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PS3 is only 'bright spot' for Blu-ray, says report
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article published on 5 August, 2008
According to a new research report by ABI research entitled "Blu-ray: Consumer Survey Results", the PlayStation 3 is the only 'bright spot' for the Blu-ray format right now, and without it the format would be struggling "mightily" to reach any consumer acceptance.
?While you might think gamers purchase fewer movie discs than others, we didn?t see any significant evidence of that in our ... [ read the full article ]
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5. August 2008 @ 15:37 |
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Blue-ray discs are too expensive right now. The Blue-ray players cost too much. Its better to buy a PS3 compared to buying a Blue-ray player. The aricle is right if ps3 didnt play Blue Rays then that format would be struggling.
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HxCMANIAC
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5. August 2008 @ 15:53 |
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PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray won the format war. If the 360 had built in HD-DVD players, there wouldn't have been such a clear cut winner.
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5. August 2008 @ 15:53 |
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PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray won the format war. If the 360 had built in HD-DVD players, there wouldn't have been such a clear cut winner.
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5. August 2008 @ 16:06 |
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How quickly we forget...
The death of HD-DVD a bright spot for the format as well.
From day one, it was Sony's strategy to use the PS3 as a way to quickly deploy a BluRay footprint to the market.
This is favorable news, as the BluRay inclusion strategy has obviously paid off for Sony. Yet as with most BluRay/Sony news, it's been packaged as just another typical "doom and gloom" story about the BluRay format.
At least BluRay has the PS3 going for it. Otherwise, neither HD-DVD nor BluRay would have much interest at all. As the numbers point out, most are happy with standard definition and aren't ready to move to high definition regardless of format.
"Most of those polled also declared they would not upgrade simply because they do not have an HDTV and do not plan to buy one."
There it is in a nutshell.
It's an HD adoption issue, period. It's not a reflection of the BluRay format as many would like to (and obviously many would like to lead you to) believe.
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5. August 2008 @ 16:16 |
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Originally posted by HxCMANIAC:
PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray won the format war. If the 360 had built in HD-DVD players, there wouldn't have been such a clear cut winner.
That's only a half truth. The main reason that butray won was because of studio support. The extra DRM protection is what caught their eyes. And the fact that they were paid more by the butray backers. If people actually believe this research. Butray will take longer than most of the backers would like to become the #1 format. We all know that in a few days there will be another study that says butray is going much faster than DVD ever did in it's infancy. And for the blueray fan boys I don't like hddvd any better. I just don't see the use for it. The same as hdtv. I don't see the need for it. The only reason for both is to force us to buy their hardware. Weather it be a player or a tv or even the converter boxes for hdtv.
Originally posted by pirkster:
It's an HD adoption issue, period. It's not a reflection of the BluRay format as many would like to (and obviously many would like to lead you to) believe.
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5. August 2008 @ 16:20 |
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Originally posted by HxCMANIAC:
PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray won the format war. If the 360 had built in HD-DVD players, there wouldn't have been such a clear cut winner.
stop doble posting !!!!!!
and the ps2 was also a ploy by sony to promote the dvd format
the blue ray format will take off it was the same with vhs it slowly
died out after a while the studios will move to blue ray for good and then the research for the next format will begin
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5. August 2008 @ 16:32 |
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I remember the same thing with the PS2, More people got it because in the long run cheaper than a DVD player at the time.
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5. August 2008 @ 16:37 |
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the ps2 was the first dvd player in my house and the ps3 is the first blue ray player also
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5. August 2008 @ 16:43 |
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Originally posted by fergus100:
Originally posted by HxCMANIAC:
PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray won the format war. If the 360 had built in HD-DVD players, there wouldn't have been such a clear cut winner.
stop doble posting !!!!!!
and the ps2 was also a ploy by sony to promote the dvd format
the blue ray format will take off it was the same with vhs it slowly
died out after a while the studios will move to blue ray for good and then the research for the next format will begin
The site often suffers from serious lag causing browser timeouts.. hitting refresh will cause a double post.. no need to shout at somebody who is suffering a technical problem.. who made you a moderator anyways?
The ps3 is about the only thing BR disks have going for them, but people remember their experiences of using their ps2 and xbox as a dvd player and wearing it out in record time... I was advised when I bought my first xbox to buy a cheap dvd player for films as the xbox drive wasn't too keen on films... 6 years on that drive is still going strong and has never seen a film dvd ;)
The problem here is also the low adoption of HD equipment. Most people just don't have houses large enough for a 50" tv.. I don't.. my largest room is 12x9 with a fireplace and 2 doors... where can I put a screen that big? a 24" tv is large.
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5. August 2008 @ 16:46 |
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Originally posted by fergus100:
the ps2 was the first dvd player in my house and the ps3 is the first blue ray player also
same here
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5. August 2008 @ 16:52 |
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Originally posted by fergus100:
and the ps3 is the first blue ray player also
and quite possibly the last.... XD
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5. August 2008 @ 17:19 |
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Originally posted by embo22000:
Originally posted by fergus100:
the ps2 was the first dvd player in my house and the ps3 is the first blue ray player also
same here
As many others and myself included...but on topic
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PS3 is only 'bright spot' for Blu-ray, says report
Yep, with 15+ Million candle power to back it so far and ever climbing...
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5. August 2008 @ 17:28 |
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I'm not seeing the Blu-ray benefit either. Sure, it does look pristine but DVD looks great too and there are PLENTY of HD tv channels. Who really wants to replace all their DVDs with Blu-ray??
I mean.......if you are going to start buying them now.....it seems pretty evident that human nature would lead people to eventually start replacing their standard DVDs. 'F' THAT!!!!
Die Blu-ray Die. HD flash is better and holographic is a great idea too to start working on.
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5. August 2008 @ 17:34 |
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If teh Wii had a HD DVD then Blue ray would have LOST!
Imagine that scenario!
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5. August 2008 @ 17:37 |
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but but but... tendo made a games machine, not a media center.
Holographic development looks very interesting. Philips started saying stuff about it back in the late 70's.. and as they already brought us the cassette and the cd and home vcr's I have high hopes. The new developments look very promising.
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5. August 2008 @ 17:58 |
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JLB demonstrated working 3D tv in 1942.. patents were given to RCA in 1945 who then buried them.. wanker tory scumbag yank patsy Churchill !!
So what.. expense.. pure research and development is good. I was trying to sell cd players at £1500 a go when they first came out.. with only 5 titles it was a lost cause, especially against the DBX system and the quality available from the same money spent on the normal technology of the day.
the thing to really remember is this... when you paid for a cd player you plugged it into your existing equipment and (apparently) heard the improvement.. for the average home user there was a discernible improvement.. for the serious audiophile there was no difference if not a reduction in quality..
Philips have a history of making world changing developments.. yet they don't ever seem to push it down peoples throats unlike sony. They exist in their market happy to invent and pick up whatever sales they can get.. and they have done that for 80 years and more...
heres a funny historical fact.. philips -aka telefunken. made electronics for nazi Germany.. philips-aka mullard.. made electronics for the allies... see what I'm getting at... damn dutchmen ;)
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5. August 2008 @ 18:25 |
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IMO its because the general public are cheap. The general public dont care for quality of product. They dont need to see films in HD. Dvd players play films and for the general public thats all they need and want. So what incentive will there be to ever purchase a £300 HDTV and a £200 Bluray player to pay for more expensive HD films?
Anyway, thats just me and my negative opinion of the general public.
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5. August 2008 @ 18:53 |
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Can't be bothered reading links.. I guess it's because they believe in open licensing of formats so manufacturers and consumers can choose what they want.
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Originally posted by varnull:
Philips have a history of making world changing developments.. yet they don't ever seem to push it down peoples throats unlike sony. They exist in their market happy to invent and pick up whatever sales they can get
and what do Philips get for their non-aggressive policy ? what they get is usually a lot of very angry consumers like me who were suckered into buying their new technology only to see it disappear a year later through lack of promotion and studio support
- cases in point
1) Philips V2000 video tape in the early 80s
2) Philips CDV discs ( gold coloured ) in 1989-90
stupid me paid £ 500 for a Philips CDV 475 player in 1989 on unending promises of " it's the enext big thing " and " massive studio support " - only to see the whole carpet pulled from under my dimwitted feet 10 months later and the format dropped down the pan.
anything that Philips invent from now on they can shove up their arses as they don't have a clue how to promote it.- most recent case in point -
anyone bought one of the new line of Philips PCs or laptops that came out 12 months ago ? where are they now ? down the pan with most of their other new line ventures.
if i was to buy into a new technology like blu ray etc then I would want an aggessive pushy company like Sony behind it to push it and make sure it didn't die - not pussy whipped bum boys like Philips who charge the earth for their "inventions" and then go home and spend nothing on promoting it.
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hmm well since its obvious that the player prices r 2 high 4 the average joe for now ill just refer to the discs. i think another problem is of cource the ability (or rather inability) to burn BD movies onto a BD disc since the player itself has drm protection.tho this is only as far as i know. maybe you can burn BD movies but then again would you really? when 1 single layer BD disc (14$) costs as much as 50 DVD discs to burn reguler dvds..or how bout just storing data? i think that for now its more practical to buy a 500GB-1TB storage device with storage costing so low (a 1TB storage will cost u 180$ and 200$ if you want the lighter ones and again its only for people seeking alot of storage to backup files) and the fact that you can also erase data from storage devices..some would argue that the disc offers more mobility-but maybe its just me that goes for more overall storage in one unit for less money (1TB storage=180$) rather then more mobility for more money overall
(40 BD discs which are 1TB times 14$=560$)AND you either need the other place you want to load your disc on to be compatible to blueray..also genuine BD movies are way too costly..in my opinion..either both movies players and recordable disc prices drop or reign of this so called next gen format will be quite short due to the fact that obviously people are happy with the quality of DVD and due to the decaying economical state in our world
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Originally posted by blueroad:
hmm well since its obvious that the player prices r 2 high 4 the average joe for now ill just refer to the discs. i think another problem is of cource the ability (or rather inability) to burn BD movies onto a BD disc since the player itself has drm protection.tho this is only as far as i know. maybe you can burn BD movies but then again would you really? when 1 single layer BD disc (14$) costs as much as 50 DVD discs to burn reguler dvds..or how bout just storing data? i think that for now its more practical to buy a 500GB-1TB storage device with storage costing so low (a 1TB storage will cost u 180$ and 200$ if you want the lighter ones and again its only for people seeking alot of storage to backup files) and the fact that you can also erase data from storage devices..some would argue that the disc offers more mobility-but maybe its just me that goes for more overall storage in one unit for less money (1TB storage=180$) rather then more mobility for more money overall
(40 BD discs which are 1TB times 14$=560$)AND you either need the other place you want to load your disc on to be compatible to blueray..also genuine BD movies are way too costly..in my opinion..either both movies players and recordable disc prices drop or reign of this so called next gen format will be quite short due to the fact that obviously people are happy with the quality of DVD and due to the decaying economical state in our world
This is one of the big reasons that the average joe isn't buying into BD yet. Until prices go down considerably across the board on everything BD. Including hardware (players, BD rom drives, burner drives, HDTV's, and anything else involved with high definition video). BD isn't going to be as prevalent as the backers would like.
I have probably close to 2 terabyte of actual storage on my combined HDD's. The total cost was around $600. Some were even purchased before major price drops. The cost of that in BD disks would be almost double that. Hard drive storage or BD storage? What a question. I think I'll stay with hard drives for the time being. I also for got to add the cost of a Bd rom/burner or both. Which triples or quadruples the price of BD adoption.
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Originally posted by varnull:
..damn dutchmen ;)
LMAO...when i recall a few moments in the movie Austin Powers 2 movie
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5. August 2008 @ 21:12 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by varnull:
..damn dutchmen ;)
LMAO...when i recall a few moments in the movie Austin Powers 2 movie
LOL i belive the right phraze was "Bloody Dutch" but its been so long i might be wrong
neway,glad u agree with me defgod ^^
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