have nothing to spout on and on and on about.

Sony make (or at least one time they made) good hardware. For everything else they are monopolistic shysters!
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8. April 2008 @ 15:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by varnull:
Why should he?
He should because his statement was incorrect as I pointed out.

He shouldn't expect to spout out incorrect statements here without being called out on them.
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Yes this thread is Very Interesting Indeed
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Originally posted by varnull:
Why should he?
Originally posted by eatsushi:
He should because his statement was incorrect as I pointed out.

He shouldn't expect to spout out incorrect statements here without being called out on them.

I'm with you eatsushi & the mod, his sig says it all. Bash, bash, bash and then when corrected not a peep or on to something else.

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Go get'em Varnull, whoohoo.
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How many new upcomming High Def DVD are going to work on your HD-DVD player. Thats what I thought. Sore losers are easy to pick out and wine the longest. So much crap on this thread that I dont remember what the story was about. We know it was not about hd-dvd.
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9. April 2008 @ 01:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by varnull:
The BD fanboys obviously need their fix of sony otherwise they have nothing to spout on and on and on about.

Originally posted by DXR88:
Yes this thread is Very Interesting Indeed ...
Oh! SOOO-NEEEEE ..... WE Are Not WorthEEEE... To KNEEEEL At Your BLOOO-Ray FEEEEET...




Yummy! [Schrlurppp..] Blooooooo-Ray .... [Ummmmm.... Munch, munch]. :-D
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9. April 2008 @ 01:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It sure is easy to spot the diehard sony fan boys. One thing is for sure, sony does have a diehard but tiny drm-ray base. I do agree that if drm-ray players, and media, drop into the reasonable price range for average consumers, they'll do it. They will no doubt get more market share when compared to dvd. I think 50% market share by the end of 2008 is extremely optimistic, bordering on delusions of grandeur. But who knows, I guess we'll find out in a few months.
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Originally posted by varnull:
I think this is yet another totally pointless pie in the sky non-news item about nothing in particular..!
I know it's difficult for some people to accept that Sony actually won a format battle. However, it isn't up to us to chose what news items are put out on AD. You can petition the staff to please avoid reporting on anything remotely positive for BluRay but i think it would be futile.

Or you can just ignore anything that says BluRay in the thread title.

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The Sony boss said that the company will offer Blu-ray devices in a wider range of products as part of an effort to increase the global market share of its Blu-ray products from 20 percent to 50 percent, and all of this by the end of 2008.
Global market share of 50% is still several years off IMO. However, Japan is another thing. BluRay already owns 20% of the recorder base in Japan so this may not be far off for the Japanese market.

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this can happen if a few things are addressed first

1.price

2.more of the back catalog movies

3.the total disaperence of DVD

4.sony can put a ps3 in evrey home

5.strike deals with cable companys to give away free blu-ray players

6.blu-ray must be cracked so it can be bootlegged bootlegging sells players not many movie though,but if people can go down town and buy the movie off the stande then they will i remember when DVD got cracked it sold the shit out of players.not to say that its right to do this but it works and players get sold.and in time when DVD is gone and BLUE-RAY price comes down many will already own the hardware and now ready to buy the much cheaper software from a store.so in the end the DRM must be cracked for this to really take off the way sony want it to.its a double edge sword
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If they really wanted this they'd drop the price down to where in-spec players weren't $399.
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well fro what i have read in the past and also seen on the bbc news months and months ago,sony paid off disney in the battle between blue ray DVD and HD DVD and a further 2 manufacturers,and now they want 50% of all the sales?? hummmm
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Quote:
Originally posted by varnull:
The BD fanboys obviously need their fix of sony otherwise they have nothing to spout on and on and on about.

Originally posted by DXR88:
Yes this thread is Very Interesting Indeed ...
Oh! SOOO-NEEEEE ..... WE Are Not WorthEEEE... To KNEEEEL At Your BLOOO-Ray FEEEEET...




Yummy! [Schrlurppp..] Blooooooo-Ray .... [Ummmmm.... Munch, munch]. :-D
Whats that supposed To Mean, im sorry My tiny Fanboy Brain Can not Decrypt its hidden meaning.

Now kindly look into the Ring.




And Feel are Wrath MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Good to see that Sony going to make more of a impact in the market share by doing other things.I'm very happy with my two BD players a easy upgrade over DVD with no issue with DRM or BD+ like some people claimed.Weather people like it or not HD is going to be mainstream so get use to it thats the way the world works.I'm sorry people like to stay stuck in the caveman days but the world evolve everyday.Blame the world not a company thats trying to make a product to enhance people viewing quality.
I couldnt agree more.

No one is disputing that HD will be a standard eventually. NO ONE.

The arguments are that Sony's B.S. monopoly with Blu-ray and the fact that it's an old, antiqueted spinning disc format will probably not be long lived. Sure, BD discs look great but the hefty price increase for media and even more for the hardware is not that significant for the (in my almighty opinion) 'to-be short-lived' new technology. I'm betting that BD is a waste. I, like many many many others I'm sure am not going to participate in BD unless prices drop like rocks to that of Standard DVD.............OR LOWER.
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9. April 2008 @ 16:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dual format anyone?
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9. April 2008 @ 16:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Dual format anyone?
Yes. Regular DVD AND BluRay will coexist for a long time.
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Yea, I was waiting for robotech to reply to that one...
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
Yea, I was waiting for robotech to reply to that one...

Oh..........I'm here amigo. Dual format is the way of the future right?????

HD-DVD and BD are a marriage made in heaven..................and Heaven is called "LG"
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/aieeeeee




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Oh! SOOO-NEEEEE ..... WE Are Not WorthEEEE... To KNEEEEL At Your BLOOO-Ray FEEEEET...
Yummy! [Schrlurppp..] Blooooooo-Ray .... [Ummmmm.... Munch, munch]. :-D
Originally posted by DXR88:
Whats that supposed To Mean, im sorry My tiny Fanboy Brain Can not Decrypt its hidden meaning.
The friendly, (apparently-benign) image contains secret drms developed by SooooNeeee Drones, to 'Lure You Over To The Dark Side, Luke'. (I wouldn't stare at the pic too long....you can never tell what will happen).

One day, SOO-NEEE will rule the planet, and we will ALL be humbly kneeling before our New God.

(Actually, I was just poking fun at all the sometimes intense, fanatically-supportive folks who eat, sleep, and dream of all things Bloooooo.)

Like-'em-or-lump-'em; love-'em-or-leave-'em; for better or for worse, SOOO-NEEE bought it's way out of the format-war, ($400 mil +) and if you want an HD disc, it's gonna be Blooooo in colour whether ya likes it or not.

Didn't "they" tell you, DXR88, ...




"The whole world's going Bloooooooo-eeeeeeee...."

-- (Chief Blue Meanie, Beatles, Yellow Submarine)
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