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Sony shows PS3 production costs are dropping
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article published on 14 May, 2008
Sony has reported that the PlayStation 3 is seeing gradually declining production costs and growing popularity of the console has led to a strong improvement on the company's balance sheet. Sony also noted that the company shipped about 37 million game consoles and more than 267 million games during the year.
Sony's "PlayStation" unit posted a $1.2 billion USD loss for the year, an improvement ... [ read the full article ]
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milkyoreo
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14. May 2008 @ 19:09 |
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The PS3 is doing well, I still have to buy one, but saving money is hard for me.. I still have a PS2, cant wait for my PS3. The only thing that is stopping me from getting an Xbox 360 is that I don't want to pay for online play, and I don't like the controller.
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varnull
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14. May 2008 @ 19:12 |
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Blah blah blah... as with everything.. the longer you make it the cheaper it becomes to manufacture (unless you are making high end tube amps with rare and specially sourced/made dwindling component supplies)
Why is this even news? It should be in the "state the bleedin obvious" section!
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14. May 2008 @ 21:02 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
Blah blah blah... as with everything.. the longer you make it the cheaper it becomes to manufacture (unless you are making high end tube amps with rare and specially sourced/made dwindling component supplies)
Why is this even news? It should be in the "state the bleedin obvious" section!
wow...quite some hostility. I think the article is great news. Lower production costs means that Sony will probably be able to have more price cuts.
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14. May 2008 @ 21:18 |
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Sweet, maybe they will drop prices.
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14. May 2008 @ 22:00 |
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Now if only they can get some kick ass games for it to be worth shelling out 400 bucks for..
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14. May 2008 @ 22:02 |
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No i dont think so.
If they where going to drop tag the console would already be 200.00 which it isn't
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varnull
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14. May 2008 @ 22:09 |
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14. May 2008 @ 22:28 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
That's awesome! I gotta take that!!
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15. May 2008 @ 02:12 |
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Even though I'm a huge Xbox 360 supporter, I must say Sony seems to be more willing to drop prices to a reasonable point, especially with what you're getting out of the PS3 (such as Blu-ray drive, larger Hard Drive, WiFi etc). My only gripe with Sony is the lack of games and constant-constant delays of some of it's big hitters. It makes you wonder if the whole PS3's life cycle will be delay after delay. This is great news for us gamers beleive it or not, because the less cost to Sony, leads to the odds of the PS3's price being reduced greater, just to stay competitive against the Wii and 360. But it's still an operating loss of 1.2 billion for Sony which isn't good.
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15. May 2008 @ 04:04 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
Now if only they can get some kick ass games for it to be worth shelling out 400 bucks for..
And thats just the 40GB. i'm wishing for the same.
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15. May 2008 @ 11:08 |
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Give it time and they will drop the ps3 and release the ps4 to get a head start on the industry. They will never make up for the loss of production the ps3 has created.
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Paladore
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15. May 2008 @ 11:21 |
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I love my xbox 360 and am happy with my wii. To be honest i never really considered getting a ps3 because most of the good games out there minus a few are available on xbox but if the ps3 goes down to like $300-350 canadian i'll pick one up next year when God of War 3 comes out :)
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15. May 2008 @ 12:20 |
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yep they achieved this by removing backwards compatibility in the european model, then removing it from the american model, then cancelling all backwards compatibility fixes saving on wages for the debuggers, they also decided to inflate the prices of their first party games & sell old titles via the psn at extortionate rates and sell add-ons for unfinished titles like motostorm & fully working ps2 games but only if you purchase them again!
they also sacked a huge proportion of the gaming workforce and then got foxconn to manufacturer the PS3 if you don't know who foxconn are they are the ppl that were spread all over the UK papers for using sweatshop type slavery. Oh and lets not forget global price fixing.
and i can w8 to see all the revenue from the sale of content in sony's "Home" and from selling all PS3 user details to advertising agencies.
Seeking to lift ad dollars, Sony to track user data
Reports on Chinese iPod Sweatshop Suppressed Foxconn
Sony Hints At Downloadable PS2 Games On PS3
Sony really knows how to screw its customers
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15. May 2008 @ 13:12 |
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
yep they achieved this by removing backwards compatibility in the european model, then removing it from the american model, then cancelling all backwards compatibility fixes saving on wages for the debuggers, they also decided to inflate the prices of their first party games & sell old titles via the psn at extortionate rates and sell add-ons for unfinished titles like motostorm & fully working ps2 games but only if you purchase them again!
they also sacked a huge proportion of the gaming workforce and then got foxconn to manufacturer the PS3 if you don't know who foxconn are they are the ppl that were spread all over the UK papers for using sweatshop type slavery. Oh and lets not forget global price fixing.
and i can w8 to see all the revenue from the sale of content in sony's "Home" and from selling all PS3 user details to advertising agencies.
Seeking to lift ad dollars, Sony to track user data
Reports on Chinese iPod Sweatshop Suppressed Foxconn
Sony Hints At Downloadable PS2 Games On PS3
Sony really knows how to screw its customers
Damn you NEVER can just let ANY good Sony news or info go without saying some BS can you? FFS not every thing is "hate Sony" to everyone. You REALLY need to lay off your high horse....funny thing is we NEVER see you complaining about M$ and their BS? How about this one for starters
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MS selling old consoles as 'new'
French website logic-sunrise who is usually pretty clued up on these things indicates that Microsoft's new 199 Euro's Xbox 360 packs with 2 games and 2 wireless controllers are in fact OLD machines. After opening 10 of them, they found that the machines have been converted to new and all have non-falcon motherboards, old Hitachi 47 or Samsung MS25 drives and the repair center sticker on them. They suggest that you do not buy these packs and if you want a brand new machine, then fork out 199 Euro's for the arcade pack or 269 Euro's for the premium pack.
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15. May 2008 @ 13:34 |
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@ Oner
i agree m$ are just as bad and anti-consumer but this is a ps3 news article, there are rarely any m$ stories in the news section and if there was i'd jump all over ANY anti-consumer behaviour.
sony, because are part of so many anti consumer organisations are a larger target than m$, apple, starforce, ect, but they all repeatedly show their ethics in regards to consumers and this needs to be pointed out to ppl and not buried under a cloak of public relations spin.
Microsoft may implement copyright cops into every Zune
did afterdawn run a story about the m$ DRM'ed music servers being switched off?
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15. May 2008 @ 13:42 |
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I actually followed some of your "proof" and found that it is just more BS, specifically your link about Sony "screwing" customers even says
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Although to be fair, the above Sony screw might not have been Sony itself screwing a customer, but rather some screwball retailer drilling down on Sony's behalf.
And on that note I will add this, from this point forward if you cannot keep on TOPIC, continue to post OFF TOPIC links that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic at hand or links to unproven information/misinformation & cannot adhere to these warnings and other forum rules (specifically this one below)
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Zero tolerance for fanboy flame starters!
These forums are for (insert company name) fans so anyone that comes here trashing (insert company name) or it's fans will be dealt with very harshly. I'm sick of these stupid fights and back talking me about it isn't a good idea.
you can be temp banned without ANY further warnings (you have had enough) or permanently banned.
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nobrainer
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15. May 2008 @ 14:00 |
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the screw was an actual part listed on the sony australian web site but was removed after the story broke on digg and shows the mark up of products to the end user.
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=35805
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Okay that was way too much wasted google-fu time.
Part is here:
https://servicesplus.us.sony.biz/Par...px?stype=parts
Actual product is here:
http://www.sony.com.au/catalog/product.jsp?id=XS8303
Why on earth there is a screw that expensive for a speaker I have no idea. Just another reason to hate Sony I guess.
i was showing anti consumer behaviour which was my point on how sony have been able to reduce the cost of the ps3 from the removal of hardware charging a premium for larger hard drives when in actual fact they cost less than a few dollars between the sizes, to foxconn making the hardware as they do for nintendo, m$, apple, gigabyte, ati, nvidia, ect, but as i stated the reasons behind news articles also need to be explored not just the press releases by public relations staff that make a living out of cherry picking.
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@ nobrainer
It's called economics, get over it. And by trying to manipulate information you are part of the problem.
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16. May 2008 @ 09:45 |
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Sony blah blah blah. We need MORE GAMES and like nobrainer says quit trying to pass off all these old games as something special, they had their day already and they're not worth 10 bucks. What good is a kick ass console that only has mediocre games?
I haven't played a game on mine in weeks. The only thing I've been using mine for is playing bootleg Doctor Who videos I download from isohunt because I'm too impatient too wait for them to play here in the US. Maybe I'll just trade it in on one of those popcorn things.
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16. May 2008 @ 11:19 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
@ nobrainer
It's called economics, get over it. And by trying to manipulate information you are part of the problem.
Bravo
nobrainer doesn't "get it"
Pro-profit does not equate to "anti-consumer"
Nothing could be more anti-consumer than if companies like Sony dropped their prices to cost to eliminate profit, which would result in unprofitable companies that would shutter their doors - leaving only one or no companies left standing (no consumer choices.) There's nothing more anti-consumer than to incessantly rail against companies like nobrainer does. Without choices (INCLUDING Sony) the consumer would be much more worse off.
Your money is your "vote" in economics. Buy what you like. The ones that perform well enough to earn consumers "votes" will survive. And for consumers to have the best/most choices, the most must survive as possible.
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16. May 2008 @ 17:10 |
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You all are the ones not to get it apathy leads the industry if consumers do not care the industry dosent have to care and everything becomes fodder for the monolithic machine to make more fodder.
I came to a line of thought in my BS review.
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You are probably wondering why bother nitpicking it?s a ?good enough? game, you forget humans are lazy and apathetic, if you don?t keep the game industry on its toes it will make more crap fests because it can get away with it and then charge you more for them, the more the people do not care about quality the more the industries and governments will take advantage of the people, those willing to give up liberty for safety deserve neither, the same can be said for quality in media, those willing to give up quality for overpriced under delivering products deserve neither entertainment or their money.
By all means buy what you like but remember what you buy and how you buy it dose matter.
I hope sony drops the PS3 100$ in 20 months that will get the ball rolling on it, its stil 50/50 if the industry will move to the WII or maintain a stuperiority complex with graphics...
BTW whats MS/sonys current debt? it was 3B on the PS3 MS was abotu 3-4B 20ish months ago...
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16. May 2008 @ 18:21 |
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Originally posted by TSRSteve:
Sony blah blah blah. We need MORE GAMES and like nobrainer says quit trying to pass off all these old games as something special, they had their day already and they're not worth 10 bucks. What good is a kick ass console that only has mediocre games?
I haven't played a game on mine in weeks. The only thing I've been using mine for is playing bootleg Doctor Who videos I download from isohunt because I'm too impatient too wait for them to play here in the US. Maybe I'll just trade it in on one of those popcorn things.
I find those "need more games" comments for ps3 rather old. It has had many games been put on the market recently and has plenty more to follow.
But if you continue to complain can i just ask...what games would you like...
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Originally posted by TSRSteve:
Sony blah blah blah. We need MORE GAMES and like nobrainer says quit trying to pass off all these old games as something special, they had their day already and they're not worth 10 bucks. What good is a kick ass console that only has mediocre games?
I haven't played a game on mine in weeks. The only thing I've been using mine for is playing bootleg Doctor Who videos I download from isohunt because I'm too impatient too wait for them to play here in the US. Maybe I'll just trade it in on one of those popcorn things.
I find those "need more games" comments for ps3 rather old. It has had many games been put on the market recently and has plenty more to follow.
But if you continue to complain can i just ask...what games would you like...
it has games...mostly mediocre casual stuff with a handful of titles that are worth while...like the WII :P
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17. May 2008 @ 10:39 |
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Originally posted by TSRSteve:
Sony blah blah blah. We need MORE GAMES and like nobrainer says quit trying to pass off all these old games as something special, they had their day already and they're not worth 10 bucks. What good is a kick ass console that only has mediocre games?
I haven't played a game on mine in weeks. The only thing I've been using mine for is playing bootleg Doctor Who videos I download from isohunt because I'm too impatient too wait for them to play here in the US. Maybe I'll just trade it in on one of those popcorn things.
I find those "need more games" comments for ps3 rather old. It has had many games been put on the market recently and has plenty more to follow.
But if you continue to complain can i just ask...what games would you like...
it has games...mostly mediocre casual stuff with a handful of titles that are worth while...like the WII :P
The only one's I'd describe as that would be the PSN downloadable games.
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17. May 2008 @ 20:46 |
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Originally posted by TSRSteve:
Sony blah blah blah. We need MORE GAMES and like nobrainer says quit trying to pass off all these old games as something special, they had their day already and they're not worth 10 bucks. What good is a kick ass console that only has mediocre games?
I haven't played a game on mine in weeks. The only thing I've been using mine for is playing bootleg Doctor Who videos I download from isohunt because I'm too impatient too wait for them to play here in the US. Maybe I'll just trade it in on one of those popcorn things.
I find those "need more games" comments for ps3 rather old. It has had many games been put on the market recently and has plenty more to follow.
But if you continue to complain can i just ask...what games would you like...
it has games...mostly mediocre casual stuff with a handful of titles that are worth while...like the WII :P
The only one's I'd describe as that would be the PSN downloadable games.
once you lower 90% of games down 1-3 points a lot of "average" starts coming out of the woodwork, 7s the new average for gaming don't cha know :P
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