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Blu-ray to outsell DVD by 2011, says Sony Pictures
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article published on 2 August, 2008
Citing the latest market reports available, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment Asia Pacific vice president Tim Meade has confided that the company believes sales of Blu-ray Discs will beat out that of standard definition DVDs by the year 2011.
According to the market reports, global sales value of BD movies will rise from 9 percent at the end of 2007 to about 25 percent of all market share ... [ read the full article ]
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juankerr
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3. August 2008 @ 08:18 |
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Originally posted by vurbal:
Regardless of that my questions stand. What period of last year, was he talking about that Blu-ray accounted for 9% of home video sales?
The 9% number for last year is obviously flat-out wrong or a misquote. Since April of this year, Nielsen's tracking of the weekely sales numbers have shown Bluray taking 5 - 12% of DVD of the Top 20 titles.
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=34675&page=137
There is no way BluRay could have taken 9% last year even if you combined it with HD DVD's numbers.
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3. August 2008 @ 08:26 |
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didn't they predict flying cars and hover boards by 2010?
personally i predict that electric and gas will escalate to prices that are virtually unreachable by most people other than the super rich and the start of this was British gas rising costs last week by 35%, food is going to become a luxury item other than milk and bread that will cost £10 a loaf/pint. As the oil fails to meet demand how are we going to feed the 5.7 billion already on the planet which is rising at an alarming rate each year, and will be around 10billion by 2012, we will frequently be having shut downs of the power grids because of the shortages of oil.
hey but regardless of the world crisis, sony will sell blu-ray's. Tim Meade is a complete tool trying to encourage ppl to purchase the format so sony can sit back and reap the benefits of all their patents.
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3. August 2008 @ 09:00 |
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Im not sure if it will happen that fast. I Consider myself to be in the minority of most of the people I know. Where Im an HD junkie, I have an SD TV upstairs and an HD TV downstairs, with a Dish DVR on each. I will only record HD content on the one downstairs, then I will watch and erase. Now I have about 600 or so movies on SD and about 65 or so on Blu-Ray my goal is to have 100 or more by years end. I will slowly replace my collection with all Blu. Like I said im an HD junkie. All I buy now is Blu-Ray for movies & TV shows unless the TV show is not out on Blu then I will buy the SD version. As far as downloading HD content goes I would rather have the physical disk. My Xbox live has downloadable movies but if you watch it and want to keep it sooner of later your hard drive will fill up. I myself won't be going the download way ever if possible.
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3. August 2008 @ 17:18 |
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As for having a PS3 as a primary player............well.............if history is any sign of things to come then, like the PS2, the PS3 will break, bust, skip, misread and flat out stop reading all in all. GOD love the PS2, BUT IT WAS GARBAGE!!!
I have had my PS2 since 2002 and although it has been dropped a couple times and gets used almost daily, it still works like a charm, and i have never even needed to clean the lens.
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didn't they predict flying cars and hover boards by 2010?
It was by 2015, and I think that was in Back To The Future.
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5. August 2008 @ 00:41 |
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Sounds like a load of crap to me. Until Sony does something about the steep prices I'm not touching that technology.
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5. August 2008 @ 00:46 |
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As for having a PS3 as a primary player............well.............if history is any sign of things to come then, like the PS2, the PS3 will break, bust, skip, misread and flat out stop reading all in all. GOD love the PS2, BUT IT WAS GARBAGE!!!
I have had my PS2 since 2002 and although it has been dropped a couple times and gets used almost daily, it still works like a charm, and i have never even needed to clean the lens.
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didn't they predict flying cars and hover boards by 2010?
It was by 2015, and I think that was in Back To The Future.
the PS2 had about 13 revisions minus the slim drive and 2-4 of them had notable issues with the lens, the Xbox had some notable issues with over heating and the easy break oven known as the 360 needs no introduction.
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5. August 2008 @ 00:51 |
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I have a funny feeling he's talking about the period when people were getting a ps3 with a voucher for a free blu film.. and counting total units shifted, not actual priced retail shelf sales.
oooo.. look.. another sony failed media format.. http://home.claranet.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/elcaset/index.html
Just an aside, and generally agreeing with some of the comments from our self proclaimed HD addict..
The owner of our local shopping center (mall if you will) returned the last Bourne film to us because unknown to us it was a blu disk.. and if a multi-millionaire mall owner hasn't gone HD then there is very little hope for it outside those showoffs who just like to convince themselves (they can't convince us.. we have seen these things and decided the improvement, if any, isn't worth the massive expense) they are getting something better than the rest of us... Kings new clothes?
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5. August 2008 @ 10:14 |
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Cool but one problem..
If blu-ray is doing so good how come i see ton's of blu-ray movies on sale and no players on sale kinda fishy don't you think.
Not really in a big hurry to spend 400.00 for a blu-ray player.
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5. August 2008 @ 10:21 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
I have a funny feeling he's talking about the period when people were getting a ps3 with a voucher for a free blu film.. and counting total units shifted, not actual priced retail shelf sales.
I thought about that, and while I don't have the exact figures I'm not sure that would even be enough. Since I don't know for sure I'm a little hesitant to speculate. But what the hell. If Sony can twist the statistics to suit their needs its only fair to reinterpret them in a way that makes sense to me.
I'm tempted to say it's more than the giveaway discs, but let's not forget that's only one way Blu-ray was being subsidized. The manufacturing process was (and as far as I know still is) being subsidized by Sony. So maybe 9% is figured by adding the subsidy back into the retail value. Or perhaps there was a week or 2 at Christmas time that the sales of PS3s was significant enough to account for 9% in giveaways alone.
In either case I'm satisfied to simply call BS on Meade's figures unless someone at Sony decides to clarify them. At best they're a misleading and inaccurate picture of actual sales and short term sales goals. He knows perfectly well Blu-ray didn't account for 9% of consumer home video spending for any period of time last year and he can't possibly be stupid enough to believe it will account for 25% during any period this year.
To quote someone far smarter than I, "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics." You can decide for yourself which category this falls into.
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5. August 2008 @ 10:30 |
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5. August 2008 @ 20:48 |
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Funny how SONY paid MILLIONS of dollars to WARNER Bros. to be exclusively BLURAY, and that was the final blow to HD-DVD and HD movies, Sony, the cocksuckers, are now slow in getting the BLURAY format out to stores, now the rental places are wanting more money because we were FORCED to have BLURAY crammed down our throats. Can we spell MONOPOLY?
It is like payola. Racketeering of the highest sense. HD would be a nice choice oin the field. At least a competitor.
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5. August 2008 @ 22:09 |
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Originally posted by eatsushi:
For example, the newly released BDP-S350 from Sony is now $363.88 at amazon. It was briefly at $334 and was #1 on the DVD player list.
The inexpensive players are coming:
NEC Chip Will Shrink Blu-ray Players' Size, Costs
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Blu-ray players are getting big in terms of popularity -- and fortunately, they're going to get smaller in size thanks to a new chip.
NEC Electronics on Monday announced that it has fitted the major functions of Blu-ray -- including analog-to-digital conversion, HDMI output, and sound encoding/decoding -- onto one chip called the EMMA 3PF. The chip, to begin shipping September, will significantly reduce the amount of physical space required to run Blu-ray, and it will cut overall costs of Blu-ray devices as well.
The new chip also features a multicore CPU (in nerd speak, a 64-bit 655DMIPS VR5500 CPU application processor) that will improve Blu-ray players' startup and operation speeds.
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7. August 2008 @ 00:02 |
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VHS had some deep roots also. I had a major collection of Disney VHS. I was not intending to change all those over to dvd. Then, I thought about it and the life span of a dvd being so much better than tapes; I did it. Now they are going blu-ray... because it's so much better. It just seems to me that if they can show you blu-ray features on dvd...why didn't they just put it on dvd in the first place? I am just not going to change over my whole collection again so someone can come up with something else in 20 years.
PS: My grandchildren are still enjoying those VHS tapes.
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7. August 2008 @ 00:03 |
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Why is there so much ignorance and bull shit whenever a blu ray, hell any Sony article comes up on here? Seriously people.
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7. August 2008 @ 00:13 |
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
Why is there so much ignorance and bull shit whenever a blu ray, hell any Sony article comes up on here? Seriously people.
Ya BR is here to stay at least for the next 5 years, but it's hard to doubt it will replace DVD in time, in fact by 013 it should replace DVD unless something big in physical media happens..
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7. August 2008 @ 00:38 |
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The change from VHS to DVD was worth it, why cause it was a huge noticable change, SD to bruray absolutly not, especilly with the upconverted players not even worth a discussion, like I said many times before, unless your gonna buy a set 40 inch and over and even than its only a slight improvment to run bluray, and to spend all that extra mony for that small difference not worth it all.
And as far as this bluray add, yeah right I got some great bargains to offer on waterfront properties in the desert.
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7. August 2008 @ 00:43 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
The change from VHS to DVD was worth it, why cause it was a huge noticable change, SD to bruray absolutly not, especilly with the upconverted players not even worth a discussion, like I said many times before, unless your gonna buy a set 40 inch and over and even than its only a slight improvment to run bluray, and to spend all that extra mony for that small difference not worth it all.
And as far as this bluray add, yeah right I got some great bargains to offer on waterfront properties in the desert.
I am sorry but in 5 years time 1080 tvs will be about 5-6$ an inch, BR players under 100$, there is no way they will not phaze out DVD, all it will take is most of hollywood to not make films on DFVD and that will push the whole amrket to it leaving a few left overs with DVD because its cheaper to press and make.
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wetsparks
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7. August 2008 @ 00:54 |
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It is in their best interest to phase out dvd. They have pretty much all ready phased out SD TVs, they will do the same with dvd. And until we have TVs that are the size of the entire wall and the screen is part of the paint on the wall, we won't be needing something better as 1080p doesn't give you the stretched look on a big screen. I could see them trying to push DD as it gives them more profit, but people like to own the disc, not just a bock on their hard drive.
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
It is in their best interest to phase out dvd. They have pretty much all ready phased out SD TVs, they will do the same with dvd. And until we have TVs that are the size of the entire wall and the screen is part of the paint on the wall, we won't be needing something better as 1080p doesn't give you the stretched look on a big screen. I could see them trying to push DD as it gives them more profit, but people like to own the disc, not just a bock on their hard drive.
For DD to work you are going to need every house with broadband of 800KBPS or higher, without that DD just aint going to replace physical media.
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7. August 2008 @ 01:54 |
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Nope, I still disagree fellas, I dont care about what stats say anymore, I go by what I see and hear in the trenches, and that means 90% of the regulars out there are not interested in bluray, most people will not have sets over 40 inches, most people will not rebuild another dvd library for that small amount of viewing pleasure, I do not see bluray players selling under a hundred bucks anytime soon, so on and so on, sorry guys, I dont buy it, and most people wont either.
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7. August 2008 @ 02:02 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Nope, I still disagree fellas, I dont care about what stats say anymore, I go by what I see and hear in the trenches, and that means 90% of the regulars out there are not interested in bluray, most people will not have sets over 40 inches, most people will not rebuild another dvd library for that small amount of viewing pleasure, I do not see bluray players selling under a hundred bucks anytime soon, so on and so on, sorry guys, I dont buy it, and most people wont either.
In 5 years when its the only thing being sold it will be the only thing being bought.... currently there is nothing that can defeat BR at half its current price as its sold now and it will meet that price in under 3 years.
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7. August 2008 @ 02:07 |
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I know we can go on and on about this, just for the sake of a friendly argument, and I've done this before as strange as it might seem, I'm no techie far from it, but like I said I deal with what I hear and see in the trenches, that after 3 years time if we still have a forum like this, I will love to re-visit this conversation.
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7. August 2008 @ 02:12 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
I know we can go on and on about this, just for the sake of a friendly argument, and I've done this before as strange as it might seem, I'm no techie far from it, but like I said I deal with what I hear and see in the trenches, that after 3 years time if we still have a forum like this, I will love to re-visit this conversation.
Well the industry moves by its own means and is able to lead the woolie masses by price, so unless something better comes along DVD is on its way out in Tminus 5-6 years.
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7. August 2008 @ 02:35 |
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Odd then how I can go down my local high street and buy a newly manufactured VHS machine, considering those were "phased out" 5 years ago.
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