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The popular documentary filmmaker Michael Moore has announced that he will be exclusively releasing his latest documentary on the Web for free instead of releasing it traditionally via theaters.
The movie, set for release on September 23rd, is entitled "Slacker Uprising" and document's a 62 city tour of what Moore calls "key swing states during the 2004 U.S. presidential election" where ... [ read the full article ]
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Originally posted by gisin:
Mikey Moron is giving it away because it was such a flop: 5.6 / 10 at IMDB. Real title is Captain Mike Across America, www.imdb.com/title/tt0850669/
I can't believe there are so many idiots in computer forums who fall for his loony-left propoganda. Even F 9-11 was condemded by responsible journalists everywhere.
i think that may sum up the entire situation. well said and i'm off to investigate.
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Mikey Moron is giving it away because it was such a flop: 5.6 / 10 at IMDB. Real title is Captain Mike Across America, www.imdb.com/title/tt0850669/
Im not for or against Michael Moore, but you cant call the film a flop with only 200 voters from the Toronto Film Festival as voters.
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the Canadians health-care system is a total failure, thats why they come here to get top notch treatment!
As a Canadian I can't stop laughing when I read this stuff.
Thank you Tommy Douglas for our universal health care system. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
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don't expect the government to keep delivering your check to your hand while you sit on the porch
its NOT the government that pays it its the tax payer. remember everyone the government has no way of making money its all on the tax payers backs! and for the rich thats at a 70% plus rate!! which is plain BS. soon there will be NO entitlements for anyone NO SS NO Medicaid etc. that that day isn't to far away you can count on it. the days of goverment/taxs payers taking care of people from the cradle to the grave are over!
lol. i think that i said something like that but didn't include tax rates and all. my step-mom makes over 200K normally each year and the government gets 50%! that's crap. she works hard for her pay and it goes to fund crap that we'll never see because we (well she) works harder than any slave did! I guarantee it.
i know who pays but who delivers? yep the government delivery boy!
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You're the kind of person I'd like to slap across the face. What exactly does your step-mom do to make 200k a year. Yea if I made that kind of money I wouldn't like the government taking much either. But hell there are people that work their ass off daily. Just to make less than %25 of what she makes. I believe the more you make the more you should be taxed. But I believe it should be more than it is now. You can call me communist or socialist. I don't care. No one on this planet deserves any more anything than anyone else. Yes there should be a better distribution of wealth. The amount of people on this planet that work harder than your step-mom is astronomical. Yet the amount of people that make under 30k a year is growing. What I'm trying to say no amount of money makes anyone deserve any better than anyone else. Weather it be schooling or health care or anything else anyone can think of.
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You're the kind of person I'd like to slap across the face. What exactly does your step-mom do to make 200k a year. Yea if I made that kind of money I wouldn't like the government taking much either. But hell there are people that work their ass off daily. Just to make less than %25 of what she makes. I believe the more you make the more you should be taxed. But I believe it should be more than it is now. You can call me communist or socialist. I don't care. No one on this planet deserves any more anything than anyone else. Yes there should be a better distribution of wealth. The amount of people on this planet that work harder than your step-mom is astronomical. Yet the amount of people that make under 30k a year is growing. What I'm trying to say no amount of money makes anyone deserve any better than anyone else. Weather it be schooling or health care or anything else anyone can think of.
you sir are what anyone would call an idiot! you have NO idea how much she works. she's in the computer industry and does conversions for municipalities, hospitals, and small government offices. she works 80-100 hours a week and has for more than 2 decades.
as a matter of fact she pays for everything as she owns her own business, so that means business tax, insurance for her and my dad. my dad is a cancer survivor, quad by-pass survivor, renal carcinoma survivor, 2 intestinal surgeries, and a couple of other small surgeries. you can't imagine how much that costs to insure.
if you look at what she brings home she makes less than $25 per hour which is insane to the amount of hours she puts in. she chooses to do it so i guess it's on her.
distribution of wealth? are you serious? so you feel that if you made $1,000,000 that you would be ok with the government taking $900,000 to take care of all the other people who aren't willing to work for their money? you have to be mental!
i bet you are going to vote for Obama aren't you? well if you like Marxism or Communism then he's your man. good luck to you and God be with us that have the sense and the intelligence to believe other wise.
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Originally posted by defgod:
I believe the more you make the more you should be taxed. But I believe it should be more than it is now. You can call me communist or socialist. I don't care. No one on this planet deserves any more anything than anyone else.
so whats the top amount you should pay then buddy? 80% 90% or more? as i said if you add up everything(federal/local taxes/gas taxes/sales tax etc.) there already paying 70% plus, maybe you need to move to Iran or China and live there.McGreg08 and I will pay you're plane ticket!! What a moron!
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@defgod, your words
You're the kind of person I'd like to slap across the face. What exactly does your step-mom do to make 200k a year. Yea if I made that kind of money I wouldn't like the government taking much either. But hell there are people that work their ass off daily. Just to make less than %25 of what she makes. I believe the more you make the more you should be taxed. But I believe it should be more than it is now. You can call me communist or socialist. I don't care. No one on this planet deserves any more anything than anyone else. Yes there should be a better distribution of wealth. The amount of people on this planet that work harder than your step-mom is astronomical. Yet the amount of people that make under 30k a year is growing.
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The communists were atheists.
In the bible, New Testament, 2nd Thessalonians Ch 3 verse 10
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defgod your economic model has been tried by Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev,Mao,Castro...... all ending in miserable failure.
Today, although China has a communist government, it's economy is capitalist
Why ? because people in general are lazy and greedy. Why work your butt off and get the same rewards as a slacker ? In the final analysis, we all become slackers in a communist/socialist regime. There is no incentive to work hard.
defgod if you believe so stongly in your economic model, why not you support Zoso, Me and Mcgreg, and we leech off your hard work (you did say you wanted to see better wealth distribution) ? Sounds fair to me based on your economic model.
Anyone second or third my opinion ?
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you sir are what anyone would call an idiot! you have NO idea how much she works. she's in the computer industry and does conversions for municipalities, hospitals, and small government offices. she works 80-100 hours a week and has for more than 2 decades.
as a matter of fact she pays for everything as she owns her own business, so that means business tax, insurance for her and my dad. my dad is a cancer survivor, quad by-pass survivor, renal carcinoma survivor, 2 intestinal surgeries, and a couple of other small surgeries. you can't imagine how much that costs to insure.
if you look at what she brings home she makes less than $25 per hour which is insane to the amount of hours she puts in. she chooses to do it so i guess it's on her.
distribution of wealth? are you serious? so you feel that if you made $1,000,000 that you would be ok with the government taking $900,000 to take care of all the other people who aren't willing to work for their money? you have to be mental!
i bet you are going to vote for Obama aren't you? well if you like Marxism or Communism then he's your man. good luck to you and God be with us that have the sense and the intelligence to believe other wise.
Ok I'm not in the mood to really get into an argument with you. I didn't call you any names yet you felt like you had to do that. Ok now I do have some idea how much she works. I see she works alot of hours. I say. So what. There are people that actually work labor intensive jobs (actual physical labor). Close to the same hours she works. Ok it's not the same amount of hours but it is again physical labor. You say she brings home $25 hr. I wish. The most I made was $15 hr before taxes, insurance, and everything else. So I probably brought home around $10 hr or less. If my bring home pay was $25 hr I'd be happy.
I'm sorry about your dad. But I've got to ask what the actual dollar amount is for everything medical he has had done. It's nice to see that we have the technology to do everything that has been done for him. Now whenever it comes to this kind of topic I'm always at a kind of crossroad. Because I'm a type 1 diabetic. Been so for 24yrs now. The amount of money that I have had to spend (and my parents) for those yrs would be hard to calculate. I have to add that both of my brothers have it as well. For about the same amount of yrs. Everyone should have the ability to have the quality of life that your father and myself have been able to have. No matter what job and what their pay is.
Distribution of wealth. Yes! But not like the communist Russia/U.S.S.R. was. No I wouldn't like it if I only received one tenth of what I made. But of course that's why the rich have accountants and loopholes. I don't believe it should go to people that don't work. Unless they can't. If they are able bodied enough to work it should go towards making them capable of having a regulsr job. Weather it would mean help with housing (but would have to get a job to keep that housing) or moving them to another city (hundreds or thousands of miles away) where work is. There alot of people that are capable of working but there is no jobs for them. Or they just need a little bit of training to have a job. I think it's wrong that we went away from the old model of on the job training. So many places want people that already have experience. Which isn't so bad but wanting as many yrs as most want is. we need better forms of training and teaching. And not college at least not the way it is today.
Actually I'm not going to vote! Never have. Never will. Unless we have someone running for office that doesn't care about political correctness, or all of the other bs that we have now. Hell being a lobbyist is an actual job. A job where you try to convince congress men/women and senators to put provisions in bills and laws that are beneficial for the company/industry they represent. I've yet to see anyone run for any office that shares any of my views. weather Obama or McCain wins we do need a change. A very big change. Before this once great country begins to deteriorate any more than it has.
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defgod your economic model has been tried by Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev,Mao,Castro...... all ending in miserable failure.
Today, although China has a communist government, it's economy is capitalist
Why ? because people in general are lazy and greedy. Why work your butt off and get the same rewards as a slacker ? In the final analysis, we all become slackers in a communist/socialist regime. There is no incentive to work hard.
defgod if you believe so stongly in your economic model, why not you support Zoso, Me and Mcgreg, and we leech off your hard work (you did say you wanted to see better wealth distribution) ? Sounds fair to me based on your economic model.
Anyone second or third my opinion ?
Your only problem is you are thinking anything similar would be just the same as in the past. Not so! When the United States of America was started we learned from the past and made it better. But with our modern times and the ever growing population and growing government. It just isn't working the way it used to. Our growing government spending is also causing problems. We spend money on things and places that we should never started doing. I actually believe that Washington should be completely cleaned out and start over with everyone from top to bottom. With only a few with no decision making abilities only consulting capabilities.
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defgod your economic model has been tried by Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev,Mao,Castro...... all ending in miserable failure.
Today, although China has a communist government, it's economy is capitalist
Why ? because people in general are lazy and greedy. Why work your butt off and get the same rewards as a slacker ? In the final analysis, we all become slackers in a communist/socialist regime. There is no incentive to work hard.
defgod if you believe so stongly in your economic model, why not you support Zoso, Me and Mcgreg, and we leech off your hard work (you did say you wanted to see better wealth distribution) ? Sounds fair to me based on your economic model.
Anyone second or third my opinion ?
Your only problem is you are thinking anything similar would be just the same as in the past. Not so! When the United States of America was started we learned from the past and made it better. But with our modern times and the ever growing population and growing government. It just isn't working the way it used to. Our growing government spending is also causing problems. We spend money on things and places that we should never started doing. I actually believe that Washington should be completely cleaned out and start over with everyone from top to bottom. With only a few with no decision making abilities only consulting capabilities.
defgod your argument makes no sense as I read it. So please elaborate with full details of what you really mean by better economic distribtion.
Without better elaboration, I have to vote (second) iluvendo.
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So please elaborate with full details of what you really mean by better economic distribution.
well apparently he doesn't think 70% plus is enough. i would guess he thinks it should be 80% to 90%. if you were to tell Abraham Lincoln 200 years ago that people would be paying a 70% tax rate in the the year 2008 wonder what his reaction would be lol
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Crap!!!
Here is why.
You are trying to get people to vote and people to vote for what they feel is right..
Then give us something to vote for....
Because even the voting for the next president has become a big fat joke..
Because if they where going to fix things and repair the system which is currently totally
messed up and do there job i will then vote but i am so tired of all these stupid lies and false truth's to get young dumb people to vote.
You have to consider..
If you don't speak english or for that matter just came into the u.s.a as a legal citizen you don't know about what is going on and several party's take advantage of this.
And it is really getting old.
So you want me to vote give me someone who is not all talk and no show.
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Originally posted by defgod:
Ok I'm not in the mood to really get into an argument with you. I didn't call you any names yet you felt like you had to do that.
did i call you a name or imply that someone else would?
Originally posted by defgod:
Ok now I do have some idea how much she works. I see she works alot of hours. I say. So what. There are people that actually work labor intensive jobs (actual physical labor). Close to the same hours she works. Ok it's not the same amount of hours but it is again physical labor. You say she brings home $25 hr. I wish. The most I made was $15 hr before taxes, insurance, and everything else. So I probably brought home around $10 hr or less. If my bring home pay was $25 hr I'd be happy.
are you kidding me? it doesn't matter that she works that much? so you're telling me that you'd be happy making 1/4-1/3 of your pay and giving the rest away to lazy non-appreciative people then go ahead. i don't plan on doing that.
i see how digging a ditch and working with computers could be considered equal. both have no training involved and anyone could do it. i know a little about computers and her job is a mystery to me. she writes programs that are over 3000 lines regularly and diagnoses each system numerous times during the year to make sure they are running correctly. yep the guy that stands out on the highway holding the stop/slow sign should make $25+ an hour. BS!
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I'm sorry about your dad. But I've got to ask what the actual dollar amount is for everything medical he has had done. It's nice to see that we have the technology to do everything that has been done for him. Now whenever it comes to this kind of topic I'm always at a kind of crossroad. Because I'm a type 1 diabetic. Been so for 24yrs now. The amount of money that I have had to spend (and my parents) for those yrs would be hard to calculate. I have to add that both of my brothers have it as well. For about the same amount of yrs. Everyone should have the ability to have the quality of life that your father and myself have been able to have. No matter what job and what their pay is.
i don't know the total amount. i do know that the quad was somewhere around $50k. that's out of pocket NOT what the insurance paid. she works that hard to help the family! it pays for his insurance which is about $24k a year. cancer survivors aren't cheap. her pay also goes to the grandparents care as well. they have medicare and social security but they need help too. of course she helps me out too!
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I see she works alot of hours. I say. So what.
so looking at that quote, it pisses me off that you don't care. what is your tax rate, your profession, and have you sponged off the government your whole life? if not then why the attitude toward someone that is willing to work hard? and if we are going to take from the rich and give to the poor through re-distribution then why should anyone go to college or trade school? a FLAT rate tax would be more appropriate than the algebraic mess they use now!
if you, i, her, anyone paid 10% across the board then it would be a more equitable situation. that includes anyone that gets a paycheck in the US! big business as well. i don't know the math but it would have to be better than what's going on now.
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All wrong.
one person = one vote
one person = one tax
this means everyone pays the same TAX not tax rate.
This is true equality
So if the poorest (sorry, I mean economically challenged) can only pay ONE dollar, then we all pay only ONE dollar.
This is equality
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Originally posted by iluvendo:
All wrong.
one person = one vote
one person = one tax
this means everyone pays the same TAX not tax rate.
This is true equality
So if the poorest (sorry, I mean economically challenged) can only pay ONE dollar, then we all pay only ONE dollar.
This is equality
Iluvendo is correct
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I could only read about half way down this wacky thread. I figure only Zippy, Lawndog and a few more are not nuts. It is only a movie giveaway! The content can't be much more wacky than this thread.
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So what you are saying is those that have and make more money should have more and better things. Even large multi billion dollar corporations should have this. If you look at what you are saying. Those corporations should have the ability to grow infinitely. Or pay the executives that don't do much work at all an overly obscene amount of money. And McGregg08 are you saying that laborers (the people that the backbone of this country was built on Bridges, Roads, Schools, Skycrapers, Office buildings, Hospitals,and every other building your step-mom does her work in) should not be paid as much as her you are full of it. The mentality that the three of you have is the reason this country is falling apart. You would probably vote for McCain. The man that has seven houses but doesn't remember the man that voted with Bush %90 of the time the man that believes middle class is making under $5 million a year. You probably think the people that put all of the phone lines in or the people that build computers/servers or the people that put the power lines in or the people that build/fix roads or the people that build cars should not be paid as much as your step-mom. I mean the people that do the actual labor. Those are the people that make your daily lives easier. Those are the people that give you the ability to call someone across the world on your cell phone. Those are the people that give you the ability to drive across the nation or a few miles. Yet you say they don't deserve as much. The whole lot of you need slapped back into reality.
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defgod, no one here is preventing you from making a lot of money from hard work. So what is your problem ?
Besides, you never commented on my idea of equality
one person one vote
one person one tax
True equality. That is what you wanted ?
Also are you saying a doctor ( as MD, surgeon) is to be paid the same as a ditch digger ? Woe to you next time you get sick.
BTW, I'd rather pay more for a MD,surgeon to operate on me ,when I'm sick, than a ditch digger.
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defgod, commentary please
To my last response to yours
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If you envy others and don't make what you consider to be "enough" money, better yourself.
If you can't better yourself, you are making what you deserve. It's not "their" fault.
If you begrudge others their income, you are a warped failure and that's not their fault, either.
We had class warfare already. It left 23 million people dead.
Enough.
Communism failed.
Get over it.
Deal with it.
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Originally posted by defgod:
So what you are saying is those that have and make more money should have more and better things.
YES! why is that so difficult to accept? if it was all the same for everyone it would be boring and communism to a tee. do you really think that with communism everyone is equal? if you do then you are more naive than i am.
Originally posted by dumglob:
....McGregg08 are you saying that laborers (the people that the backbone of this country was built on Bridges, Roads, Schools, Skycrapers, Office buildings, Hospitals,and every other building your step-mom does her work in) should not be paid as much as her you are full of it.
i don't think you actually know what some of these people make. welders make in excess of $50k at most places, crane operators make more than that normally, foremen of those companies make even more than that. i think the point you are making is moot! a ditch digger is just that. i've done it, not for a living but i've done it. i had no experience and was able to do it. working on a computer isn't the same as turning it on, which i'm surprised you can do.
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The mentality that the three of you have is the reason this country is falling apart.
you sir are wrong! people like yourself are ruining this country. you feel that everyone is equal and you're wrong about that. everyone is equal in the eyes of GOD and judged accordingly. but in the eyes of society there is a class and there always has been and always will be! i'm not talking color either. i'm completely tired of that. people are people and that's the way it is. if i remember correctly we all bleed red.
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You would probably vote for McCain.
yes i would if a could. i hope that others will and the USA gets back to where it should be.
Originally posted by defgod:
You probably think the people that put all of the phone lines in or the people that build computers/servers or the people that put the power lines in or the people that build/fix roads or the people that build cars should not be paid as much as your step-mom.
DUDE IF YOU BELITTLE HER AGAIN I WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL UNTIL THEY BAN ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I mean the people that do the actual labor. Those are the people that make your daily lives easier. Those are the people that give you the ability to call someone across the world on your cell phone. Those are the people that give you the ability to drive across the nation or a few miles. Yet you say they don't deserve as much. The whole lot of you need slapped back into reality.
i have many friends that do the LABOR that you speak of and i have many times and got paid very little for it. that's the reason i want to go to college and get an education. it's what sets people apart from each other. if you were to get paid the same as a ditch digger then why go to college to be a doctor? you talk about having to work! it's not the labor you're talking about but it's work none the less. you're talking about 80-120 hours a week until they get their MD license then it's however they want to set up their schedule. the heart surgeon that took care of my dad started at 5am or earlier every day and worked until 7pm or later every day. let's get that ditch digger to switch jobs. no training or anything and i think the MD will do a little bit better. what do you think?
well as a newbie i'm sure i got in trouble for something.
sorry to the rest of the posters on this thread. i hope it works out for you.
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Applauds McGreg !!
No where is defgod replying to my posts in that he cannot disprove my facts or logic.
Sorry defgod, but you make no credible sense and you are the one that needs a serious dose of reality and compassion. And we are not going to punish you by "slapping you into realty" as you often say.
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@ McGreg08 and Bro iluvendo
Very well spoken and debated by both of you. McGreg, I am very impressed you have spoken and presented well beyond your years. Bravo.
Now, as for the underpaid backbones of society you quoted such as highway construction workers or bridge builders. Any of these professions who work jobs for most state work are paid prevailing wage. Which for laborers varies from 22.00 to 27.00 an hour or more and equipment operators from 30.00 and up depending on experience. So don't shed too many tears for those individuals. Hell, I have to inspect the work they perform and make less than they do. But that is part of it. Everything has its trade offs, those guys spend 8 to 10 months a year away from their families and I am home every night. Just like McGreg's step mom making what she does, look at the amount of time she has to spend away from her family. Nobody is forcing you to settle for less, if you don't like your situation get off your ass and change it.
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jackalguy
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9. September 2008 @ 04:03 |
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@defgod, your words
You're the kind of person I'd like to slap across the face. What exactly does your step-mom do to make 200k a year. Yea if I made that kind of money I wouldn't like the government taking much either. But hell there are people that work their ass off daily. Just to make less than %25 of what she makes. I believe the more you make the more you should be taxed. But I believe it should be more than it is now. You can call me communist or socialist. I don't care. No one on this planet deserves any more anything than anyone else. Yes there should be a better distribution of wealth. The amount of people on this planet that work harder than your step-mom is astronomical. Yet the amount of people that make under 30k a year is growing.
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What I'm trying to say no amount of money makes anyone deserve any better than anyone else
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The communists were atheists.
In the bible, New Testament, 2nd Thessalonians Ch 3 verse 10
Saint Paul states :
"For while we were with you , we gave you this charge, those who do not work should not eat either "
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Weather it be schooling or health care or anything else anyone can think of
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defgod your economic model has been tried by Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev,Mao,Castro...... all ending in miserable failure.
Today, although China has a communist government, it's economy is capitalist
Why ? because people in general are lazy and greedy. Why work your butt off and get the same rewards as a slacker ? In the final analysis, we all become slackers in a communist/socialist regime. There is no incentive to work hard.
defgod if you believe so stongly in your economic model, why not you support Zoso, Me and Mcgreg, and we leech off your hard work (you did say you wanted to see better wealth distribution) ? Sounds fair to me based on your economic model.
Anyone second or third my opinion ?
pardon my newb status, but i'm not entirely sure i understand that relevance of comparing atheism and communism, or the relevance of quoting the bible. i'm not disagreeing with your conclusions, simply saying that a book that's thousands of years old might not be the best source for current economical affairs.
i'm atheist but i'm definitely not a communist. i understand that communism sounds nice in theory, but humans are not robots and it fails when put into practice. it makes people react emotionally when somebody makes a higher salary than they do, but there's not a whole lot of other options out there. certain careers such as professional athletes do in fact make far too much, but overall salaries are determined by how pertinent or difficult a career is, thus giving people the motivation to actually do them.
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samshizze
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9. September 2008 @ 12:14 |
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Stop making horrible conspiracy movies and get on a treadmill already.
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