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Samsung questions longevity of Blu-ray format
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 5 September, 2008
According to an interview posted on Pocket-lint.co.uk, Samsung believes that the Blu-ray format will only have a 5 year life span from this point out before it is replaced by either HD downloads or a completely different physical media format.
"I think it [Blu-ray] has 5 years left, I certainly wouldn't give it 10", Andy Griffiths, director of consumer electronics for Samsung UK said ... [ read the full article ]
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oappi
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5. September 2008 @ 14:55 |
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I dont know about other physical media but i dont see that many ppl who want to download +10gb:s to see movie. Also i thought more and more isp:s are making download limits like comcast did.
Other physical media i would say maybe, but it would have to be quite bit better to ppl notice any difference. Having a new media would also mean that ppl would have to buy new tv that supports that new quality and i dont think ppl are so eager to spend on new tv + whatever replaces blu-ray player. Unless samsung got some ultra hd displays at low price blu-ray is safe for 10 years.
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13thHouR
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5. September 2008 @ 15:33 |
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Current optical media's mechanics limit it way too much.
Lets get on to the next format as quickly as possible and please let Sony have nothing to do with it to thwart their plan of world dominance through propertarian formats & DRM.
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1bonehead
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5. September 2008 @ 15:40 |
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I cannot see his comments boding well for BD.
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hendrix04
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5. September 2008 @ 16:35 |
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with the emergence of 32gig and 64 gig thumb drives, I see that as a possible new media for movies. Not only would it be plug and play for everything from a PC to a possible set top box, they are no where near as fragile and much more compact compared to an optical disk. The price is the limiting factor at the moment (though for standard def they would be pretty cheap) but it is catching up (give it another 5 or 7 years).
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badkrma
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5. September 2008 @ 17:13 |
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just how many times do they think we will rebuy our collections of movies? (VHS-DVD,etc) And if we wait for a format to settle in then it seems we will be in perpetual wait. I don't have enough money or inclination to see what is the next best thing, and buy it just to have it dated within a 5 year window. And they wonder why people are showing no loyalty and respect to buy the movie that they enjoy and are opting to pirate it instead. Do we really have a choice while they keep coming up with ways to bilk us out of money every which way?.... (yeah, maybe not participate at all)
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domie
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5. September 2008 @ 17:15 |
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I remember reading in the papers when DVD first came out , both panasonic and Samsung stated that although DVD was a wonderful technological advance, it would be replaced by the end of 2002 by another totally different and even more fantastic optical disc format.
When quizzed about this, they responded that it was no reflection on any bad points about DVD - it wa just the way the modern technological world was advancing and was inevitable.
Well history shows what idiots they have at Samsung and Panasonic doesn't it , in terms of multi-media predictions ?
I have news for amateur mystic meg predictors like Andy Griffiths ( please note he is only an office worker at Samsung in the UK so he's a nobody in terms of the global company itself ) - it may well be true that the technology will exist very shortly for a much better optical disc format that could blow blu-ray and hd-dvd out of the water in terms of quality but do you seriously believe that all those cronies at MPAA , Hollywoodland, Sony , Paramount, Universal and Warner Brothers are going to even consider backing it after the amount of monet they have either heaped into original blu ray development or reinvestment after they crawled over from the HD-DVD to the Blu-Ray side ?
Think again !
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Tecbot
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5. September 2008 @ 17:30 |
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what a rediculas statement...honestly if blu-ray format comes and goes this quick who in there right mind who even look at anything these companies put out there.
Blu-ray has barely even started, a new format would be doomed especially a hd one where blu-ray isnt picking up because most people cant afford a hdtv why would a new more expensive format hitting the market make all these people who couldnt afford hdtvs before go run out and buy one now.
Honestly I should apply for a higher up exec. job at samsung doesnt seem like you need more than a grade 5 education to get on there.
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juankerr
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5. September 2008 @ 17:34 |
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5. September 2008 @ 18:17 |
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if it doesn't last 5 years, it will never become widely adopted.
that's about how much longer it's going to take blu-ray to become ubiquitous.
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5. September 2008 @ 18:49 |
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Well lets look at this statement.
(1)HD Downloads?
No ISP are killing that as well speak tryin to put a cap on Bandwidth.I'm sorry but buyer care for physical media not media locked in a box.
(2)Other Media
No there isn't any that's even close to being produce & ready to hit the open market in the next 5 to 10 years that can complete with Blu-Ray.
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5. September 2008 @ 19:47 |
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Unless there is some sort of miracle with ISPs downloadable movies will be dead before they even begin on a mass market approach.
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5. September 2008 @ 19:59 |
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Quote:
"In 2012 we will be in a true HD world. Everything from your television to your camcorder will be offering you pictures in high-definition, and we plan to offer you that HD world from all angles."
So I guess we can look forward to 1gig porn webcam downloads on P2P eh?
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5. September 2008 @ 20:23 |
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Longevity?
I laugh. There will always be a replacement given enough of a time-line.
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5. September 2008 @ 23:41 |
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"In 2012 we will be in a true HD world. Everything from your television to your camcorder will be offering you pictures in high-definition, and we plan to offer you that HD world from all angles."
By then there will be 2400p UHDTV.
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6. September 2008 @ 09:03 |
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I feel that upscaling DVD players is actually ruining sales for Blu-Ray. Upscaling DVD players give you a pretty good picture, not as good as Blu-Ray of course but its pretty damn good. I have Blu-Ray, HD DVD, and an upscaling DVD Player and I see a slight difference in the DVD and HD DVD/Blu-Ray and no difference in HD DVD/Blu-Ray.
People that want a good picture with a huge set of movies and don't want to spend $500 on a movie player (basically everyone, I got the PS3 so I didn't spend for a movie player, I spent for a gaming system ;)
Will probably go for a 1080p DVD player (or if they're insane, an HD DVD Player, which unfortunatly I did for $50 with 6 free movies)
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lynchGOP
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6. September 2008 @ 13:01 |
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FINALLY................an industry professional who agrees with what I have been saying all along.
Blu-ray is just a stop-gap measure and will probably be replaced by flash, downloads or holographic technology. Screw BD............those who buy into that obviously don't mind wasting 300+ on a player and replacing their DVD collection and are those who run out and buy into new tech blindly right away. Sign of technological stupidity in my mind
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lynchGOP
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6. September 2008 @ 13:05 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
I feel that upscaling DVD players is actually ruining sales for Blu-Ray. Upscaling DVD players give you a pretty good picture, not as good as Blu-Ray of course but its pretty damn good. I have Blu-Ray, HD DVD, and an upscaling DVD Player and I see a slight difference in the DVD and HD DVD/Blu-Ray and no difference in HD DVD/Blu-Ray.
People that want a good picture with a huge set of movies and don't want to spend $500 on a movie player (basically everyone, I got the PS3 so I didn't spend for a movie player, I spent for a gaming system ;)
Will probably go for a 1080p DVD player (or if they're insane, an HD DVD Player, which unfortunatly I did for $50 with 6 free movies)
And YOU ARE EXACTLY the type of consumer I referred to in my previous post. All 3!!!!!!!!! What a goof!
Lemme guess............you have a PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, Wii, Nintendo DS, PSP, Orig. Nintendo, Super Nintendo, NeoGeo, TurboGrafx, Sega Genesis. You probably have a 'yet-to-be-invented- 9.1 speaker system and BETA EVERYTHING. NERD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lynchGOP
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6. September 2008 @ 13:08 |
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Originally posted by sKrEwZ:
Longevity?
I laugh. There will always be a replacement given enough of a time-line.
"5 years" IS NOT 'ENOUGH' TIME. It's a very very small amount of time for a technology to die out.........especially one that had so much controversy and money invested.
Lame, meritless comment.............keep'em quiet so as not to make yourself look goofy.
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6. September 2008 @ 13:08 |
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in maybe by that time we already get new Video codec that compress more extreme than X264, audio codec that compress more extreme than OGG AoTuv.
high quality HD video with smaller file size, but very heavy to decode........
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lynchGOP
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6. September 2008 @ 13:11 |
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Originally posted by NexGen76:
Well lets look at this statement.
(1)HD Downloads?
No ISP are killing that as well speak tryin to put a cap on Bandwidth.I'm sorry but buyer care for physical media not media locked in a box.
(2)Other Media
No there isn't any that's even close to being produce & ready to hit the open market in the next 5 to 10 years that can complete with Blu-Ray.
Grammar buddy..........grammar. It's like reading from the diary of someone with down's syndrome. You speak-a English?
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SuckRaven
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6. September 2008 @ 13:42 |
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This is wonderful...If HD movies go the flash-drive route, now, instead of waiting forever to rip a movie to your HDD with a DVD, Blu-ray or HDDVD ROM or burner, you can just copy it over directly from the flash drive. And what with the advent of USB 3.0 not too far in the forseeable future, once encryptions are cracked, it should be a snap.
Quote from Extremetech.com article An Update on Standards
"The USB Implementers forum, which is creating the specification, points out that USB 3.0 will not only offer more performance, but also power efficiency, because it has no device polling and thus lower idle power requirements. Backers say you should be able to copy a 25GB HD movie in 70 seconds, provided of course, the USB device itself supports that kind of speed."
Nice... =)
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6. September 2008 @ 15:11 |
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when i bought my 46" xbr4 i spent around 3k. for me personally after spending that amount of money on a tube i think its foolish not to "invest" in blu-ray.
this decision was made easy for me as i already had the PS3. upscaled movies do not look as good as blu-ray, transformers is proof as that is my most recent purchase on BR. to get the most out of my set i think its silly not to buy into BR. transformers retailed for $24.96 at walmart with a 10$ mail-in rebate for prior DVD owners. so the price argument doesn't carry too much weight as i feel that is a reasonable price for the movie.
now do i think or suggest people should repurchase their current dvd lineup? certainly NOT! i don't but i will purchase those must have movies again which are only a few here n there and the new releases that i feel on worthy.
im looking forward to having the Dark Knight on BR come december, i believe its december that its expected release.
Blu-ray is a luxury and not for everyone. why people argue or attack those who buy into the format or its makers is beyond me!? go find something productive to do...
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lynchGOP
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6. September 2008 @ 15:24 |
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Originally posted by hade:
when i bought my 46" xbr4 i spent around 3k. for me personally after spending that amount of money on a tube i think its foolish not to "invest" in blu-ray.
this decision was made easy for me as i already had the PS3. upscaled movies do not look as good as blu-ray, transformers is proof as that is my most recent purchase on BR. to get the most out of my set i think its silly not to buy into BR. transformers retailed for $24.96 at walmart with a 10$ mail-in rebate for prior DVD owners. so the price argument doesn't carry too much weight as i feel that is a reasonable price for the movie.
now do i think or suggest people should repurchase their current dvd lineup? certainly NOT! i don't but i will purchase those must have movies again which are only a few here n there and the new releases that i feel on worthy.
im looking forward to having the Dark Knight on BR come december, i believe its december that its expected release.
Blu-ray is a luxury and not for everyone. why people argue or attack those who buy into the format or its makers is beyond me!? go find something productive to do...
Eh...........a 46" tv isn't big enough to necessitate a BD player. You may think so but what you think doesn't matter because it's just not. I watch a 55" regularly and the difference is not that big an issue between upscaled (or even regular DVDs) vs. HD. Of course, I beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Transformers is only that cheap because IT JUST IS COMING OUT and moreover............it's just coming out after being exclusvely on HD-DVD so it stands separate from other BDs.
Besides........there's PLENTY of HD programming, assuming of course people aren't foolish enough to actually CHOOSE Comcast over DirecTv. In the world of HD, that is just a head-up-you-ass decision as DirecTv has way way way more programming than Comcast (excluding Comcast's bullcrap commercials stating they have "More" because there OnDemand is shit and they offer no network HD like Nat. Geo, TBS, etc.) Unless you're watching ONLY DVDs and a total loser who's out of touch with the real world BECAUSE of watching only DVDs then BD is a relatively unwise investment.
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6. September 2008 @ 18:24 |
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Originally posted by SuckRaven:
This is wonderful...If HD movies go the flash-drive route, now, instead of waiting forever to rip a movie to your HDD with a DVD, Blu-ray or HDDVD ROM or burner, you can just copy it over directly from the flash drive.
I think the copy protection will be a bit tighter than just copying and pasting.
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6. September 2008 @ 19:07 |
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Disk based medium will go no where, its here to stay. you guys talk about oh HDD this thumb drive that. how would you market something like that as cheap as 18 dollars a movie, game or what not. you complain about pricing now. 56 dollars a Movie sound good to you guys thats about how much a 34GB jumpdrive will cost in 5 years with a movie on it
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