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TorrentPrivacy secures your BitTorrent traffic

article published on 12 August, 2008

TorrentPrivacy is a new product from the guys at Torrentreactor.net designed to keep your BitTorrent downloads and shares private. The product is a combination of an SSH tunnel tool, a pre-configured uTorrent client and remote privacy services. We'll take a quick sneak preview into how does it actually work. Installation: After registering yourself at TorrentPrivacy.com you'll be able ... [ read the full article ]

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12. August 2008 @ 08:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds great but im going to wait & heard some feed back before i get it....
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12. August 2008 @ 09:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I'll wait before I buy it for feedback.

edit : I was too impatient and decided to order a week trial lol, but they don't take debit cards! Arg.
They ought to take paypal.

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Originally posted by Mik3h:
Yeah, I'll wait before I buy it for feedback.

edit : I was too impatient and decided to order a week trial lol, but they don't take debit cards! Arg.
They ought to take paypal.

Get that Paypal plugin for your browser. I was told that it works even for places that don't except Paypal. It generates a credit number for and applies it to any purchase form. That's an option if you haven't tried that.
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12. August 2008 @ 11:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Guys,

glad that Afterdawn found our service interesting for an article. Feel free to ask me about the Torrentprivacy service.

As for Paypal it's available for 99,95 payment at the moment. Micropayments 2,95 and 9,95 will be available through paypal by the end of August. Stay tuned!

Alex,
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12. August 2008 @ 11:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok sounds great minus one issue..

If you block your isp from looking at your network address on your computer the isp will automaticly ban your account this is true not only with comcast but even with qwest and others.
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12. August 2008 @ 11:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by susieqbbb:
Ok sounds great minus one issue..

If you block your isp from looking at your network address on your computer the isp will automaticly ban your account this is true not only with comcast but even with qwest and others.
Let me correct you - you don't block your ISP from looking at your network. You just encrypt the bittorrent traffic like VPN or SSH session. ISP sees the session, but he doesn't know what's happening inside.
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12. August 2008 @ 11:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is it possible to use this on more than one computer without having to buy another rental period? I would like to think that If I buy a month, I can protect all the computers in my house with the software?
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12. August 2008 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mik3h:
Is it possible to use this on more than one computer without having to buy another rental period? I would like to think that If I buy a month, I can protect all the computers in my house with the software?
You can use it on as much computers as you want, but there is a limit to one session per user. So if you like to use it on 2 computers at one time - you have to purchase one more account.
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12. August 2008 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TPrivacy:
Originally posted by susieqbbb:
Ok sounds great minus one issue..

If you block your isp from looking at your network address on your computer the isp will automaticly ban your account this is true not only with comcast but even with qwest and others.
Let me correct you - you don't block your ISP from looking at your network. You just encrypt the bittorrent traffic like VPN or SSH session. ISP sees the session, but he doesn't know what's happening inside.
Azureus does that for free anyway.. never mind..

How does it block your IP from the tracker. Short tests have shown that our test IP is still appearing in the swarm. It does masquerade an IP as far as the modem, but outside ip remains the same.
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12. August 2008 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by TPrivacy:
Originally posted by susieqbbb:
Ok sounds great minus one issue..

If you block your isp from looking at your network address on your computer the isp will automaticly ban your account this is true not only with comcast but even with qwest and others.
Let me correct you - you don't block your ISP from looking at your network. You just encrypt the bittorrent traffic like VPN or SSH session. ISP sees the session, but he doesn't know what's happening inside.
Azureus does that for free anyway.. never mind..

How does it block your IP from the tracker. Short tests have shown that our test IP is still appearing in the swarm. It does masquerade an IP as far as the modem, but outside ip remains the same.
Please read more about Azureus features and about Torrentprivacy ones and you will realise that encryption which some bittorrent clients have is only to circumvent traffic throttling and not for security while SSH protocol has strong 128 bit encryption All data sent and received during the connection via secure SSH tunnel is extremely difficult to decrypt and read.
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12. August 2008 @ 12:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That may be.. but most isp's don't care about what you are doing. Minimal encryption is enough to deter them, you can add higher level encryption if you chose.. That wasn't actually my point anyway http://www.out-law.com/page-8515

The information about what you are downloading is sourced by spiders which scan the swarms on the trackers and collect IP's.. Those IP's are handed to the content owners who then contact the ISP to hand out the warning letters, or pass your information back leading to legal action.

We didn't see your software in any way preventing this from happening. Our IP was still displayed openly on the swarm details returned from the tracker.

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12. August 2008 @ 12:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Let me explain you more - while you're going through SSH encrypted tunnel you're relayed through one of our server where you're getting new IP.

If you existing Torrentprivacy user you can test our software: we have a feature when you're getting test torrent and then download it without/with Torrentprivacy and we will tell you the IP from what torrent was downloaded. With torrentprivacy you have another IP address.

Also I would advice you to read latest news about lawsuits to see what's happening here and do providers care about it or not:

http://www.torrentprivacy.com/index.php?mod=news

Regards for interesting discussion,
Alex.
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12. August 2008 @ 12:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK.. thanks.. will test that feature and then do another live test on a public tracker. Maybe we have something configured wrong.
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12. August 2008 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it cloaks your IP address, I can't see many private trackers being too happy with that.

edit : Saying that, I couldn't really care less what private trackers think, I share private tracker accounts with over 10+ people, so I'm not particularly bothered, and I'm sure it won't make a difference since trackers rarely enforce the account sharing rule.

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12. August 2008 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This looks like an awesome service but I just have one quick question: Any chance of this coming out for Macs?

In the meantime, can anyone suggest a comparable service or product that does work on Macs?
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12. August 2008 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wish the company luck with this idea.

I will be interested to see how this plays out in the courts once the recording companies start finding out about this. Since it will be their IPs that are logged as downloading the content, "illegal" or not. There has to be some loophole in the law that is being exploited for Torrentprivacy to risk being sued. That or they are in a country that is shielded from being sued, in which case is genius. :-)

Someone needs to read the EUA, to see if there is anything in the fine print.
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12. August 2008 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Sounds great but im going to wait & heard some feed back before i get it....
I'll probably do the same thing and wait until real feedback is available.
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12. August 2008 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm curious what country this is based in?
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12. August 2008 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im going to try this out and if its noo good ill just delete it :)
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12. August 2008 @ 18:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You should host it in some kind of remote island like torrentleech does, and like pirate bay (they have other servers apart from swedish.

I think torrentprivacy is only hosted in europe, US, and canada, I'll wait for TPrivacy to correct me though.

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12. August 2008 @ 19:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup.. our config error was on our security software blocking proxy redirects. It works as advertised once we cleared that up.

Can't connect to certain private trackers that scan for proxy connections, and the ones we could seemed to suffer about a 60% reduction in speed.... Public tracker wise.. it seems to work fine. At a price of about 50% of a newsgroup account it seems like fair value for money, but I'm a little worried about the proxy server locations being open to seizure and containing all your details logged neatly.... just like happened to Oink.
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Originally posted by varnull:
seemed to suffer about a 60% reduction in speed....
Thats alot of reduction in speed.I wonder does it linkup with Bitsoup? Thxs for the info Varnull.

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12. August 2008 @ 21:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The thing I'm worried about most is your servers being raided. I mean, fair enough you have them in 3 locations, but Europe - OinK was raided here. US - countless trackers raided here. Canada - Not much better.

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13. August 2008 @ 01:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm very interested in TorrentPrivacy, but I'm not sure if I completely believe them when they say they don't keep any logs of anything. It seems like another company that'll eventually get sued and have all their server records or whatever confiscated for the MPAA and OR RIAA which could put allot of people in even more trouble than if they never even used the program.
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13. August 2008 @ 05:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
10$ seems pretty steep when you can add the cost of a starbucks cup of coffee and head over to newsgroups.

Even if TorrentPrivacy doesn't store data, what's to keep the mpaa from raiding and logging current/future data of their own? This product would definitely make it easier for busting people in bulk and it will be on their radar if it becomes mainstream.

Just say NO to public trackers & limewire/kazzaa

No time for Leap frog!!!

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